Bug#864615: please update version of posix standard for scripts (section 10.4)

2018-07-03 Thread Julien Cristau
On 06/15/2018 02:06 PM, Sean Whitton wrote: > Patch: > >> diff --git a/policy/ch-files.rst b/policy/ch-files.rst >> index 90ae58a..f31a3b4 100644 >> --- a/policy/ch-files.rst >> +++ b/policy/ch-files.rst >> @@ -203,9 +203,9 @@ may instead be easier to check the exit status of >> commands directly

Bug#787816: Replace FHS 2.3 by FHS 3.0 in the Policy.

2018-07-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On 07/03/2018 11:56 AM, Simon McVittie wrote: > How about the attached patch? > > Complete patch series (including non-normative) updated here: > https://salsa.debian.org/smcv/policy/merge_requests/1/diffs > Seconded. Cheers, Julien

Bug#855320: developers-reference: Please do not recommend debrsign

2018-07-04 Thread Julien Cristau
Control: tag -1 - patch On 02/16/2017 07:44 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > Package: developers-reference > Version: 3.4.18 > Severity: normal > Control: tags -1 patch > Control: affects -1 devscripts > This bug doesn't seem to actually include a patch. Cheers, Julien

Bug#685746: Seeking seconds for a patch to deal with remaining issues in this old bug

2018-07-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On 07/23/2018 04:45 AM, Sean Whitton wrote: > control: tag -1 +patch > > Hello, > > Seeking seconds: > > diff --git a/policy/ch-relationships.rst b/policy/ch-relationships.rst > index 1eaa422..03f5918 100644 > --- a/policy/ch-relationships.rst > +++ b/policy/ch-relationships.rst > @@ -228,6 +228

Bug#904248: Beginnings of a patch to add netbase to build-essential

2018-08-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On 08/04/2018 07:14 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Sean Whitton writes ("Beginnings of a patch to add netbase to > build-essential"): >> Ian also thinks that package builds should be able to access the >> information normally contained in /etc/protocols and /etc/services by >> means of the C standard li

Bug#907313: Lack of guidelines on purging conffiles in stateless packages

2018-08-26 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:41:48 +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > Package: debian-policy > > Hello, > > the policy lacks guidelines on how to treat user-provided configuration > files during configuration purging in packages for programs that follow the > "stateless" paradigm (default in `/usr`,

Re: [Pkg-rust-maintainers] Bug#913572: Shouldn't shipping broken symlinks be against policy?

2018-11-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On 11/14/18 9:07 AM, Angus Lees wrote: > Suggestions welcome - I imagine this is not a unique situation.  I think > our options are: > - no rust-gdb manpage at all > - a .so stub or symlink to gdb.1 (current situation) > - a manually-created stub manpage that just refers the reader to > gdb-doc/gdb

Bug#824495: Use of the Build-Conflicts field

2019-02-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On 2/16/19 7:08 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, February 15, 2019 08:59:41 PM Sean Whitton wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Use of the Build-Conflicts field is currently mostly optional, but Ian >> Jackson and I have been working on text for Debian Policy that would >> require its use in certain case

Bug#941803: debian-policy: dependencies on font packages

2019-11-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 09:44:25PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: > Policy section 11.8.5, point 1 says > > > If one or more of the fonts so packaged are necessary for proper > > operation of the package with which they are associated the font > > package may be Recommended; if the fonts merely provid

Bug#1027832: debian-policy: Please clarify that priority required packages are not automatically build essential

2023-01-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 22:14:10 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Hello. This is an attempt to put the basis for fixing this bug: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=837060 > > As an example, packages tzdata, mount or e2fsprogs are not build-essential > and afaik have not been for

Re: [patch] experimental and uploads to unstable

2010-12-03 Thread Julien Cristau
experimental is to use your personal web > space on people.debian.org. > > - > -When uploading to unstable a package which had bugs fixed > -in experimental, please consider using the option > --v to dpkg-buildpackage to finally get > -them closed. > - > > >

Bug#607363: developers-reference: Wrong recommendations for "forked" NMUs

2010-12-17 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 14:18:06 +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Futhermore lintian warns when using +deb60u1, and it seems to confuse the > bts a bit. See for example the version graph #603456, placing testings > nagiosgrapher/1.7.1-2+deb60u1 above unstables nagiosgrapher/1.7.1-2.1, I'

