Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

2006-11-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
TIME+ COMMAND 10229 foo 15 0 4692 1568 1260 S 0.0 0.5 0:00.33 bash I don't remember it being terribly bad... It would be interesting to have the above data on a whole buzz system (as presumably the above is against sarge-era libraries.) Too bad you can't debootstr

Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Bill, "HAM" is not an acronym, so "Ham Radio" would be more appropriate. Even better (IMHO) is the full term "Amateur Radio", but some may disagree. I've CC'd debian-hams for their input also. Thanks for the work on the new menu structure. Hamish -- Hamish

chapter 4 on version numbering doesn't mention ~ trick

2003-04-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
e packages using the old ugly tricks like Samba's 2.99+3.00alpha23 .. The ~ character deliberately has low sorting order, so 3.00~alpha23 < 3.00. Am I free to use it? Please CC me as I'm not subscribed (M-F-T is set correctly). Thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [vhost-base] Draft policy proposal

2001-11-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
at as the rationale. Please explain the need as well. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [vhost-base] Draft policy proposal

2001-11-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
#x27;t explain why this function (a combined directory for web data and logs etc) is needed all. Maybe you have a good reason but you need to explain it in the rationale. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: new fields in debian/control

2000-07-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
h maps origin -> submit-bugs-to and submit-bugs-style? As it is now, if the Debian submit-bugs-to field had to change, we'd have to recompile all the packages. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: PROPOSAL: complete list of documentation files, "man ", all man pages refer to said doc list in "See Also" section

2000-05-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 08:25:29PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > I resized my xterm and used a current dpkg. Cool! Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: PROPOSAL: complete list of documentation files, "man ", all man pages refer to said doc list in "See Also" section

2000-05-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Linux kernel binary image. ii kernel-package 7.04.potato.1 Debian Linux kernel package build scripts. ... the useful part of the package name is cut off. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: missing FHS archives

2000-01-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ble programs with shared loadable libraries. A clear mixing of > function. Or I could just have FreeBSD braindamage. There's other stuff in there too, if you want to be pedantic -- architecture-specific non-variable data files. cheers Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies

Re: Making a NEW area (Re: Intention to Donate troll-ftpd 1.25)

1999-11-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
). So what's to discuss -- just do it if you think it's a good idea? I don't think it's a good idea, but I digress. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.

Re: Debian membership (with a twist)

1999-10-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
pretty lively a few weeks back. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

query about /etc

1999-07-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
kages.) (Other trivia: although /usr/share allows us to share files among similar hosts, we don't really have a good way to use that advantage, do we? There's no way to tell dpkg that it doesn't need to install files in /usr/share because that's network mounted already.) Hamish --

Bug#40766: PROPOSED] Rewrite of "Configuration files" section

1999-07-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ntly hacked the cucipop package not to do this. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Bug#40766: Rewrite of "configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
dpkg will overwrite them on upgrades. inetd.conf, exim.conf etc are not included in any .deb file. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Bug#40766: PROPOSED] Rewrite of "Configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
in the package. (They are configuration files for the system, so it's a bit confusing). They're definately conffiles, though, unless otherwise managed. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Bug#40766: Rewrite of "configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 03:26:09PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > Hess). I'd guess that Hamish generally approves...but unless I get at > least one more second, I'm going to have to let these drop. I second this proposal. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs

Re: Debian conflicts with FHS on /usr/include/{linux,asm}

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
hrow away > the old software until you've tested the new--especially at the system and > kernel levels. If you want to get picky, the admin has no business installing sources directly into /usr/src, being a vendor-controlled area. I keep my kernel source in /usr/local/src/linux-2.2 and

Bug#40766: Rewrite of "configuration files" section

1999-07-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ask them about upgrading configuration files they've never heard of. You should lobby the maintainer of the package's conffile you want to modify to give you a mechanism (like updated-inetd etc) to do so. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Bug#40766: Rewrite of "configuration files" section

1999-07-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 08:39:18PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 11-Jul-99, 19:58 (CDT), Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 4.7.4. Sharing configuration files > > -- > > > > Only packages that are t

Bug#40766: Rewrite of "configuration files" section

1999-07-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
this point out to avoid confusion. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
see it as possible. In the days of buzz, rex, and bo (before I was a developer too) you could certainly mix these reasonably well. There were some libc5 upgrades and some dpkg upgrades which were mandatory, but nothing too serious. (In particular, rex's dpkg (IIRC) introduced epochs.) Hamish -

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jun 28, 1999 at 12:06:53AM +0200, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: > But this doesn't solve the other problem: dpkg -L shows these symlinks > as real man pages. This is annoying at least for me... But why on earth are you looking for manual pages with dpkg -L? Hamish -- Hamish Mo

Re: Are /cdrom and /floppy really forbidden by policy?

