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Bug #15412 etherconf in sid

I cannot seem to submit this anywhere, I'm getting bounced no matter what list I join. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bruce Edge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Dec 15, 2006 8:34 AM Subject: Bug #15412 etherconf in sid To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This bug has digressed into a p

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

e to developers. Sounds right, and proper, given Debian's focus on freeness. So, why POSIX... history, completeness? - Bruce -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

New molluscum treatment device

I thought you might be interested in this new home based treatment device. http://www.molluscum.com Thanks, Bruce Evans, M.D. To be removed from this list, send an e-mail to our webmaster with the word "remove" in the subject area. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#51842: [PROPOSED] closing hole in DFSG that can force you to include some text in advertisement

e run the risk of "breaking the magic" by making the document less comprehensible to the average person, and less stable in their perception. Thanks Bruce

Re: Namespace pollution

"a single common dictionary word" is vague and too restrictive. I also don't think it defines the collision space well. I think you can do better at defining this. Thanks Bruce

Re: #17544: /var/preserve does not exist

S read on this issue, please? Thanks Bruce

Re: doc only packages

I'll correspond with Tim B-L. I have the license statement. Thanks Bruce

Re: doc only packages

pies. That's really as much as they should do. Free software includes the freedom to maintain it. Thanks Bruce

Re: Non-interactive installs [Re: need libc5 non-maintainer upgrade]

the package be installed to run. See http://www.caldera.com/coas . Thanks Bruce

Re: Backspace and delete

his policy? They need their own rc file, but then, so do many of our 11 login shells in hamm/main. I think the policy should be codified. Bruce

Re: LZW compression -- source code non-free?

I'm familiar with the Welch patent. It's only for compression. Decompression uses the LZ algorithm. It would be best to isolate the compressor so that you could still read these files even if you had not loaded the plugin to create them. Bruce

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 2.0 (fwd)

rom the application. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502

Re: * Formal call for the removal of Bruce Perens *

Leave Dave alone, he's already abandoned this argument. Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502

Need addition to policy manual for new developers

ual" and the "Debian Packaging Manual". Somehow, some people become maintainers without ever reading the social contract! I would not have thought it was possible :-) Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the

term limits

From: Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I just don't see the point in making the process of succession so > competitive. It depends if you want the project leader choice to be democratic or not. If it's going to be democratic, there _has_ to be competition. Thanks

on term limits

and I can trade jobs :-) Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502

Re: abandoning the rules of discourse

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Jackson) > You might also find that becoming a developer would enhance your credibility. There's a little trust issue standing in the way of that, I fear. Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable o

on returning to our rules of discourse

really care about in order to get the stuff he does care about accepted. For me, the personal decision is clear. I don't want to work with the type 1 people or the type 2 people. If Debian became full of them, I'd take the best of the team and continue the work elsewhere. Th

Re: Policy Weekly Issue #4/15: Documentation policy

From: Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > REF: cf. #7890, cf. #11095 Are these article numbers or something? They would not be the same on my system as on yours. Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating sys

Re: Forwarded: RFC: New source packaging format

mise that a .deb file is just an 'ar' > file with two tarballs inside - one for control info and one for > binaries. The package file format is not the problem. It's the fact that you are using the binary package tool to do something it was not designed for. Thanks

Re: Forwarded: RFC: New source packaging format

lem does not happen, the old extracted files have not been removed when extracting the new package, and you may be stuck with files that have been deleted in the more recent source. Maybe you should remove all old files in the postinst, too. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your o

Re: Forwarded: RFC: New source packaging format

ack rule in the > Makefile to /var/lib/dpkg/info/. This does not take care of removing source files that have been removed from the archive since the last version, and any generated files. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502

Re: Forwarded: RFC: New source packaging format

g all of the separate files of the dpkg-source packages. Make it unnecessary to rename the original source file. Add to that binary dependencies. You'd have all I think is necessary. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the

abandoning the rules of discourse

, disrespectful language will be allowed, and obscentity will be allowed. Is this really what people want? Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL

Re: Forwarded: RFC: New source packaging format

ng a monolithic source package. However, we have had many requests for a single-file source package, and such a thing could easily be extracted into diffs and source just as we have today. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the suppor

Re: abandoning the rules of discourse

irring up discussion is definitely part of that. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502

Re: abandoning the rules of discourse

dividual on moderation. 3. Entirely blocking an individual from the mailing lists. We should consider the cases of people who violate rules of discourse, people who rave endlessly, and people who are either clueless or crazy. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system

Re: When to get the upstream maintainer involved.

ntainers are not all the same. I just don't want Debian to be conveying the "can you do my homework, please" image to the upstream maintainers. Are you interested in editing my text into something "friendlier"? Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating syste

Re: Debian Book Published

book can read it on the web or buy it in a bookstore, but it's not free software and we have no business distributing it. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.htm

When to get the upstream maintainer involved.

idea for you to swap that package for another, with a maintainer who can handle it better. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: When to get the upstream maintainer involved.

> I think that you're being a little too strict in your policy, Bruce. This is in response to a complaint from Ted Tso's, who is the upstream maintainer of e2fsutils. He said that Red Hat takes care of its own bugs, and we should as well. I have to agree with him. Bruce --

Re: chrooting daemons

environment. > That's "ifs" (http://www.funet.fi/pub/Linux/mirrors/tsx-11/ALPHA/ifs/), > but its from 1994. The author, W. Almesberger is still active. OK. I'll ask Werner what has become of it. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system f

Re: chrooting daemons

t see it in recent kernels. It could be done with the prof filesystem. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502

Re: chrooting daemons

nks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502

Re: chrooting daemons

Before you run a shared-library program in a chroot context, you need to provide the shared libraries in that context. It's easier to have the daemon chroot itself after it's already been loaded. It's also nice to have the daemon drop root privileges, but it's not always poss

Re: US Debian Crypto Policy - Project leadership position

ropriate for you to move that discussion to your own list server, for the reason cited above. Can you please do that? Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce P

Re: Why no listing in packages for ssh, apache-ssl, etc. (And no US sites?)

nment from the mail room. Just a few more good test cases and we'll be ready to host crypto export again. You have a chance to make a real contribution here, but you have to get indicted and win to do it. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you

Re: Why no listing in packages for ssh, apache-ssl, etc. (And no US sites?)

a test case? If so, you might want to send some email to the State and Commerce departments once your mirror is running, and to CIA and FBI, etc. If you fight the government and win a clear victory in court, it would be helpful to the rest of us. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your o

Re: /usr /opt split proposal [long]

I think Debian should reserve /opt for compatibility with third-party packages that were intended for other distributions. No Debian package should install in /opt. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system