Bug#704657: debian/rules: Inconsistent required targets

2013-04-04 Thread Roger Leigh
uilds once wheezy is out to assess the scale of what percentage of the archive still needs attention. Once we're done with the transition, dpkg can then drop the autodetection logic by default. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.d

Re: Bug#701081: debian-policy: mandate an encoding for filenames in binary packages

2013-03-05 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 10:17:58AM +0100, Thomas Preud'homme wrote: > Le mardi 5 mars 2013 01:16:52, Bill Allombert a écrit : > > On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 12:06:06AM +0000, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > We have defaulted to UTF-8 locales for over a decade now. Unless > > &

Bug#701081: debian-policy: mandate an encoding for filenames in binary packages

2013-03-04 Thread Roger Leigh
ites, if we require UTF-8 across the board, such tests become unnecessary ;-) Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public

Bug#374029: Build-Depends{,-Indep} as defined is not useful and not followed

2012-08-12 Thread Roger Leigh
al seconds since the > Technical Committee has already made a judgement; rather, I'm looking for > wording review and for confirmation that I've implemented the Technical > Committee decision properly. Looks fine to me. Thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :

Bug#621833: locking system users on package removal

2012-06-30 Thread Roger Leigh
his case. > > I took this use of usermod from the discussion on debian-devel regarding > Policy bug #621833 (where it was originally suggested by Roger Leigh), > so this potentially affects quite a few packages. > > Stephan's proposed patch (below) makes me think we really

Bug#676561: debian-policy: Please clarify important restriction on use of /run

2012-06-07 Thread Roger Leigh
en better, since packagers that already made a > mistake would notice while looking over the new entries. Sure. Please find an updated patch attached which includes these changes. Thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh

Bug#676561: debian-policy: Please clarify important restriction on use of /run

2012-06-07 Thread Roger Leigh
00, 'testing'), (400, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash >From de9d15e612e6d4344032560e5d49a2dbf2368274 Mon Sep 17 00:00:

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Roger Leigh
and not pushing back hard against it is to fail to do our job properly. Requiring good practice on the part of our upstreams is part of the "price" of being distributed as part of Debian. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people

Bug#660841: debian-policy: /run not explained in FHS

2012-02-22 Thread Roger Leigh
this directory. It's in the draft version of the upcoming FHS release: http://www.linuxbase.org/betaspecs/fhs/fhs/ch03s15.html Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http:/

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Roger Leigh
ools can cope with the compression, the number of times I tab complete a less command to find it's an unreadable mess, and have to repeat that with [xx]less or some other tool is very frequent--usually several times a day. So I think there is immediate user benefit to this. Regards, Roge

Bug#542288: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2012-01-08 Thread Roger Leigh
st use the date). Given that this is part of a version number, why aren't we just using +d6.0 and letting dpkg handle it? Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux?

Re: Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2012-01-02 Thread Roger Leigh
t liberty to migrate individually should they wish to add the appropriate initscripts dependency and switch their paths over. But I would generally just advise waiting for wheezy+1 and switching the paths without the dependency--the files will already be present in both locations at that point.

Re: Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-11-29 Thread Roger Leigh
to merge them should you choose to; this does not imply that it would be a sensible default--it's not. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.ne

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-11-28 Thread Roger Leigh
r distributors pick it up. It has been mentioned in the context of the FHS, but will not be included at present, though /run and /run/lock will be. There are other non-standard uses of /run such as /run/user by systemd which should probably also not be included at this point, and which lik

Bug#218893: Proposal: Build-Features [Fix for the build-arch problem]

2011-07-09 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:20:31AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 12:25:37AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 12:18:53AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 02:41:11PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > &g

Bug#218893: Proposal: Build-Features [Fix for the build-arch problem]

2011-06-30 Thread Roger Leigh
that the proposals being discussed here are basically about how best to realise the goal of having build-arch and build-indep implemented; I thought that the goal itself was relatively uncontroversial, but the means of achieving it were still under discussion. The lintian text can easily be chang

Bug#621833: System user handling in packages: status of discussion

2011-06-11 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 06:33:04PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:00:14 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > Would "lockuser" need to be in the adduser package? Given that > > adduser is only priority:important, it's not guaranteed to be p

Bug#621833: System user handling in packages: status of discussion

2011-06-10 Thread Roger Leigh
is run, so the operation could fail. Maybe passwd is a better place for it, given that it contains useradd etc., and is priority:required. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on G

