Re: missing FHS archives

2000-01-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 12:55:49AM -0800, Jonathan Walther wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Instead of being slammed for inventing conspiracies where none would exist, > I would be perfectly happy to be proven wrong by someone providing > a link to such archives. As so many of you

Re: missing FHS archives

2000-01-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jonathan Walther wrote: > Instead of being slammed for inventing conspiracies where none would exist, > I would be perfectly happy to be proven wrong by someone providing > a link to such archives. As so many of you eloquently put, my comments > about /usr/libexec make me seem like an i

Re: policy summary [http_proxy]

2000-01-24 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 23, Nicolás Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Http_proxy and web clients (#54524) > Nobody else want this? I thought we all agreed on this one... I'd like to see that in policy, but only if the programs use $no_proxy as well. -- ciao, Marco

Re: missing FHS archives

2000-01-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 12:55:49AM -0800, Jonathan Walther wrote: > If I could see the archives, I WOULD research this before posting. So > far I have mostly a gut feeling that /usr/libexec is elegant. > /usr/lib for libraries! It just seems so confusing to be mixing up > executable programs with

Re: missing FHS archives

2000-01-24 Thread Jonathan Walther
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Instead of being slammed for inventing conspiracies where none would exist, I would be perfectly happy to be proven wrong by someone providing a link to such archives. As so many of you eloquently put, my comments about /usr/libexec make me seem like an idiot be

Re: Custom undocumented(7)s are just as bad.

2000-01-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Jonathan Walther writes: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > So what will it take to get the FHS ammended to add libexec in? It > seems like a major oversight. Why? Please justify this. Matthew -- "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." "True. I just wish I'd brought a padd

Re: Custom undocumented(7)s are just as bad.

2000-01-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Jonathan Walther writes: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > I think its time we created /usr/libexec as all real Unixes do instead of > an endless succession of /usr/lib/program-foo directories. Why? Matthew -- "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." "True. I just wish I'd

Re: Custom undocumented(7)s are just as bad.

2000-01-24 Thread David Weinehall
On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Jonathan Walther wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > I think its time we created /usr/libexec as all real Unixes do instead of > an endless succession of /usr/lib/program-foo directories. Please define "real Unixes"... AIX doesn't have /usr/libexec SunOS/Solaris

Re: Custom undocumented(7)s are just as bad.

2000-01-24 Thread Steve Greenland
On 23-Jan-00, 20:17 (CST), Jonathan Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think its time we created /usr/libexec as all real Unixes do instead of > an endless succession of /usr/lib/program-foo directories. You'd prefer an endless succession of /usr/libexec/program-foo? Or you want to double or

Re: missing FHS archives

2000-01-24 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Jan 23, 2000 at 06:48:56PM -0800, Jonathan Walther wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Web searches don't seem to pull up any archives of the fhs-discuss mailing > list. Is this some private secret list or something? I thought this was > an "open" process? > > Jonathan Yeah

missing FHS archives

2000-01-24 Thread Jonathan Walther
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Web searches don't seem to pull up any archives of the fhs-discuss mailing list. Is this some private secret list or something? I thought this was an "open" process? Jonathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOIu9mcK9HT/Yf

Bug#54524: http_proxy and web clients.

2000-01-24 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > Note that I'm not sure setting things in /etc/environment (or /etc/profile, > > which is a worse idea) really works the way it should. does it override the > > users' preferences saved in their dotfiles? That would be wrong. > > Oh yes -- thank goodness policy forbids such nastiness -- other l

Bug#54524: http_proxy and web clients.

2000-01-24 Thread Seth R Arnold
On Sun, Jan 23, 2000 at 09:10:10PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote: [...] > Note that I'm not sure setting things in /etc/environment (or /etc/profile, > which is a worse idea) really works the way it should. does it override the > users' preferences saved in their dotfiles? That would be wrong. Oh yes --

Bug#54524: http_proxy and web clients.

2000-01-24 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > > I don't think so - indeed policy says that packages shouldn't depend > > > on environment variables for their correct behaviour(3.9). I don't > > > disagree that http_proxy as an environment variable is common > > > practice, but I do disagree strongly that this should be made policy - > > >

Re: Custom undocumented(7)s are just as bad.

2000-01-24 Thread Jonathan Walther
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- So what will it take to get the FHS ammended to add libexec in? It seems like a major oversight. On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > Jonathan Walther wrote: > > I think its time we created /usr/libexec as all real Unixes do instead of > > an endless success

Re: Custom undocumented(7)s are just as bad.

2000-01-24 Thread Joey Hess
Jonathan Walther wrote: > I think its time we created /usr/libexec as all real Unixes do instead of > an endless succession of /usr/lib/program-foo directories. The FHS does not specifiy a /usr/libexec directory; adding one would violate it. -- see shy jo

Bug#54524: http_proxy and web clients.

2000-01-24 Thread Greg Stark
> > I don't think so - indeed policy says that packages shouldn't depend > > on environment variables for their correct behaviour(3.9). I don't > > disagree that http_proxy as an environment variable is common > > practice, but I do disagree strongly that this should be made policy - > > you'd hav

Re: Custom undocumented(7)s are just as bad.

2000-01-24 Thread Jonathan Walther
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I think its time we created /usr/libexec as all real Unixes do instead of an endless succession of /usr/lib/program-foo directories. On 23 Jan 2000, Chris Waters wrote: > OTOH, you can write a quick-and-dirty man page that says, "this > program is not intended t

packaging manual (was Re: policy summary)

2000-01-24 Thread Chris Waters
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Previously Chris Waters wrote: > > And IIRC, it's not really a policy change; the bug was filed against > > the packaging manual, no? Should it even be on this list? > Both are maintained by the same group and have the same versionnumber, > so in th

Re: policy summary

2000-01-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Chris Waters wrote: > And IIRC, it's not really a policy change; the bug was filed against > the packaging manual, no? Should it even be on this list? Both are maintained by the same group and have the same versionnumber, so in this case the difference is moot. Wichert. -- __