Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-11-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 09:08:18PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > Would anybody object to Roger patch being applied without the reference to > /run/shm, and leave this particular topic to another bug report ? > Beside, I attach an alternative patch by Thomas Hood that I found in the > log but whic

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-11-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Michael Biebl wrote: > At the current state, I'm not for adding /run/shm to debian-policy. > If we can get wider acceptance of this feature (cross-distro), then my > position > on this might change. Atm this looks like a Debian-only feature with no real > use-case why we need

Bug#593533: debian-policy: Proposal to stop requesting to list initial Debian maintainers in debian/copyright

2011-11-28 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Charles Plessy , 2011-11-29, 09:07: In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream - sources (if any) were obtained. It should name the original - authors of the package and the Debian maintainer(s) who were - involved with its creation.

Bug#593533: debian-policy: Proposal to stop requesting to list initial Debian maintainers in debian/copyright

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 09:07:02AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:33:05AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > > > > > In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream > > - sources (if any) were obtained. It should name the original > > -

Bug#593533: debian-policy: Proposal to stop requesting to list initial Debian maintainers in debian/copyright

2011-11-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:33:05AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > > In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream > - sources (if any) were obtained. It should name the original > - authors of the package and the Debian maintainer(s) who were > -

Bug#630174: debian-policy: forbid installation into /lib64

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 01:28:30PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 09:52:57PM -0600, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:55:20AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > > According to apt-file, prohibiting to install files into /lib64 and > > > /usr/lib64 >

Bug#578421: virtual-packages: Retire java-compiler, java2-compiler and java-virtual-machine

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:07:53AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > Rene Engelhard wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 08:33:12PM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > >> [java{,2}-compiler] > >> - default-jdk. If used in an alternative in Build-Depends{,-Indep} then > >> pick > >> one of the options (T

Bug#588497: New virtual package: httpd-wsgi

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:01:04PM +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Russ Allbery, 2010-07-19] > > Piotr Ożarowski writes: > > >> What other implementations of WSGI on the server side are there in > > >> Debian besides libapache2-mod-wsgi? I want to get a feel for how broad > > >> the usage of the

Re: Please apply the following patches for copyright-format.xml.

2011-11-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:17:36PM +0100, Bill Allombert a écrit : > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:01:17AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > I would like to propose to apply the following patches, and after this to > > call for either reporting new issues or declaring the DEP accepted. > > As I u

Bug#633797: copyright-format: "with exception" underspecified

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 02:19:34PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > I've committed the below patch to the dep repo on svn.debian.org. > > === modified file 'web/deps/dep5.mdwn' > --- old/web/deps/dep5.mdwn2011-11-11 15:27:02 + > +++ new/web/deps/dep5.mdwn2011-11-25 20:15:33 + > @@ -1

Processed: limit source to debian-policy, tagging 633797

2011-11-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > #debian-policy (3.9.3.0) UNRELEASED; urgency=low > # > # * copyright-format: Clarify specification of multiple license exception: > #Wording: Steve Langasek > #Seconded: Craig Small > #Seconded: Gregor Herrmann > #Seconded: Jak

Bug#628515: recommending verbose build logs

2011-11-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert writes: > For example upgrading automake to 1.11 will activate terse log by > default without notice, so the developpers are in the painful situation > to have to disable a feature they never wanted to activate in the first > place. I'm fairly certain this is not the case. That w

Bug#628515: recommending verbose build logs

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:37:41AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bill Allombert writes: > > > Most packages will only provide verbose log, so it is rather terse logs > > that are optionnal. So maybe the option should be > > DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=terse. > > I agree with this. Most packages are alread

Re: Please apply the following patches for copyright-format.xml.