1999-04-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
else. I think the current situation is just fine, especially with Santiago's suggestion of only creating these at install time. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. pgpgt7yEaCtAq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Are /cdrom and /floppy really forbidden by policy?

1999-04-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
; filesystem than is /.. Just my opinion of course. /mnt is for temporary mounts; I do not consider /cdrom to be a temporary mount, myself. IMHO, /mnt/* is an ugly Red Hatism. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. pgpRROc2M4993.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Are /cdrom and /floppy really forbidden by policy?

1999-04-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
nments. Where do real world users store their real work -- in their home directories? What about group projects? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Re: smarter way to differ architectures needed?

1999-03-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 01:08:42AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > How about using "Builder:"? It means the same thing and is more > graceful-looking than "Compiled-by:". How about "Compiler: "? :-) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL

Re: Bug#33156: debian-policy: Cannot find referenced file in given URL

1999-03-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 03, 1999 at 06:10:10PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Hamish Moffatt writes ("Re: Bug#33156: debian-policy: Cannot find referenced > file in given URL"): > ... > > Maintainer scripts should be written in posix or bash; no argument there. > > However,

Re: Bug#33156: debian-policy: Cannot find referenced file in given URL

1999-02-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 06:06:42PM +0100, Brederlow wrote: > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think this section should be removed from policy. This document > > contains some (very arguable) reasons why new scripts should not be written > > in csh,

Bug#33156: debian-policy: Cannot find referenced file in given URL

1999-02-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
1$ mail adec23!alberta!pixel.Convex.COM!tchrist bash: !alberta!pixel.Convex.COM!tchrist: event not found -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org

Re: smarter way to differ architectures needed?

1999-02-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
probably hate it. So then you have to wonder whether the kernel is actually better than Linux, and if not, is it worth doing? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of re

source dependencies

1999-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
-Suggests definately not. Only dpkg-source should need to be modified. I thought someone said Klee had developed a dpkg variant that did this already, but I couldn't find it poking around master. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Late

Re: Relation with non-existing packages

1999-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jan 06, 1999 at 05:56:46PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > This says that a package cannot conflict with an old version of another > > package. That is bad! > > You're right. Saying that you may conflict with packages in old

Re: xbase: the .Xdefaults issue

1999-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 11:10:35PM -0800, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > >>>>> "Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben> The XFree86 sources as shipped use ~/.Xresources as the > Ben> default place for user X resources. Every ot

Re: Relation with non-existing packages

1999-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
gt; a real package, a virtual package provided by another package or a > virtual package from the list of virtual packages. This says that a package cannot conflict with an old version of another package. That is bad! Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAI

Re: xbase: the .Xdefaults issue

1998-12-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
/.Xresources. Interesting. I have .Xdefaults, and the settings in there work if I use "startx", but not if I login on xdm. And xdm seems to have disappeared from my system, so I can't try it now to see if it makes the difference. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: developer's ref -- new chapter on NMUs and ports

1998-11-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
pe you all like it. As Ben says, it's excellent. One minor typo; it says "sounce" instead of "source" in one place. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9

Re: FHS - transition

1998-10-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ian-developer knows of. > Perhaps he hacked info to have colors once, and he would like to keep using > his program. How can we support every possible custom script? The system changes; some things will break. Custom scripts will need maintenance; I don't think that's too unreasonab

Re: Bug#27906: PROPOSED] Binary-only NMU's

1998-10-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
that I download from sunsite. DFSG does not say, 'must build > with a single command on every platform' . Finally, it makes life much > easier for both of the developers involved. I also have received patches this way from Paul and have no objection to this method. Hamish -- Hamish

Re: Comments on policy modifications

1998-09-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
> should push for consistency. Consistency is to compress them -- we compress all other documentation in /usr/doc except the copyright files. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#

Re: /usr/X11R6

1998-08-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
l too, and is all I am doing with my packages]. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org

Re: enforcing doc-base

1998-07-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
quite a bit of practice to learn how to hunt down documents. Can you or one of the doc-base developers give me (or point me at) an executive summary of that doc-base does? thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian

Re: generating gpg keys

1998-07-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 08:12:43PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > On generating gpg keys, how can one go about getting enough entropy on > > one's own machine? I tried generating it on a server I have co-located > >

generating gpg keys

1998-07-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ggestions? thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Summary[2]: dpkg and alpha/beta versioning

1998-06-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
amp; Klee (and other dpkg maintainers) be well within their right to break it? Of course, it's done now (for libc6) and needs to be fixed, which is what epochs are for, even if the manual says they aren't. They fix incorrect version numbers, but the manual is warning against making suc

Re: Policy as rule of law, or whatever

1998-05-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, May 21, 1998 at 12:26:08PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > This I agree with. However I believe that there is a perception at > present that if policy does not seem to fit your package, you may simply > ignore it. I do not think that works. That is, I think that some maintai

Re: Policy as rule of law, or whatever

1998-05-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
merely says > that packages and policy should be consistent, and that if they're not > then one of them should be fixed. This I agree with. However I believe that there is a perception at present that if policy does not seem to fit your package, you may simply ignore it. I do not thi

Re: Policy as rule of law, or whatever

1998-05-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
;t > the relevant policy document maintainer would agree at once. This seems reasonable. If adopted, can we define policy to be binding rather than just recommendations/guidelines? I have real trouble with the idea of a policy which is non-binding (for Debian at least). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Vers

1998-05-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, May 10, 1998 at 01:09:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hamish Moffatt) wrote on 10.05.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > >Packages only have to specify the first three digits of the > > > > > version number in the

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Vers

1998-05-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
7; field of their source packages." They both say the same thing to me -- >= 3. If = 3 was intended, "must" or "should" should be used, as in "Packages must specify only the first three digits of the version ..." Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [E

Re: New policy editor ?

1998-05-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
easonable. However, in the past there has been criticism that the same group of core people (eg Guy, Ian) are responsible for several big tasks, and that other developers are unwilling to take on those tasks. (IIRC, at least). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: PROPOSAL: defining a new runlevel, 4

1998-05-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
g on; Branden's whole point was that runlevels could solve the xdm & xfs mess in the /etc/X11/config file; your runlevel proposal doesn't address that at all. Is "it's traditional" a good enough reason to do things? Traditionally a Unix platform doesn't come with

Re: An interesting dependancy problem

1998-04-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
vide that package when I filed #16652 else I would have mentioned it (it still wouldn't solve javalex's problem though). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of

Re: An alternatives question

1998-04-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ded to be an X-subsitute? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

Re: Stripping ELF .note and .comment sections?

1998-03-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
dinfo.Debian a debstdism not reflected in debhelper? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt Mobile: +61 412 011 176 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rising Software Australia Pty. Ltd. Developers of music education software including Auralia & Musition. 31 Elmhurst Road, Blackburn, Victoria Australia, 3130

Re: sources to both contrib & main packages

1998-02-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
and a contrib package. But, having written that, I think you're trying to tell me that it doesn't matter. Building www-mysql might fail if the mysql package is not installed, but that doesn't matter because www-pgsql can be built successfully. Is that what you meant? Does anyone di

sources to both contrib & main packages

1998-02-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ne? dpkg-buildpackage needs multiple binary targets, perhaps. Some other packages were mentioned on debian-devel which have the same problem; ax25utils (has some xforms support), ddd and some others. thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Deb

Re: policy violation and bug reports. - some resolution?

1998-02-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
nst is called with purge. Isn't this a better solution than calling the files conffiles, even though they aren't? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D

Re: manpage for GNU utilities?

1998-02-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
d people who say outdated man pages are bad, but > lack of knowledge of the tools available is no justification in a > policy debate. Not being an emacs user myself, I find info hard to use. On the other hand, man gives you your choice of pager, so man has no such problem. Hamish -- H

Re: `du' control files

1998-02-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
he packages that don't have them. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org

Re: Implementation of Developer's DB

1998-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
oo. Any simple way to configure smail to handle this? Plussed addresses bounce here. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org

Re: /bin/sh as an alternative

1998-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 12:08:47AM +0100, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > Yes, I can only agree. But is bash actually completely POSIX-compliant > (and nothing more than that) when called as /bin/sh ? It would appear not: sh-2.01$ echo hello {there,world} hello there world Hamish -- Hamish M

Re: dhelp/dwww: "document.htmlgz", Apache mod_rewrite, mod_actions

1998-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
matically to add this. I had done this in www-sql (which benefits from configuring apache to handle .sql files) but later found out that it's not allowed by policy. Finding a way for apache to allow configuration modifications would be nice but difficult I suspect. hamish -- Hamish Moffa

