Bug#902612: Packages should not touch users' home directories

2018-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Sean Whitton wrote: >> Packages must not contain files in /home, and packages' maintainer >> scripts must not write to users' home directories. The programs in >> those packages may create directory hierarchies as described in >> §3.8.3 "Home Directo

Bug#793633: developers-reference: discuss how to handle backports

2015-08-03 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 5:46 PM, James Montgomery wrote: > wine-mono, I've logged all the dependencies required, meticulously, > and would now like ask you how Debian deals with such build systems > where the build comes from the wine-mono script. > > As you're aware, wine-mono has the custom build

Bug#793633: developers-reference: discuss how to handle backports

2015-07-25 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM, James Montgomery wrote: > As a wine-development user myself who has never done an official > backport I wouldn't mind trying my hand at backporting. Is the wiki > for BuildingFormalBackports[0] the best place to start? Also, if this > is too big a beast to cut my te

Bug#793633: developers-reference: discuss how to handle backports

2015-07-25 Thread Michael Gilbert
x-debbugs-cc: debian-w...@lists.debian.org, debian-backpo...@lists.debian.org, 793...@bugs.debian.org Hi, Resent to correctly include the CC's above. I received a bug against wine today, which boils down to a request for regular backporting of the package to stable: http://bugs.debian.org/793551

Bug#793633: developers-reference: discuss how to handle backports

2015-07-25 Thread Michael Gilbert
package: developers-reference severity: wishlist x-debbugs-cc: debian-backpo...@lists.debian.org x-debbugs-cc: debian-w...@lists.debian.org x-debbugs-cc: 793...@bugs.debian.org x-debbugs-cc: 793551-submit...@bugs.debian.org Hi, I received a bug against wine today, which boils down to a request fo

Bug#542288: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2012-11-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Michael Gilbert wrote: >> I wonder if the part about +nmuN as an >> optional versioning for non-native packages could be re-added? > > It's still not needed or a noticeable existing

Bug#542288: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2012-11-11 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > In the long run, what we want is something that satisfies: > > package < binNMU < stable/security update < NMU < maintainer upload > > with all stable/security updates sorting in Debian release order. > > The current convention of .1 satisf

Bug#681833: developers-reference: please document a package salvaging process

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Gilbert writes: > >> Interesting condition. According to Developers Reference 5.9.4, >> orphaning is a process that is only supposed to be initiated by the >> existing maintainer. > > Orphaning is also

Bug#681833: developers-reference: please document a package salvaging process

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Gilbert
As a reminder to myself if these changes were to gain traction, section 5.9.5 (adopting a package) will also need some rewriting since certain instructions overlap salvaging. Best wishes, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Bug#681833: developers-reference: please document a package salvaging process

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Michael Gilbert, 2012-07-16, 18:35: > >> + >> +If a package has been already been orphaned, you may salvage it without >> any >> +kind of approval. >> + >> + >> + >> +Filing a removal

Bug#681833: developers-reference: please document a package salvaging process

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Gilbert
package: developers-reference severity: normal version: 3.4.8 tag: patch Hi, I've prepared an initial draft of a developers reference patch that would document a package salvaging process. Please see below. Best wishes, Mike --- pkgs.dbk.orig 2012-07-16 18:19:56.065047490 -0400 +++ pkgs.

Re: Proposal to update NMU section 5.11.1

2012-04-24 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Chris Knadle wrote: > I already proposed to write a bug report against the developers-refernece > package in the email prior to the one you're replying to. [1] > > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2012/04/msg00046.html Then do it! Best wishes, Mike --

Re: Proposal to update NMU section 5.11.1

2012-04-24 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Chris Knadle wrote: >> > Try to read between the lines -- it implies "be reluctant to do an NMU >> > unless you're absolutely sure of what you're doing".  That's a much >> > higher bar than the spirit that I think is embodied in Zack's email >> > describing NMUs. >

Bug#587279: debian-policy: section 2.2.1 needs some tweaking

2012-03-14 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Gilbert writes: >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > >>> I think you're in the "rough" of "rough consensus." > >> It takes some moxie to put a dent into the st

Bug#587279: debian-policy: section 2.2.1 needs some tweaking

2012-03-14 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Gilbert writes: > >> Opinions are malleable (wrong and right are all a matter of >> perspective).  This is something sufficiently nuanced that I think its >> worth sufficient pondering to really get it righ

Bug#587279: debian-policy: section 2.2.1 needs some tweaking

2012-03-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Gilbert writes: > >> I understand this section very well, and even with that lead-in wording, >> I contend that sufficient ambiguity remains that additional clarity is >> needed.  Otherwise, it wouldn't h

Bug#587279: debian-policy: section 2.2.1 needs some tweaking

2012-03-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Gilbert writes: > >> This is a bit off-topic for the bug report, but while you're thinking >> about rewording this section, it may be prescient to consider >> non-explicit dependencies. > >> For

Bug#587279: debian-policy: section 2.2.1 needs some tweaking

2012-03-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > This is the bug concerning the wording in current Policy 2.2.1: > >    In addition, the packages in main > >     * must not require a package outside of main for compilation or >       execution (thus, the package must not declare a "Depends",

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Hi, > > During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown > that gzip does not always produce the exact same output from a given > input file. > > While it was shown that removing the requirement to compress > document

Bug#542288: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2011-10-26 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: >> I believe it should also document the N.N standard for >> NMUs of non-native packages, since people don't seem inclined to change to >> +nmu and there's probably no reason to do so. I suppose this isn't a compelling argument, but it's just

Re: Bug#405997: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-15 Thread Michael Gilbert
> Ian Jackson wrote: >> I don't know what azareus's UI for this is like but depending on the >> situation it might be best to make a configuration option, set by >> default, which suppresses it. For example, if the current >> code presents dialogues nagging to be allowed to update from upstream,

Re: Bug#405997: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Jan 14, 1:10 pm, "Shaun Jackman" wrote: > On a stable Debian system, system-wide upgrades can be far between. I > prefer to give the user a choice of whether to use the update system > provided by the upstream author to update the software before the next > stable release of Debian. like i said

should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
hello, is there a policy on whether an executable is permitted to update itself? i personally believe that in order to maintain the security of the system, apt and apt alone should be used to install software updates. recently i submitted a bug on azureus about how it should not urge users to i

Re: policy on binary/package naming convention

2006-01-20 Thread Michael Gilbert
I took a stab at implementing the dbrief concept that I described previously. This tool is useful for me, and I am providing it in the hope that other users find it useful as well. please check out my work at http://dbrief.sourceforge.net and provide feedback. mike > thank you for all of the in

Re: policy on binary/package naming convention

2006-01-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
thank you for all of the interesting comments. what I am getting at is that there should be a simple way for the user to discover what he or she just installed. "dpkg -L ", which is a good start, gives you information about installed files, but the command itself is not easily discoverable (i did

policy on binary/package naming convention

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
es as well. Some packages do not provide binaries at all (gnome-core, documentation, etc.). And some have different names than the primary binary because it is a particular distribution of popular software (package tetex binary latex, etc.). Thank you for your thoughts and consideration. Regards, Michael Gilbert