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:01:17AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > user debian-pol...@packages.debian.org > usertags 649674 informative > tag 649674 patch > usertags 649679 normative issue > thanks > > Le Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:26:33PM +0100, Bill Allombert a écrit : > > > > As I said previously,

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Hood
BTW, my alternative patch was intended only to improve the wording, not to change the import. I hope I succeeded (in improving it) and, if so, that you'll accept the improvement. Cheers, -- Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscri

Bug#628515: recommending verbose build logs

2011-11-28 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Bill Allombert (28/11/2011): > I suppose we want the autobuilders to generate verbose log, but I am not > sure if we want the autobuilders to use a non-empty DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS > (and whether we can). > > It is unfortunately possible than a typo in debian/rules only trigger if > DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-11-28 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 09:08:18PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 05:50:52PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Am 08.06.2011 23:22, schrieb Bill Allombert: > > > Hello Cyril and Michael, > > > > > > Are you willing to resecond this as the final version ? > > > > > > At the

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 05:50:52PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 08.06.2011 23:22, schrieb Bill Allombert: > > Hello Cyril and Michael, > > > > Are you willing to resecond this as the final version ? > > > At the current state, I'm not for adding /run/shm to debian-policy. > If we can get wid

Bug#628515: recommending verbose build logs

2011-11-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert writes: > Most packages will only provide verbose log, so it is rather terse logs > that are optionnal. So maybe the option should be > DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=terse. I agree with this. Most packages are already doing the right thing, and I think terse logs should be the non-default op

Re: Please apply the following patches for copyright-format.xml.

2011-11-28 Thread Simon McVittie
Some minor corrections for those patches: On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 at 00:01:17 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Example header paragraph > -Format: > +Format: > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/; > Upstream-Name: SOFTware Should

Processed: Please apply the following patches for copyright-format.xml.

2011-11-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > user debian-pol...@packages.debian.org Setting user to debian-pol...@packages.debian.org (was ple...@debian.org). > usertags 649674 informative Bug#649674: [copyright-format] Proofreading of the examples. There were no usertags set. Usertags are n

Please apply the following patches for copyright-format.xml.

2011-11-28 Thread Charles Plessy
user debian-pol...@packages.debian.org usertags 649674 informative tag 649674 patch usertags 649679 normative issue thanks Le Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:26:33PM +0100, Bill Allombert a écrit : > > As I said previously, my plan was to upload 3.9.3 as soon as the DEP issues > are resolved. > Unfortun

Bug#637614: §9.10: Do not recommend to call install-docs, as it is triggered.

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 07:54:43PM +0100, Robert Luberda wrote: > Charles Plessy writes: > > Hi, > > > > Dear Robert (maintainer of doc-base) and everybody, > > > > I have proposed the patch below to the Debian Policy in August this year, to > > stop recommending the direct use of install-docs f

Bug#628515: recommending verbose build logs

2011-11-28 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Charles Plessy , 2011-11-28, 16:11: it seems to me that the best way to materialise a consensus for a release goal is to actually get it listed in http://release.debian.org/wheezy/goals.txt and have the work started. Matthias has already proposed it as RG, and he was redirected here: http:/

Processed: limit source to debian-policy, tagging 637614

2011-11-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > #debian-policy (3.9.3.0) UNRELEASED; urgency=low > # > # * Policy 9.10: No more recommend to call install-docs for doc-base. > #Wording: Charles Plessy > #Seconded: Robert Luberda > #Seconded: Raphael Hertzog > #Closes: #637614

Re: Timeline for 3.9.3 ?

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:57:29AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear Policy maintainers, > > the 3.9.2 release happened last April, and since then 9 bugs were closed, > about > syntax of control files, japanese fonts, the machine-readable copyright file > format, and the Perl and Motif policies

Re: RFC: Policy process considered harmful

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 01:58:31AM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Disclaimer: the below is a half-baked long-term proposal for a process > change. If you're wondering about how to do useful work today, please > ignore it. But comments welcome. > > Hi, > > My experience has been that the policy

Bug#628515: recommending verbose build logs

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 04:39:33AM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Jakub Wilk wrote: > > * Jonathan Nieder , 2011-11-26, 18:37: > > [...] > >> I do not suspect there is a > >> consensus for this. > > > > Why do you think there is not? > > I was guessing, it seems incorrectly, based on the lack of

Bug#628515: recommending verbose build logs

2011-11-28 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > For reference dpkg supports "DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=maintainer-build" [...] > I also think that it would be more convenient to have the buildd set the > verbose mode and others to have the silent rules by default but I don't > think this is going to take traction. We have quite