Re: PW#5-5: Standardized handling of /etc/init.d script options

1998-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
t simply > > does nothing.) > > Tut tut! What you really mean must be: does nothing but exits with a > non-zero status. Or else we need to reword PW#5-5. Is a non-zero status useful? After all, cron WILL reload the configuration, even though that isn't caused by the scri

Re: PW#5-5: Standardized handling of /etc/init.d script options

1998-01-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
eful? For example, if a script is going to exit with an error for reload, does it need to mention reload? hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org

Re: PW#5-3: How packages can register cron jobs

1998-01-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
to use it later today. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org

Re: Free software replacements for PGP and SSH (was: Re: are md5sums mandatory for all packages?)

1997-12-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
g on my libc6 system unfortunately. Different errors again on a solaris-2.5 system I just tried. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists

Re: are md5sums mandatory for all packages?

1997-12-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Dec 20, 1997 at 07:02:45PM +0100, David Frey wrote: > On Sat, Dec 20 1997 16:17 +1100 Hamish Moffatt writes: > > On Fri, Dec 19, 1997 at 01:31:38PM -0500, Scott Ellis wrote: > > > And the instant someone provides us with free software equivilant to ssh > > > o

Re: Rationale for /etc/init.d/* being conffiles?

1997-12-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
o > be modified should imply that *all* scripts are useful to be modified? Why aren't all scripts useful to be modified? hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of repli

Re: MD5SUMs in debs / dpkg install hook (new thought)

1997-12-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
, which is pgp-signed by the real author. I would prefer build time. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org

Re: are md5sums mandatory for all packages?

1997-12-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
(as I had not done), it mightn't hurt to better advertise the not-necessarily-free status of these packages. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from m

Re: Backspace and delete

1997-12-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
inly because not all shells do parse /etc/profile. No, tcsh for example does not. Do the C shells fit in this policy? hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org

Re: Changelog files

1997-12-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ed files, and you can use filename completion to get the filename. Or you can configure your lesspipe script to automatically decompress files. OTOH, I don't really mind either way, just thought I would point these things out. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED

final bo-updates naming scheme

1997-12-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Can someone post the final agreed bo-updates naming scheme? thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ow volume and this thread is most of the traffic at present. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [**] 6

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
of our packages. Why does KDE deserve special treatment? hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [**] 6

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ee distributions (main, non-free, contrib)? hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [**] 60% The opposit

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
n now, and > everything you showed didn't impress me. i will obey any decission, > that will be done. What is wrong with Christian's final solution? You didn't reply. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer sc

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
hat we do it. Perhaps a field could indicate that a particular package belongs to a group that make up a whole product, eg kde. Then the whole lot conflict using Distributor: .. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science &

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
lation of debian policy, which I assume is why Andreas does his own. Although Andreas encourages us not to get the KDE people off-side, sometimes it wouldn't hurt if the KDE people would try not to piss us off either. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PRO

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
to distribute both kdes. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [**] 60% Your train has bee

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 2.0 (fwd)

1997-11-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
rovided with the kernel, that is) but most application software doesn't. I don't see your point regarding linux 2.1 though. Thanks for your reply. Regarding possible correction in FHS 2.1, I'm just surprised this didn't come up in the discussion for FHS 2.0. Hamish -- Hamish Moffa

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 2.0 (fwd)

1997-11-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Nov 16, 1997 at 11:37:40PM -0800, Daniel Quinlan wrote: > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > But I was shocked to see the Linux annex specify that > > /usr/include/{asm,linux} should be a symlink -> /usr/src/linux/... > > Are we in danger

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 2.0 (fwd)

1997-11-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
that now. But I was shocked to see the Linux annex specify that /usr/include/{asm,linux} should be a symlink -> /usr/src/linux/... Are we in danger of being labelled FHS-compatible (instead of FHS-compliant) because we do what libc6 and Linus both recommend? hamish -- Hamish Moffatt,

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 2.0 (fwd)

1997-11-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ad a rationale for the changes. thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 58% The opposi

Re: US Debian Crypto Policy - Project leadership position

1997-10-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
ep aside. What is it you don't like about SPI Dave? It's stupid to say that the interests of SPI conflict with the interests of Debian, because SPI was set up to service Debian. SPI gives Debian some financial advantages, nothing more. What is the problem? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, Stu

Re: US Debian Crypto Policy - Project leadership position

1997-10-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
those standing to (hopefully) take your job > later this > year. If you don't have something constructive to say, please don't. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.