Bug#604397: debian-policy: require build-arch and build-indep targets

2011-06-06 Thread Roger Leigh
s work for maintainers (less packages needing NMUing with the build feature added). Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#604397: Request for TC to rule on a course of action for supporting build-arch

2011-06-06 Thread Roger Leigh
Build-Depends-Arch/Build-Conflicts-Arch in sbuild is a trivial change which could be done today.) This would be nice because there's then a 1:1 correspondence between build, build-arch, build-indep and the Build-Depends, Build-Depends-Arch and Build-Depends-Indep fields, respectively (and the sa

Bug#604397: debian-policy: require build-arch and build-indep targets

2011-06-06 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:25:11PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 05:09:33PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > > Just for the record, I've implemented support in debhelper's dh > > > > command in #604563. Once applied, this will automati

Bug#604397: debian-policy: require build-arch and build-indep targets

2011-06-03 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 09:01:31PM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Roger Leigh wrote: > [out of order for convenience] > > > Just for the record, I've implemented support in debhelper's dh > > command in #604563. Once applied, this will automatically add suppo

Bug#621833: System users: removing them

2011-05-29 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:09:40PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > (culled cc list of a few people I know read -devel) > Roger Leigh wrote: > > > Given the need to consider unlocking as well as locking, I'm not sure > > it's worth adding special support to deluser

Bug#621833: System users: removing them

2011-05-29 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:04:35PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 03:06:00PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Steve Langasek writes ("Re: Bug#621833: System users: removing them"): > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:31:47PM +0200, sean finney wrote: &g

Bug#621833: System users: removing them

2011-05-29 Thread Roger Leigh
unlock/lock to the maintainer scripts, dropping use of deluser entirely. I do agree that a --local option would be a valuable and useful addition to the adduser and deluser etc. tools, even if currently a no-op. However, due to the above I don't think that adding special-case u

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-05-28 Thread Roger Leigh
list as an optional feature (this subdirectory has not yet been adopted more widely). If this addition is not useful (it's not a top-level dir), I can remove it. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rl

Re: Clarification of §10.5 symlink wording needed

2011-05-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:14:16AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Roger Leigh writes: > > The "solution" to the chroot problem is to always manipulate the chroot > via chroot, which ensures that the view of everything in the chroot is > consistent. But I realize that

Bug#620870: FHS update regarding this issue

2011-05-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 09:09:34PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 09:48:53PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > How far are we in /run support in sid ? > > initramfs-tools: Changes are now all in git; just waiting for the > upload. > initscripts: Waiti

Bug#620870: FHS update regarding this issue

2011-05-12 Thread Roger Leigh
hanges are now all in git; just waiting for the upload. initscripts: Waiting on initramfs-tools, but otherwise ready to go bar a couple of patches I have in git (http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sysvinit;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/run4) So basically everything is done for getting /run worki

Re: Clarification of §10.5 symlink wording needed

2011-05-11 Thread Roger Leigh
means to rearrange the filesystem now--and this applies to all the platforms we support, not just Linux. From the POV of packaging, I'd like symlinks to point to a specific place, without ambiguity, and in the context of chroots, a relative link is unambiguous whereas an absolute link changes

Clarification of §10.5 symlink wording needed

2011-05-10 Thread Roger Leigh
ar/run/foo points to .../chroot/run/foo rather than /run/foo (from the POV of the host system). But are otherwise more complex and you could hit the max symlink limit. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rle

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-04-05 Thread Roger Leigh
ystem). Note that the use of a temporary filesystem is a "should", so does permit systems to implement /run using a normal filesystem. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printin

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-04-05 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 02:55:21PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Hi, > > Roger Leigh (04/04/2011): > > + should not be preserved across reboot. > > “reboots” if you want to stay consistent with the hunk below. > > > + contents are not p

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-04-04 Thread Roger Leigh
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.1.0 Severity: normal Hi, Please could you add /run as an exception to the FHS? I've attached a patch with proposed text. References: #620191 - initscripts support for /run #620157 - base-files provides /run http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fed

Re: 8bit characters in files in Debian packages

2011-04-01 Thread Roger Leigh
mbiguous, so could be made a fatal error to prevent such packages being uploaded. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-03-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 01:07:19AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Roger Leigh writes: > > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 05:08:18PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 0

Re: re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-28 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 05:08:18PM +0000, Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 07:42:32PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > > > I disagree here. > > > Alternatives in build-* relationships *a

Bug#614807: debian-policy: Please document autobuilder-imposed build-dependency alternative restrictions

