Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Britton
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Joey Hess wrote: > Britton wrote: > > I don't like this. The pages listed will end up being wrong half the time > > and google can find homepages very well and everybody knows it, so what is > > the point in adding this? > > Well we already have the links in the copyright fil

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Joey Hess
Britton wrote: > I don't like this. The pages listed will end up being wrong half the time > and google can find homepages very well and everybody knows it, so what is > the point in adding this? Well we already have the links in the copyright files now, so if they're going to be wrong half the t

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Joey Hess
Denis Barbier wrote: > For translators having a development URL is also useful, because they can > then send up to date translations; it was said that it is then available > from package homepage, but some packages have no homepage and have a > public CVS repository. I'm not sure what a "developme

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Joey Hess
Adam DiCarlo wrote: > Huh. I'll have to play around with this. I would indeed rather use a > field, even a custom field, if possible, since this is really data. > > I'm hearing just go with homepage only, no other data really > needed. I'll make that change. > > > The point was validly raised i

Bug#172022: FWD: Re: description writing guide

2002-12-09 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 09:06:50PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: ... > +The single line synopsis > > > The single line synopsis should be kept brief - certainly > @@ -2397,6 +2421,10 @@ > informative as you can. > I think "short" or "single line" is

Bug#172436: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] web browser url viewing

2002-12-09 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 10:14 am, Tuesday, December 10 2002, Joey Hess mumbled: > As discussed earlier on this list, and now implemented by lots of stuff > in Debian[2] and with only a few to go[3], I'm proposing that the > following be added to policy around section 12.4: > > Web browsers > > > So

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 01:17:28PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote: > > The point was validly raised in a previous thread that using these means > > changing packages twice in the event that dpkg is eventually changed. > > That I don't follow. Scenario: we start using XK- now, then wait for it to becom

Bug#172436: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] web browser url viewing

2002-12-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 05:50:26PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Web browsers > > > Some programs have the ability to launch a web browser to display an URL. > Since there are lots of different web browsers available in the Debian > distribution, the system administrator and eac

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:28:46PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: [...] > I doubt that translators will need to extract such information in an > automatic manner. If these informations were available, http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po// could point to CVS files instead of released ones. And as

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:49:55PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 04:30:30PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote: > [...] > > I don't think think this level of information for > > developers/contributors is appropriate for debian/control and pkg > > info. It's audience is too limited

Re: Putting .so symlinks in libs package for dlopen()ing?

2002-12-09 Thread Brian May
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:26:14AM +1100, Timshel Knoll wrote: > 1. Put the .so symlinks in the libreiserfs-0.3-0 package. This breaks >policy (section 9.0 says that the associated development package >should contain the shared library without a version number). This is >also a really b

Bug#172436: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] web browser url viewing

2002-12-09 Thread Joey Hess
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.8.0 Severity: normal As discussed earlier on this list, and now implemented by lots of stuff in Debian[2] and with only a few to go[3], I'm proposing that the following be added to policy around section 12.4: Web browsers Some programs have

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 04:30:30PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote: [...] > I don't think think this level of information for > developers/contributors is appropriate for debian/control and pkg > info. It's audience is too limited for the amount of bloat this will > add to the repository. > If anything,

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Adam DiCarlo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Denis Barbier) writes: > For translators having a development URL is also useful, because they can > then send up to date translations; it was said that it is then available > from package homepage, but some packages have no homepage and have a > public CVS repository. > It woul

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Adam DiCarlo
Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't like this. The pages listed will end up being wrong half > the time Then file a minor bug. Half the time is a bit overstating, no? > and google can find homepages very well and everybody knows > it, so what is the point in adding this? Can you say

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Chris Waters
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 12:31:48PM -0900, Britton wrote: > I don't like this. The pages listed will end up being wrong half the time I think you exaggerate. Especially since this is optional (it's going in devel-ref as part of best-practices, not in policy as a requirement). So, if the maintai