Bug#522776: C.UTF-8 in squeeze (was: Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised locale)

2011-01-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:44:56 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > This will only be done with the approval of the release team, who > I've copied in. > I don't think that's not going to happen. Try again for wheezy, and maybe you can manage not to wait until the last minute of the freeze. Cheers, Ju

Bug#522776: C.UTF-8 in squeeze (was: Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised locale)

2011-01-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:57:05 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:44:56 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > This will only be done with the approval of the release team, who > > I've copied in. > > > I don't think that's not g

Bug#613046: debian-policy: please update example in 4.9.1 (debian/rules and DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS)

2011-02-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 14:25:40 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.9.1.0 > Severity: minor > > Hey > > The example in 4.9.1 suggests to set CFLAGS in a way that completely > overrides values from dpkg-buildpackage/dpkg-buildflags[1]: > > CFLAGS = -Wall -g > > Th

Bug#613046: debian-policy: please update example in 4.9.1 (debian/rules and DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS)

2011-02-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 15:14:04 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > That said helper tools like "dh" should be free to use dpkg-buildflags > to set environment variables that ./configure and other similar calls > can inspect and use. > The usual way to pass CFLAGS to configure is as a command line a

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 22:40:52 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > From discussion on IRC earlier this evening, it looks like the most > pragmatic approach will be to get the apt and aptitude sbuild > resolvers to strip the alternatives (after arch reduction), which > will make them behave pretty much e

Bug#587377: debian-policy: Decide on arbitrary file/path names limit

2011-03-03 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 22:17:32 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > If I had to make a proposal, I'd suggest maxima of > > _XOPEN_PATH_MAX / 2 (= 512) for paths, to leave room for chroots > _XOPEN_NAME_MAX - 16 (= 239) for filenames, to leave room for > .dpkg-divert.tmp. Forget ReiserFS 3. :) >

Re: New field Package-List in .dsc

2011-03-24 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 16:25:46 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > The udeb prefix is added if Package-Type: udeb is set. > Does XC-Package-Type also work? debhelper uses /^(?:X[BC]*-)?Package-Type:\s*(.*)/ to populate the package type. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-

Bug#619284: [buildd-tools-devel] Bug#619284: ispell: FTBFS: No rule to make target `…/american-english-insane', needed by `american.xxl+.mwl'

2011-03-25 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 21:30:49 +0100, Robert Luberda wrote: > I implemented a work-around in ispell 3.3.02-3, so the bug no longer > affects ispell. But the issue still exists, and I think it's the Policy > to blame of it in the first place. Build-*Indep fields are pretty much > useless if build

Bug#620566: dpkg: "version number does not start with digit" is in contrast to policy

2011-04-03 Thread Julien Cristau
Full quoting because you didn't cc the policy list when reassigning... On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 05:03:47 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > reassign 620566 debian-policy > severity 620566 normal > tags 620566 patch > retitle 620566 Sync upstream version format with what dpkg accepts now > thanks > > O

Bug#620566: dpkg: "version number does not start with digit" is in contrast to policy

2011-04-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 20:07:57 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Julien Cristau writes: > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 05:03:47 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > >> Well, while I generally agree dpkg does not need to be as strict as > >> policy when it might make sense

Bug#621833: System user handling in packages: status of discussion

2011-06-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:00:14 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Would "lockuser" need to be in the adduser package? Given that > adduser is only priority:important, it's not guaranteed to be present > when postrm is run, so the operation could fail. Maybe passwd is a > better place for it, given th

Bug#630174: debian-policy: forbid installation into /lib64

2011-06-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 13:49:53 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Currently, section 9.1.1 relaxes the FHS requirement that /lib64 and > /usr/lib64 be used, but it doesn't prohibit installing files in that > location. However, due to the way Debian handles this (with symlinks), > bad things happen in

Bug#498300: specify that architecture-specific dependencies must have a non-empty list of architectures

2012-01-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 08:32:55 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index c1ff4b4..0f1dbf9 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -4628,7 +4628,7 @@ Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.1), exim | mail-transport-agent > Relationships may be restricted to a