2011-02-26 Thread Roger Leigh
ed through other alternatives. Note this isn't yet in use on the buildds, but it is present in the unstable sbuild. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux

Bug#614807: debian-policy: Please document autobuilder-imposed build-dependency alternative restrictions

2011-02-26 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 02:21:13PM +0100, Sean Finney wrote: > Hi all, > > > On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 18:22 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > Feel free to phrase it better, or even remove that part, if it's > > unclear or not too helpful. > > How about the att

Bug#614807: debian-policy: Please document autobuilder-imposed build-dependency alternative restrictions

2011-02-24 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:09:09PM +0100, Sean Finney wrote: > On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 18:22 +0000, Roger Leigh wrote: > > Yes, this might need rewording. Some people claimed it was useful for > > backports, so if the backports buildds are using the aptitude resolver, > > they

Bug#614807: debian-policy: Please document autobuilder-imposed build-dependency alternative restrictions

2011-02-23 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 05:52:27PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Hi, > > Roger Leigh (23/02/2011): > > From: Roger Leigh > > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:14:56 + > > Subject: [PATCH] Document restrictions on alternative build dependencies > > > > The D

Bug#614807: debian-policy: Please document autobuilder-imposed build-dependency alternative restrictions

2011-02-23 Thread Roger Leigh
tion >From d0737d445da8bc5e860400a73d6990f542e5ac47 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Roger Leigh Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:14:56 + Subject: [PATCH] Document restrictions on alternative build dependencies The Debian autobuilders only make use of the first alternative in a set of alternatives

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:21:24PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 06:49:21PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Roger Leigh writes ("Re: re buildd's resolver and package's build deps"): > > > I agree that these do serve a useful purpose

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:13:19PM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:08:18 +0000, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > · Standard alternative use in the form "concrete|virtual", as used for > > normal deps on virtual packages. Is this sensible? > > ·

Re: re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 05:21:17PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Roger Leigh writes ("Re: re buildd's resolver and package's build deps"): > > Taking one of php5's dependencies as an example: > > > > libdb-dev (>= 4.7) | libdb4.8-dev | libdb

Re: re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 07:42:32PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Hi everyone, Roger, > > Roger Leigh has filed a few bug reports related to how the buildd's resolver > (either internal or any of the new ones: apt{,itude}) and I'm not sure I > quiet agree. > Let'

Bug#522776: C.UTF-8 in squeeze

2011-01-10 Thread Roger Leigh
ding it in a package separate from the locales package or are there other issues? Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-

Bug#522776: C.UTF-8 in squeeze

2011-01-10 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 08:44:10AM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Roger Leigh a écrit : > > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 09:14:47PM -0500, David Holland wrote: > >> Can this please get done (adding a C.UTF-8 locale)? It is absolutely > >> required for writing shell scripts

Bug#522776: C.UTF-8 in squeeze (was: Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised locale)

2011-01-08 Thread Roger Leigh
nt from Aurelien Jarno: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522776#342 This will only be done with the approval of the release team, who I've copied in. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/

Bug#604397: debian-policy: build-arch and build-indep targets are required

2010-11-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:45:28AM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Roger Leigh , 2010-11-21, 21:38: >> I'd like to propose that build-arch and build-indep be changed in >> Policy from "may be provided" to "must be provided" in preparation >> for ena

Bug#604397: debian-policy: build-arch and build-indep targets are required

2010-11-21 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 09:38:31PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > There's some history to this in #374029. Most of the information > about sbuild/buildds in there is outdated and incorrect. The only > sticking point to using Build-Depends-Indep and autobuilding > arch-all packag

Bug#604397: debian-policy: build-arch and build-indep targets are required

2010-11-21 Thread Roger Leigh
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.1.0 Severity: normal Tags: patch Hi, As a goal for wheezy, I'd like the Build-Depends and Build-Depends-Indep fields to be fully functional and usable for autobuilding. Currently, Build-Depends-Indep isn't useful, and only Build-Depends is used in practice on

Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2010-09-03 Thread Roger Leigh
t; There were no objections to having a UTF-8 locale installed and available by default, just to it *being* the default. Taking this first small step is IMO important to do, preferably for squeeze if possible. Since it's a tiny one-liner change, this should be no trouble in getting

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On 20/05/2010 20:43, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:31:36PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Do we have any actual users of this space? I didn't see anything in Policy. Is there a central database listing the assignments? If so, where may it be found? /usr/share/doc/base-p

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On 20/05/2010 18:30, Russ Allbery wrote: Roger Leigh writes: If all current Debian systems support a 32-bit UID and GID range, then it would be great if we could amend Policy to move the reserved ranges to the end of the 32-bit range rather than being at the end of the 16-bit range. This

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-20 Thread Roger Leigh
namic 1000-4294932293: Users [65534: nobody; could be moved to 4294967294 for new installs?] 4294932294-4294962293: Reserved 4294962294-4294967293: Debian Static Reserved 4294967294: nobody [new] 4294967295: (uid_t)(-1) == (gid_t)(-1) must not be used, because it is the error return sentinel value.

