On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 08:44:10AM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Roger Leigh a écrit : > > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 09:14:47PM -0500, David Holland wrote: > >> Can this please get done (adding a C.UTF-8 locale)? It is absolutely > >> required for writing shell scripts that handle UTF-8 data, if you want > >> those shell scripts to have anything like portable or reliable > >> behavior. > > > > This is really in the hands of the glibc maintainers. I thought that > > a bug had been filed months ago, but I can't find it. I've done so > > now. > > I know some persons already tried to work on that, so if patches are > already available, they will be really appreciated. > > Providing a C.UTF-8 locale is quite easy, d-i is already doing that. > Providing a C.UTF-8 *by default* is more complicated, as it has to be > done in the GNU libc code, we can't really on the locale package > generating one. This would mean this package should always be installed, > and that we should trust on user to correctly regenerate the locales if > they do.
Hi Aurelien, I think that initially, simply guaranteeing the presence of C.UTF-8 as a standard locale, generated by localedef/gen will be sufficient. This will allow packages to rely on its presence during normal system operation e.g. in maintainer scripts, for lintian and other programs requiring it. I think having it hardcoded into libc is rather more difficult and having it prior to /usr being mounted is not that important--all of the known use cases do not require this. So at least initially, I think simply providing it outside libc will be more than sufficient. I would like to see it in libc itself eventually, but I am concerned about the UTF-8 codeset table being duplicated for every locale. I'd like to see it shared so that users using it don't have to pay a large penalty for the needless duplication. Possibly best looked at upstream; I did already mention it a year or so back, but I didn't get too far--it was more of a casual enquiry about the possibilities. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `- GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail.
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