Bug#661928: debian-policy: recipe for determining shlib package name

2012-03-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 18:51:10 +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Severity: wishlist > > Lintian suggests the following command to determine correct name for a shared > library package: > > objdump -p /path/to/libfoo-bar.so.1.2.3 | sed -n > -e's/^[[:space:]]*SONAME[[:space:]]

Bug#571776: document symbols

2012-03-20 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 17:26:04 -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > >These dependencies must be added to the binary > > package when it is built, since they may change > > This means packages must not hard-code library dependencies. It > also seems like good policy, but I

Bug#663762: debian-policy: default for DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=N

2012-03-25 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 23:10:46 +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Severity: wishlist > > How should packages behave if there is no explicit "parallel=N" in > DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS? I saw two different approaches: > > 1) Behave (roughly) like if parallel=1 was set. > > 2) Be cleve

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 18:01:52 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I would like to know people's feeling about this. > Seeing how you're about the only one in favour of removing the policy should, I'm not sure why you think raising it to tech-ctte will change that. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCR

Bug#662649: base-files: Request inclusion of Creative Commons licenses in /usr/share/common-licenses

2012-04-30 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 21:23:47 +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote: > reopen 662649 > reassign 662649 debian-policy > thanks > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 08:03:55PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2012, Guus Sliepen wrote: > > > > > Package: base-files > > > Version: 6.7 > > > Severity:

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between "required" and "important" priorities

2012-07-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 15:31:52 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Could someone who has the time to put together a script for this check to > see whether this is actually true? (Namely, that the only thing in > required are essential packages and their dependencies.) > As far as I can tell the follo

Bug#571776: document symbols

2012-08-18 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 14:25:12 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Okay, once more for the win. Here is the current version of the patch, > incorporating substantial improvements from Jonathan Nieder and hopefully > incorporating all the feedback in subsequent discussion. > > I'm looking for seconds

Bug#701081: debian-policy: mandate an encoding for filenames in binary packages

2013-03-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:51:45 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > tag 701081 patch > thanks > > Dear all, > > I think that it emerges from the discussion that there are good uses of > Unicode, and that somebody would need to step up and ensure that a dozen of > packages are corrected if we were to

Bug#685646: Please advise a reliable version scheme for {stable,testing}{,-security}

2013-05-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 18:01:48 -0400, David Prévot wrote: > As discussed on #d-release, the version scheme advice could be improved, > so should the distribution declared in changelog, for the testing and > {old,}stable upload (including the -security ones), in order to have > only one scheme to

Bug#685646: Correction for stable versioning, please apply

2013-05-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 20:53:28 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > Hi, > > There's been quite some confusion lately over the right version scheme for > uploads to stable(-security), and it doesn't help that the devref's advice > is not currently correct. > > Can you please apply attached patch swi

Bug#708290: Advise to use codename-security instead of stable-security

2013-05-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 22:18:09 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > Package: developers-reference > Tags: patch > > Hi, > > Attached patch updates the developer's reference to advise people to use > "wheezy-security" and the likes for security updates, not > "stable-security". > > Applied, thanks

Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:26:01 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:09:17AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > On Sun, 12 May 2013, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > > > I also added "through the interst or activate > > > directives" > > > after "When a configured package ac

Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-24 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:27:19 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Charles Plessy wrote: > > About the problem of triggers being called with Depends not satisfied, can > > you > > give more explanations or suggest some text for the warning ? Would it be > > enough to

Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-08-03 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 08:00:55 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > does the current patch (attached) address your concerns ? If yes, would > you second it ? > Sorry, I don't feel confident to second anything trigger-related. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#707183: debian-policy: Removal of the FHS exception for the /selinux directory

2013-09-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:45:48 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index 2708242..90ae9fe 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -7021,15 +7021,14 @@ Built-Using: grub2 (= 1.99-9), loadlin (= 1.6e-1) > stable release of Debian supp

Bug#741304: add FHS exception for arch-indep in /usr/lib

2014-03-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 18:39:20 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > So, I propse adding to the list of exceptions in policy section 9.1.1: > >The FHS requirement that architecture-independent application-specific >static files be located in /usr/share is relaxed to a suggestion. > >In particu

Bug#726998: Add a footnote about example.org

2014-04-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 23:53:46 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > Even example.org is not safe because registered could be possible to > add a footnote > I'm afraid I don't understand what you're trying to say above. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#765499: Patch to make policy document 32-bit uids

2015-02-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 23:38:24 +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:28:22PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Bill Allombert writes: > > > > > + 4294967294: > > > + > > > + > > > + (uid_t)(-2) == (gid_t)(-2) must > > > + not be used,

Bug#792853: debian-policy: please disallow colons in upstream_version

2015-07-24 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 13:48:14 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Severity: wishlist > > Policy §5.6.12 reads: “The may contain only alphanumerics > and the characters ‘.’ ‘+’ ‘-’ ‘:’ ‘~’ (full stop, plus, hyphen, colon, > tilde) and should start with a digit. […] if there is

Bug#679751: Lintian now detect package pointing to /home

2015-08-06 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 13:16:24 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > On Fri, 2015-07-31 at 11:34:20 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > > > Lintian now detect script creating user pointing to /home. > > > After a chat under #debian-q

Bug#794234: developers-reference: quinn-diff is gone

2015-08-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 20:47:08 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 08:12:28AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > > > I think that the mention of quinn-diff can be removed from the Developer's > > Reference. This can be done in two ways. > > > > - Remove §A.7.1 on quinn-di

Re: debian/copyright in source package

2015-08-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 11:44:10 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear Santiago and everybody, > > how about the following ? (in section 4.5) > > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -1822,12 +1822,16 @@ zope. > > Copyright: debian/copyright > > Every {+sou

Re: debian/copyright in source package

2015-08-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 18:09:16 +0200, Thorsten Alteholz wrote: > > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015, Julien Cristau wrote: > >FWIW I disagree with this change, I don't think making a new requirement > >for source packages is the way to solve NEW review workflow. > > Oh,

Re: debian/copyright in source package

2015-08-25 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 20:45:43 +0200, Thorsten Alteholz wrote: > But policy says that there "should" be such a copyright file. Violating such > a clause is at least an important bug. It's *at most* an important bug: These classifications are roughly equivalent to the bug severities _

Re: dh: Install binaries to /usr/games if Section=games

2015-09-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 22:17:33 +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > I think Debian Policy should consider relaxing the "should" in §11.11 > (btw, is that normative even when written in lowercase?). > Debian Policy doesn't use RFC's uppercase SHOULD/MUST/MAY anywhere... Cheers, Julien signature.asc

Bug#798476: debian-policy: don't require Uploaders

2015-09-09 Thread Julien Cristau
Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist Hi, for some time I've been uploading packages with Maintainer set to a mailing list and no Uploaders field. In cases where some package kind of fit within a team, but noone cares specifically about that individual package, I feel it's better than settin

Bug#798476: debian-policy: don't require Uploaders

2015-09-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 21:54:29 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 09:10:31PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > Package: debian-policy > > Severity: wishlist > > > > Hi, > > > > for some time I've been uploading packages with

Bug#798476: debian-policy: don't require Uploaders

2015-09-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 22:30:10 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 09:57:27PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 21:54:29 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 09:10:31PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:

Bug#568374: debian-policy: section "8.4 Development files" not explicit enough regarding libraryname[soversion]-dev

2015-10-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:06:50 +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest to change > > | If there are development files associated with a shared > | library, the source package needs to generate a binary > | development package named librarynamesoversion-dev, or if you > | prefer only

Re: [developers-reference] 01/01: Change ftp-master-mirror to coccia.debian.org

2015-12-24 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 23:23:22 +, Anthony Fok wrote: > This is an automated email from the git hooks/post-receive script. > > foka pushed a commit to branch master > in repository developers-reference. > > commit ab0b6f45b3eb561da0a25bb4a2f444ce0b410759 > Author: Anthony Fok > Date: Thu

Bug#816515: Disallow (< ...) and (> ...) package relations

2016-03-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 15:33:53 +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > >The relations allowed are ‘<<’, ‘<=’, ‘=’, ‘>=’ and ‘>>’ for strictly > >earlier, earlier or equal, exactly equal, later or equal and strictly > >later, respectively. The deprecated forms ‘<’ and ‘>’ were confusingly > >used to mean earl

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-07-01 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Jul 1, 2007 at 12:49:58 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > If it says "version N or later", we should of course point to the > *earliest* version to give users the choice which version they want. > I don't understand this "of course", nor do I understand how the file we point to relates to th

Bug#480551: debian-policy: part of section 11.8.6 is obsolete

2008-05-10 Thread Julien Cristau
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.7.3.0 Section 11.8.6 refers to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/, and mandates a conflict on 'xbase (<< 3.3.2.3a-2)', which is not even in oldstable. I think this should be dropped now, see attached diff against 3.7.3.0. Cheers, Julien --- policy.sgml.orig 2008-05

Re: Policy restriction to depend on font packages

2008-07-15 Thread Julien Cristau
[dropping -release from Cc] On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 15:11:44 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > ttf-opensymbol comes out of openoffice.org itself (easily checkable) and > > is needed for basic operation. You won't get any bullet in OOos lists > > withou

Bug#446712: debian-policy: document comments in debian/control

2009-02-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 18:46:54 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > dpkg has supported comments (ignoring lines starting with #) in > debian/control since 1.10.11. We should at least consider documenting > them. (Encountered while processing lintian's bug backlog.) > Hi, should this be restricted to

[PATCH] Allow comments in debian/control (bug#446712)

2009-02-16 Thread Julien Cristau
--- I'm not sure if this is the best place to put this information, so suggestions are welcome. policy.sgml |6 ++ 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 36f51aa..ba224f0 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -2446,6 +2446,1

Bug#446712: [PATCH] Allow comments in debian/control (bug#446712)

2009-02-25 Thread Julien Cristau
meh. forgot to actually send this to the bug. Cheers, Julien On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 18:54 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > --- > I'm not sure if this is the best place to put this information, so > suggestions are welcome. > > > policy.sgml |6 ++ > 1 files c

Bug#446712: [PATCH] Allow comments in debian/control (bug#446712)

2009-03-01 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 22:07:36 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Julien Cristau writes: > > > meh. forgot to actually send this to the bug. > > Thank you! > > It occurred to me to check behavior with multiline fields as well. Here's > a slightly modified vers

Re: Policy 3.8.1

2009-03-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 17:14:20 +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > But in this manner there is a risk of unneeded upload, in order to > increase policy version or to remove warning from lintian about old policy. > I think to much upload could confuse also the developers. > If the only reason fo

Re: BDF Considered Harmful?

2009-03-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 12:15 +0100, Richard Atterer wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 01:07:56AM -0700, Paul Hardy wrote: > > However, the original BDF version can contain ASCII comments that are > > not preserved in the PCF version. These comments often contain > > information such as author, copyr

Bug#519941: 10.2 Libraries recommends use of /etc/ld.so.conf instead of /etc/ld.so.conf.d

2009-03-17 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 07:52 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > This recommendation needs to be elminated entirely. It is *not* ok for > packages that provide libraries to stick extra linker paths in the global > configuration, whether by modifying ld.so.conf or by adding to > /etc/ld.so.conf.d. Eithe

Bug#206684: mandatory use of debconf for user prompting a release goal for squeeze

2009-03-20 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 12:27 +1300, Andrew McMillan wrote: > Package maintainer scripts may prompt the user if necessary. > Prompting must be done by communicating through a program, such > as debconf, which conforms to the Debian Configuration > Management Specificat

Bug#206684: mandatory use of debconf for user prompting a release goal for squeeze

2009-03-20 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 10:27 +1300, Andrew McMillan wrote: > That seems to be accepted by everyone, so I've pushed it to policy now. > > I hope that's the right thing... Please tell me if I've done something > the wrong way, or whatever. It looks like you've modified the 3.8.1.0 changelog entry i

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-01 Thread Julien Cristau
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.1.0 Severity: normal Tags: patch I don't know whether to remove just this part, or everything relating to X11R6. Opinions? Cheers, Julien From: Julien Cristau Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:29:23 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 1/3] Drop requirement to pre-depend o

Bug#522219: debian-policy: Remove /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 FHS exception

2009-04-01 Thread Julien Cristau
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.1.0 Severity: normal Tags: patch There's no reason for this to stay. From: Julien Cristau Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:38:45 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 3/3] Remove /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 FHS exception --- policy.sgml |7 --- 1 files changed, 0 inser

Bug#522218: debian-policy: Discourage installation of Speedo fonts

2009-04-01 Thread Julien Cristau
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.1.0 Severity: normal Tags: patch The Speedo directory isn't part of the default X font path for a long time, and libxfont in lenny disabled support for speedo fonts. From: Julien Cristau Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:36:30 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 2/3] Disco

Bug#522364: debian-policy: Remove obsolete /var/mail transition requirement

2009-04-03 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 21:57 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index 975df94..a5c9d13 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -5697,12 +5697,6 @@ rmdir /usr/local/share/emacs 2>/dev/null || true > by any particular mail agents. The use of th

Bug#522218: debian-policy: Discourage installation of Speedo fonts

2009-04-03 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 13:25 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 11:49:32AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Julien Cristau writes: > > > > > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > > > index 5cd463e..9091412 100644 > > >

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-06 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 19:57 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I was about to apply this, but then realized that it leaves the following, > which seems a bit odd and self-contradictory: > > > The installation of files into subdirectories > of /usr/X11R6/include/X11/ an

Re: does /var/games have to be deleted on purge? (if it's empty..)

2009-04-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 02:30 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Or is RC too much? Or fine now? Anything > normal would be too much IMO. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: does /var/games have to be deleted on purge? (if it's empty..)

2009-04-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 14:17 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Mittwoch, 8. April 2009, Paul Wise wrote: > > How about this: > > > > Game a gets installed and ships /var/games > > Game b gets installed and ships /var/games > > Game a gets purged and removes /var/games > > User starts game b

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 05:08:38 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > how about: > > The installation of files into subdirectories of > /usr/X11R6/is now prohibited. Include files > should be installed into /usr/include/X11/. For > files tha

Bug#525151: Clarify format of source package name

2009-04-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 16:40:34 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index 0140043..144cbfb 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -2588,6 +2588,14 @@ Package: libc6 > package control file when the source package has the same > nam

Re: Policy about distribution field in control files

2009-04-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 16:07:27 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > > Hi, > > I noticed that Debian policy (§5.6.14) states that the control field > distribution may contain several distributions (comma-separated). But the space-separated, actually. > Debien Developers Reference (§5.5) states that “

Bug#530687: debian-policy: Please provide policy for architecture wildcards

2009-05-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 18:50:42 -0400, Andres Mejia wrote: > @@ -2723,7 +2725,8 @@ Package: libc6 > In the main debian/control file in the source > package, or in the source package control file > .dsc, one may specify a list of architectures > - separated by

Bug#530687: debian-policy: Please provide policy for architecture wildcards

2009-05-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 07:30:57 -0400, Andres Mejia wrote: > On Wednesday 27 May 2009 06:51:58 Julien Cristau wrote: > > This makes it sound like you can't mix architecture names and > > architecture wildcards. Is that on purpose? > > Current policy has this wording a

Bug#490605: debian-policy: please discourage the usage of echo -n, and echo in general

2009-06-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:53:19 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 04 Jun 2009, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > > It is not an alternative: > > - It is ugly > > - it is not on root partition > > > > The ugly part it is IMHO the most important part. > > Ugliness is relative. I have no problem wi

Bug#534408: debian-policy: Installed-Size is defined as "kilobytes" but dpkg-gencontrol fills it in with kibibytes

2009-06-24 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 19:13:23 -0700, Martin Dorey wrote: > debian-policy appears to define Installed-Size's units as thousands of bytes: > > > 5.6.20 Installed-Size > > This field appears in the control files of binary packages, and in the > > Packages files. It gives the total amount of disk

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:20:51 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > As far as branches are concerned, the default branch should point to > the debian packaging branch and that's it. And how do you do that, when the debian and upstream repos are the same? That seems to be a fairly arbitrary limitatio