Bug#541872: debian-policy: identical notation for disabled-by-user and auto-generated entries in /etc/inetd.conf

2009-08-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:33:51PM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:08:40AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote [edited]: > > Sounds good. inetd-base might be a slightly better name, since it's > > something all the inetd implementations will depen

Bug#541872: debian-policy: identical notation for disabled-by-user and auto-generated entries in /etc/inetd.conf

2009-08-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:56:29AM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > [I'm not switching to private emails as we're getting valuable feedback here] > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:34:11PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote [edited]: > > Alternatively, the xinetd format is /cur

Bug#541872: debian-policy: identical notation for disabled-by-user and auto-generated entries in /etc/inetd.conf

2009-08-18 Thread Roger Leigh
nts in /etc/inetd.d. At this point, there won't be any use of the generated file(s), but we can verify it's all working correctly. Once done, the inetds can start using the new generated configs, and then it's done. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : De

Bug#541872: debian-policy: identical notation for disabled-by-user and auto-generated entries in /etc/inetd.conf

2009-08-18 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:02:33PM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:43:47AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote [edited]: > > I would really rather we went with the proposal I put forward in this > > thread: > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-

Bug#541872: debian-policy: identical notation for disabled-by-user and auto-generated entries in /etc/inetd.conf

2009-08-17 Thread Roger Leigh
ed to get this done for Squeeze. But it's not technically difficult to do, it just needs time. The advantage of this approach is that is removes *all* of the many update-inetd bugs by throwing the whole mess into the bin. It should also allow a smooth transition, though the above example pla

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-11 Thread Roger Leigh
be /usr/lib/debug/.build-id/NN/NN.debug ^ Why the need for a hidden directory in a public location? What's wrong with /usr/lib/debug/build-id? I don't think the unnecessary obfuscation is warranted. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Rog

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-10 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 01:55:51PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Roger Leigh writes: > > > nor for keeping the packages separate from the main archive (if the size > > of the Packages file is an issue, can't they just go in a separate debug > > section/component?) >

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-10 Thread Roger Leigh
a compelling reason for using a .ddeb extension given that they are just regular .debs, nor for keeping the packages separate from the main archive (if the size of the Packages file is an issue, can't they just go in a separate debug section/component?) Regards, Roger -- .'&#x

Bug#534408: debian-policy: Installed-Size is defined as "kilobytes" but dpkg-gencontrol fills it in with kibibytes

2009-06-29 Thread Roger Leigh
2¹⁰ = 1024 To do anything else would be plain wrong, and make computer scientists look like retards for using a prefix to mean something different than what rest of the *entire planet* understands it to be. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-26 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:04:59PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:33:12PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > I often have branches for: > > - unstable > > - experimental > > - stable > > - backports > > and there may be others of course.

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Roger Leigh
it must be in the .dsc (since you need to check out a specific branch to get the files). If it can't be specified here, we end up with just the master branch, and that's wrong in many cases. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-24 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 04:38:27PM -0400, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 01:50:20PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > One additional thing I'd like to raise is the need for additional > > metadata to make better use of the VCS repository: > > >

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-24 Thread Roger Leigh
ing of patches against new releases, and against the upstream development branch for forwarding upstream. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sour

Re: Architecture Field

2009-06-23 Thread Roger Leigh
-linux architectures on the archive it might > be time to consider discussing it? I was planning on bringing this up last year, but didn't have time to persue it. I would certainly agree that migrating to linux- is beneficial and it certainly gets my vote. Regards, Roger -- .

