On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 05:58:17PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote:
>
> The consensus we arrived at on debian-doc list (with the exception of
> Colin Walters) was that XML/SGML source is in fact source and
> shouldn't be there bloating binary pkgs.
Thanks for summarizing. I should have responded to d
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 10:57:48PM +0100, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> I did not mean an URI _into_ a field (like URIs into Description), but a
> general field which would only contain a URI. URIs are not descriptive for the
> binary package management, so it's my _opinion_ (!standards)
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 04:32:10PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote:
>
> I have a question for further discussion, which I'm unsure about. May
> or may not be a policy issue.
>
> Is it a good practice for SGML or XML documentation to ship with
> source?
>
> Pros:
> - providing source lets contributor
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 10:44:18PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 17:32, Adam DiCarlo wrote:
> > I have a question for further discussion, which I'm unsure about. May
> > or may not be a policy issue.
> >
> > Is it a good practice for SGML or XML documentation to ship with
>
My only problem with using the download location URL is not a
technical one, but rather than download locations are not software
home pages, and the one can't in all cases be derived from the other.
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The consensus we arrived at on debian-doc list (with the exception of
Colin Walters) was that XML/SGML source is in fact source and
shouldn't be there bloating binary pkgs. Just FYI. Not that I'm
proposing this as a policy item, although it might become DDP policy,
who knows.
--
...Adam Di Car
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 01:56:28PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> restart
> - stop and restart the service,
> + stop and restart the service if the service is already
> running, otherwise start the service,
>
> reload
Agreed; this is already the way
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:29:22PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 04:50:26PM +, Martin Wheeler wrote:
[re: my statement that "homepage" is not (yet) a word.]
> > Neither is 'Debian'.
> Yes, but we didn't choose this name.
More to the point, names aren't necessarily suppo
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:14:15PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> Policy already mandate upstream site in copyright, and it work:
The location of the source is not necessarily the same as the project
home page (assuming there is a project home page). Small projects
especially may have a home pag
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:30:51PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Yes, but that means extraction of possibly huge data.tar.gz, versus
> extracting a much tinier control.tar.gz.
I can't tell it for sure, but a c program that only extracting such a file
should
not be so slow, or at least not slower th
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On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 08:40:08PM +0100, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> > If you define "easy" as within reach of "dpkg-deb -x"... I don't.
> > "dpkg-deb -I" is easy.
>
> I may not have undestood, but you don't need to extract the package: if
> you want a quick way to have the copyright
Andrew Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yeah, this would be great!
>
>> (BTW does anyone know offhand of a good reference for what's supposed
>> to happen when you end up with conflicting shared-lib sub-depends?
>> I.e. libfoo -> libbar -> libbaz1
>> -> libbax -> libbaz2
>> so
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 01:06:15AM -0600, Rob Browning wrote:
> Timshel Knoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Possible solutions:
>
> 4. Fix libtool and libltdl to support
>lt_dlopen_interface (const char *name, int interface)
> and use that.
>
> This would require modifyin
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 07:25:14PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> If you define "easy" as within reach of "dpkg-deb -x"... I don't.
> "dpkg-deb -I" is easy.
I may not have undestood, but you don't need to extract the package: if
you want a quick way to have the copyright file, you can unpack the pack
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:04:26PM +0100, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> > > Policy already mandate upstream site in copyright, and it work:
> > > try
> > > grep '\(f\|ht\)tp://' /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
> > >
> > > 2) Add link to copyright files in packages.debian.org. I think it is
>
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 04:50:26PM +, Martin Wheeler wrote:
> > If I have any remaining reservations about this proposal, it's that
> > "homepage" is not (yet) an English word, IMO.
>
> Neither is 'Debian'.
Yes, but we didn't choose this name. This is not 1993, we get to have a
discussion abo
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 07:56, Bill Allombert wrote:
> Package: debian-policy
> Version: 3.5.8.0
> Severity: wishlist
> Tags: patch
>
> Here a patch that clarify the behavior of /etc/init.d/foo restart.
>
> This is taken straight out of
> LSB 1.2 / Chapter 22. / System Initialization / Init Script
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:27:37PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:14:15PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > Policy already mandate upstream site in copyright, and it work:
> > try
> > grep '\(f\|ht\)tp://' /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
> >
> > 2) Add link to copyright files in
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Chris Waters wrote:
> If I have any remaining reservations about this proposal, it's that
> "homepage" is not (yet) an English word, IMO.
Neither is 'Debian'.
Now for goodness' sake -- grow up.
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> that program may be configured to use /usr/bin/sensible-www-browser
Inconsistency that should probably be fixed before going into Policy.
Joy write :
>On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:14:15PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
>> Policy already mandate upstream site in copyright, and it work:
>> try
>> grep '\(f\|ht\)tp://' /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
>>
>> 2) Add link to copyright files in packages.debian.org. I think it is
>> already worked o
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:23:57PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:14:15PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > Hello developers,
> >
> > Policy already mandate upstream site in copyright, and it work:
> > try
> > grep '\(f\|ht\)tp://' /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
> [...]
>
>
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Bill Allombert wrote:
> Here a patch that clarify the behavior of /etc/init.d/foo restart.
>
> This is taken straight out of
> LSB 1.2 / Chapter 22. / System Initialization / Init Script Actions
>
> --- policy.sgml 2002-11-15 07:49:40.0 +0100
> +++ policy.sgml.
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:14:15PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> Policy already mandate upstream site in copyright, and it work:
> try
> grep '\(f\|ht\)tp://' /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
>
> 2) Add link to copyright files in packages.debian.org. I think it is
> already worked on.
This requires e
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:14:15PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> Hello developers,
>
> Policy already mandate upstream site in copyright, and it work:
> try
> grep '\(f\|ht\)tp://' /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
[...]
$ grep '\(f\|ht\)tp://' /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/copyright
http://www.pat
Hello developers,
Policy already mandate upstream site in copyright, and it work:
try
grep '\(f\|ht\)tp://' /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
In fact
grep -A1 '^It was downloaded from' /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
output a result for half of the packages on my system.
Why not:
1) Document this feature:
Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.5.8.0
Severity: wishlist
Tags: patch
Here a patch that clarify the behavior of /etc/init.d/foo restart.
This is taken straight out of
LSB 1.2 / Chapter 22. / System Initialization / Init Script Actions
--- policy.sgml 2002-11-15 07:49:40.0 +0100
+++ pol
Followup-For: Bug #172436
Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.5.8.0
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Package: debian-policy
> Version: 3.5.8.0
> Severity: normal
>
> As discussed earlier on this list, and now implemented by lots of stuff
> in Debian[2] and with only a few to go[3], I'm prop
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 02:01:36PM -0800, Chris Waters wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:49:38PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:03:54AM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote:
>
> > > As for the extra work, it doesn't matter.
>
> > It's not nice to screw around with other people's
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:18:05AM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> The new field should be done properly ASAP; the developers'
> reference can document the existing practice of putting this stuff
> in the Description: field, but if we have a consensus to make a new
> field, then we should do that, not
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 02:01:36PM -0800, Chris Waters wrote:
> > > As for the extra work, it doesn't matter.
>
> > It's not nice to screw around with other people's time like that.
>
> But no one is *required* to do anything. (Yet, if ever.) This is a
> "best-practices" suggestion that only ap
Timshel Knoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Possible solutions:
4. Fix libtool and libltdl to support
lt_dlopen_interface (const char *name, int interface)
and use that.
This would require modifying libtool to install a versioned .la
files (on archs that can't just dlopen
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