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 23:54:13 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Julien Cristau writes: > > > Ping Russ? :) > > Sorry about the long delay on the rewrite of the X installation > directory section. Here's proposed rewording for the whole section. > How does this

Bug#534408: debian-policy: Installed-Size is defined as "kilobytes" but dpkg-gencontrol fills it in with kibibytes

2009-07-13 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 13:29:48 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > I formally object to the part '(in other words, the size in kibibytes)'. > > (I believe this change is not informative and only serve the purpose of > endorsing a standard which does not meet consensus in Debian.) > +1. Cheers, Jul

Re: Proposal: Merge Package Name Parts (Sec. 5.6.1 and 5.6.7)

2009-07-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 09:57:04 -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote: > Oh. Interesting. I was (clearly) unaware of that. How recently was > this? What was the reasoning behind it? I think this is the part where you do your homework. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists

Bug#533852: debian-policy: Allow Binary field to span over multiple lines

2009-08-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 13:33:57 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Raphaël Hertzog writes: > > > In response to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=494714 I > > would like that the policy be updated to allow the Binary field in .dsc > > and .changes to span over multiple lines. > > Sorr

Bug#493007: debian-policy: Please recommend tracking translation status of l10n man pages

2009-08-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 13:37:39 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > The following wording has received one second and needs an additional > second to be committed to the next revision of Policy. Is everyone happy > with it? > > > --- a/policy.sgml > > +++ b/policy.sgml > > @@ -8885,6 +8885,15 @@ name

Bug#534408: Installed-Size wording

2009-08-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 16:02:50 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Emilio Pozuelo Monfort writes: > > Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> Sorry about the delay in dealing with this. I've now committed: > >> > >> > >> Installed-Size > >> > >> > >>This field appears in the control file

Bug#224509: Don't require a TTY during maintainer script execution

2009-08-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 19:43:29 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I think at this point, now that debconf is mandatory for all but essential > packages, removing the guarantee of a controlling terminal is > uncontroversial. This bug has been open for a while and I'd like to put > it to bed. Here's p

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 18:37:05 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > 2) These packages may just symlink > > /usr/share/doc/${package name}-${debug suffix} to > > /usr/share/doc/${package name} > > (and of course, depend on ${package name} > > 5) There m

Bug#542865: Grant an FHS exception for the multiarch library directories

2009-08-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 13:11:00 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index 0bf8253..100917d 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -5584,6 +5584,35 @@ libbar 1 bar1 (>= 1.0-1) > > > > +

Bug#542288: debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2009-09-01 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 23:38:17 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > That's unfortunate. Imagine the following scenario: > 1. Package P is released in sarge, with version 1.0-1. > 2. Package P is installed on a system S, running sarge. > 3. etch is released with P 1.0-1. > 4. A security bug is found in

Bug#542288: debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2009-09-01 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 14:06:17 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:39:40AM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 23:38:17 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > That's unfortunate. Imagine the following scenario: > > >

FHS and X manual pages

2009-09-07 Thread Julien Cristau
Hi, it's been pointed out to me that we violate FHS ever since [1] is included in Debian. The FHS says "All X Window System manual pages must have an x appended to the filename." Now there are some options. 1) add an exception in policy to allow the removal of this x suffix 2) revert this change

Re: FHS and X manual pages

2009-09-07 Thread Julien Cristau
Please don't remove the debian-x cc… On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 15:49:52 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 02:29:09PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > Hi, > > > > it's been pointed out to me that we violate FHS ever since [1] is > > incl

Bug#542865: Grant an FHS exception for the multiarch library directories

2009-09-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 20:50:30 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > + > + Applications may also use a single subdirectory under > + /usr/lib/triplet. > + Is /lib/ intentionally left out here? I don't know how likely that is, but if pe

Bug#542865: Grant an FHS exception for the multiarch library directories

2009-09-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 20:50:30 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index 0bf8253..347c0bf 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -5584,6 +5584,40 @@ libbar 1 bar1 (>= 1.0-1) > > > > +

Bug#554054: , #554077: s/ftp-master.debian.org/ftp.upload.debian.org/ etc.

2009-11-15 Thread Julien Cristau
ce.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/misc>. > The second depends on the first. > fwiw Reviewed-by: Julien Cristau Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

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