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Britton
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 01:17:28PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote: > [...] > > Huh. I'll have to play around with this. I would indeed rather use a > > field, even a custom field, if possible, since this is really data. > > > > I'm hearing just go with home

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 01:17:28PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote: [...] > Huh. I'll have to play around with this. I would indeed rather use a > field, even a custom field, if possible, since this is really data. > > I'm hearing just go with homepage only, no other data really > needed. I'll make th

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Adam DiCarlo
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 09:43:00PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote: > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > We could just use the existing support for user-defined fields for a > > > while though. > > > > Oh ! Where can I read about these? They ar

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Re: [devel-ref, draft 2] homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 08:28, Josip Rodin wrote: > The screenshot thing is often not handy, so I wouldn't waste much time about > that... Just thought I'd point out that at least the Lindows people appear to have screenshots on their packages page: http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_details.

Re: [devel-ref, draft 2] homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 01:17:51AM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote: > Ok, here's my revision from suggestions. Added a screenshot link, > what the hell, it's all optional anyhow, and it's kinda a cute idea. > > We recommend that you add the URL for the package's homepage to > the package desc

Re: [devel-ref, draft 2] homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Chris Waters
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:57:51AM +0100, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: > I think we don't really need the Screenshot [...] I agree. It's even *less* useful than Author, which I also don't think we need. > Upstream source [...] information [is] already available The "Homepage" is not n

Re: Putting .so symlinks in libs package for dlopen()ing?

2002-12-09 Thread Yury Umanets
Daniel Burrows wrote: On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 04:01:29PM +1100, Andrew Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 02:02:12AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: I don't see why this is a problem, you'd only need to change the dlopen() code if there's a SONAME

Re: Putting .so symlinks in libs package for dlopen()ing?

2002-12-09 Thread Yury Umanets
Timshel Knoll wrote: [Please CC all replies to me] Hi all, I'm having issues with getting parted's reiserfs support to work in a way that complies with Debian policy. The issue is that parted dlopen()s libreiserfs.so and libdal.so (from the libreiserfs-0.3-{0,dev} packages) for its reiserfs su

Re: [devel-ref, draft 2] homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 01:17:51AM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote: > Homepage: http://some-project.some-place.org/ > Screenshot: http://some-project.some-place.org/ I think we don't really need the Screenshot by now (even if i've to admit it's nice idea). Upstream source and au

Re: [devel-ref] author/homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 09:43:00PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > We could just use the existing support for user-defined fields for a > > while though. > > Oh ! Where can I read about these? They aren't mentioned in > deb-control(5) or /usr/share/doc/d

Re: should XML/SGML documentation ship with sources

2002-12-09 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 04:32:10PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote: > > I have a question for further discussion, which I'm unsure about. May > or may not be a policy issue. > > Is it a good practice for SGML or XML documentation to ship with > source? > I think you have retracted the question (i.e.

Re: [devel-ref, draft 2] homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Adam DiCarlo
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Adam DiCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ok, here's my revision from suggestions. Added a screenshot link, > > what the hell, it's all optional anyhow, and it's kinda a cute idea. > > Err, do we have to? I can see the value in a homepage URL (or

Re: [devel-ref, draft 2] homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread James Troup
Adam DiCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ok, here's my revision from suggestions. Added a screenshot link, > what the hell, it's all optional anyhow, and it's kinda a cute idea. Err, do we have to? I can see the value in a homepage URL (or at least why other people see the value in it) but a

[devel-ref, draft 2] homepage in description

2002-12-09 Thread Adam DiCarlo
Ok, here's my revision from suggestions. Added a screenshot link, what the hell, it's all optional anyhow, and it's kinda a cute idea. We recommend that you add the URL for the package's homepage to the package description in 'debian/control', and a link to a screenshot, if one is

Re: should XML/SGML documentation ship with sources

2002-12-09 Thread Adam DiCarlo
Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >- It would in theory let software like doc-base dynamically generate > the documentation formats the user desires after installation. The more I think about this idea of building on install, though, the more I think it's completely insane. At least