Re: What about default-syslog [Re: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-05 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 09:07:34PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 11:52:29AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 10:36:51AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > martin f krafft wrote: > > > > [moving debian-rele...@l.d.o to Bcc, co

Re: What about default-syslog [Re: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-05 Thread Roger Leigh
mplementing a better method in dpkg itself. However, I've not seen any more about this other than that single time, and if mta-defaults is being created it looks like we are still looking for a solution. It would be great if we can have a general method for specifying distribution-wide virtual

Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-04-08 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 09:41:18AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Roger Leigh wrote: > > I wasn't aware that this level of checking was performed, though >> it does make sense. But, does it not reject non 7-bit input in the C >> locale for completeness? >>

Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-04-08 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:22:15AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Roger Leigh wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 09:24:38PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: >>> + Thorsten Glaser (Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:54:59 +): >>> >>>> Except the ton which sets LC_ALL=C

Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-04-08 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:47:00PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Roger Leigh dixit: > > >Are you sure? > > Not entirely, but I recall fgetc (or was it fgetwc?) > being affected. Ah, fgetc/fputc are specified in the standard as "byte oriented" rather than char

Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-04-07 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:01:16PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Roger Leigh dixit: > > >But, does it not reject non 7-bit input in the C > >locale for completeness? > > No, it doesn't - "we" (before my time though, I think) fought > hard for eight-

Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-04-07 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:36:20AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: I can't help but feel that your reply completely missed the purpose of what I want to do, and why. I hope the following response clears things up. > Roger Leigh wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:09:17A

Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-04-07 Thread Roger Leigh
uot;raw" I/O not be using lower level interfaces such as fread() and fwrite() rather than the "formatted" print functions which are specified to behave in a locale-dependent manner? This strikes me as bugs in the form of assumptions in the code which should be fixed, rather than a fun

Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-04-07 Thread Roger Leigh
IX locales to be UTF-8 by default as on other systems (with a C.ASCII variant if required). Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/

Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-04-07 Thread Roger Leigh
ages and so use dgettext, but this totally breaks in the C locale due to the C locale special casing in gettext. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint

Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-04-06 Thread Roger Leigh
s there any hope of fixing this? I consider this hardcoded gettext behaviour in a C locale a severe misfeature, which has caused me (as a programmer) no end of problems. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.or

Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-04-06 Thread Roger Leigh
bearable if it was also UTF-8, as well as getting rid of the current buggy behaviour if you use UTF-8-encoded sources. It's currently *the only blocker* preventing us using UTF-8 encoded sources. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http:/

Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-04-06 Thread Roger Leigh
to guarantee the presence of a particular locale ahead of time - > particularly one that isn't actually useful to end users, as C.UTF-8 would > be. Example attached of direct UTF-8 encoding in sources. Just run in a few locales such as UTF-8, ISO-8859-1 and C and check the differences in ou

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-21 Thread Roger Leigh
where a formatting screwup breaks the format. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-18 Thread Roger Leigh
les is broken. Using make to set site/distro/user-specific options makes more sense. Not only is it more flexible and extensible, it will also work no matter how one builds the package since make will handle it. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/L

Re: Debian version numbers and strcmp()

2009-01-25 Thread Roger Leigh
f the version comparison in a C library would be super, since all the other languages could just wrap it. Regards, Roger (who has just been writing yet another implementation in PL/Perl and PL/pgSQL, but ended up wrapping the libapt implementation.) -- .''`. Roger Leigh

Bug#400112: [PROPOSAL] forbid source/binary package name conflicts

2007-02-10 Thread Roger Leigh
If you have any further ideas about why kfolding won't build, I'll be happy to investigate further :) Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `&#x

Bug#347581: debian-policy: Explicitly permit *-headers binary package created from library source package

2006-01-11 Thread Roger Leigh
l in any case (most -dev packages only contain a static lib as the arch-dependent part). Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BF

Re: Policy should require _pic libraries for static-only libraries

2006-01-06 Thread Roger Leigh
m a few special cases (such as hand-optimised assembly, as Marco mentioned), who actually needs them? Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG

Re: UTF-8 for debian/control

2005-11-06 Thread Roger Leigh
filed against them, which should be upgraded to serious as soon as this is fully mandated by Policy (what happened to the proposal for that we discussed last year? I don't recall any objections). Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print

Re: Policy for devfs support

2005-04-10 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: debian-policy Version: 3.6.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Mar 29, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> - - the traditional device names should be used by default > This is basically som

Re: Policy for devfs support

2005-03-29 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Roger Leigh wrote: >> Is there a project-wide policy for support for devfs (and devfs-style, >> e.g. udev devfs.rules) device naming? > >

Policy for devfs support

2005-03-26 Thread Roger Leigh
y obstruct furthering the integration of the system. Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt