On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 12:43:33PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 11:21:45AM +0100, Andreas Bresser wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > The upstream-author of my package "spe" uploaded a new release on
> > berlios.de (on sourceforge is still the old version), so I changed the
> > debi
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 11:17:29AM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 01:46:37PM +0100, Andreas Bresser wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > so is it enought when I update my package manually using uupdate and
> > create a watch file that looks like you suggested?
> > (because that line does
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 07:10:17PM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:
> > 2) Is it possible to use a different action than uupdate, e.g. `fakeroot
> > debian/rules get-orig-source'?
>
> And this too. Seems to be impossible atm. Would be a nice-to-have for
> me.
$ cat debian/get-source
#! /bin/sh
fakero
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 12:30:41AM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:
> > > > 2) Is it possible to use a different action than uupdate, e.g. `fakeroot
> > > > debian/rules get-orig-source'?
>
> Nice idea. Unfortunately
>
> uscan --force-download
>
> does not call the script. Instead it tries to get th
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OK, I've sussed it: lintian 0.9.3 doesn't know about Debian Standards
version 2.5.0.0.
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> On Thu, Nov 12, 1998 at 04:20:35PM +0000, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > Help! I just ran lintian on my first package and got the error:
> >
> > E: cweb source: newer-standards-version 2.5.0
>
> Hmm. I haven't seen you announce taking over cweb. I was thinking of
&
/usr/doc/sgb/examples, since they are somewhere between examples
and the documentation?
My gut feeling is to go for /usr/lib/sgb, but I would like advice
before I proceed.
Thanks,
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> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian
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> > I am trying to repackage a new upstream Stanford GraphBase (sgb). I
> > would like to include the source code in the .deb package, as the
> > value of the included programs is
> Adam Di Carlo wrote:
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> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Gilbey) writes:
> > >[Me]
> > >> Hmm. Interesting. So how do you use it? You *extend* the library?
> > >> Or you just read about it? ;)
> >
er
things, it would mean that changes in the package wouldn't require
users to download the (unchanged) upstream sources again, and those
who have the book wouldn't need to download the sources.
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so that you match the entire line.
Julian
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master (dinstall) in the near future
if a closes: type comment is placed in the changelog. I am
working on that one.]
HTH,
Julian
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ely new to this game!)
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Gilbey) writes:
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> > (4) cd .. and then run: lintian foobar_1.1-4.changes. If there are
> > any errors (shown with E: and non-zero exit code; don't worry
> > about E: newer-standards-version if it comes up), go back to step
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nitially):
Note that deb-make is deprecated. Have a look at the debhelper and
dh-make packages instead.
Julian
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> On Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 06:33:59PM +0000, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > > I didn't add `Section' and `Priority' lines for the binary package
> > > (because deb-make didn't put it in initially):
> >
> > Note that deb-make is deprecated. Have a l
./myhello
Hello world!
/tmp$
If that doesn't work, let me know. The gcc program has many options,
which you can find out about using the info reader.
Julian
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bian one will
remain as long as you are with the project.
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pgp package, copy the
~/.pgp/secring.pgp to ~/.pgp/secring.skr and see whether it works. It
should do. It's much easier than trying to hack dpkg-buildpackage to
work with pgp5, which Debian is moving away from anyway.
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... option).
So read: Install libtricks and run debuild to build your package.
See debuild(1) for more details
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lt; s)?
>
> Thanks.
Could you not simply say that your package conflicts with all versions
<= s and be done with it? Assuming that a working version >s exists,
this would surely be the easiest way?
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Also, as >50% of Debian packages now use debhelper, you should be in
safe hands.
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behind Debian?, maybe on the developer
pages of www.debian.org), there is a list of the packages maintained
by the various developers. Just point your potential employers at
that page ;-)
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tored in the CVS tree.
You couldn't possibly have this flexibility if you only stored the
Debian diffs.
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for file in `find samples -type f`; do \
install -m 644 $$file $(tmp)/usr/doc/$(pkg)/examples; \
done
with a *double* dollar before file.
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e if the building depended upon it.
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> Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > > But now: How do I put the additional Debian-Logo (only 2k) into the
> > > diff file ???Can I rely on the sharutils package though it is only
> > > "standard" and not "essential" ?
earn how to package software.
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s in -mentors,
perhaps in -devel.
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of a .deb, but it
is absolutely necessary.
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is the obvious DFSG problem of making dpkg depend on PGP -- this
may actually be a very good opportunity to begin working towards GnuPG
by having the signatures be GnuPG ones.
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I want.
Does anyone have any suggestions of how this can be handled gracefully?
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> >> "JG" == Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> JG> contains lots of symlinks. I usually use the CVS suite to do my
> JG> packaging, but by default, CVS does not handle symlinks.
>
> But it can be configured to creat them on export
, both to a person and a machine.
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ecimal point, so
1.1 and 1.10 are the same numerically!
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> I wrote:
> > The leading zero is clearly intended to imply a decimal point.
>
> Julian Gilbey writes:
> > Erm, by extension, we would have 1.11 < 1.2 if the "." is interpreted as
> > a decimal point, but 1.11 > 1.2 if it is a major/minor separator.
be 1:1.2.0 and so forth.
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> On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 01:31:52AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > Another possibility is the following. Increase the epoch at this
> > point to 1 (so you would have version 1:1.1), but from now on use a
> > triple version number, thus: this release will be 1:1.1.0 or 1:1.
package dbuild, very nice, install it and then run :
Third way: use the debuild program in the devscripts package (which
you are advised to download from unstable -- much improved version).
Julian
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think Joey was complaining about the language: "orphan and remove":
this package is not a totally new package, rather it replaces the
others. So you upload your new package, which conflicts, provides and
replaces the old ones, and then file a bug against ftp.debian.org
asking for removal of
for perusal if the above doesn't help? Or give a URL from where they
can be downloaded.
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re.in, Makefile.am and debian/rules
> > for perusal if the above doesn't help? Or give a URL from where they
> > can be downloaded.
>
> Sure. Go to http://www.tailrecursion.com/libaccounting/
Sorry to not be more helpful :(
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n, not the slink version.)
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one it -- can't give more advice.
HTH,
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t; with a space.
Hey -- who said you were allowed to use emacs?! Next, you'll be
wanting to use Perl as well... ;-)
Long live ed!
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mething silly here?
You could change the icondir line in Makefile.in to read
icondir=${prefix}/share/icons
and your problem will be solved. Seems like it's a bug in the
Makefile.in.
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install the necessary symlink into the right /etc/rc?.d
directories.
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gt; >
>
> rcS.d is the correct place.
No it isn't. /etc/init.d is the correct place, with a symlink from
/etc/rcS.d.
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> Julian Gilbey writes:
> > /etc/rc.boot is deprecated.
>
> >From debian-policy (2.5.1.0, current according to apt):
>
> 3.3.4. Boot-time initialization
> ---
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> There is another directory, `/etc/rc.boot', which cont
u mustn't
assume that the update-rc.d program works in the same way on all
system setups.
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ppropiate documentation.
To use a wrong version number without asking is stupid. Asking isn't.
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perfectly.
HTH,
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command in debian/rules? If so, would it be worth noting
this in the Perl policy? Also, I presume that the shared libraries
should then be stripped.
Julian
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working. (And it would be a good
plus point for your application!)
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her workaround is to define the environment variable POSIXLY_CORRECT.
But be careful, as that could cause all manner of other problems where
the non-POSIX behaviour is assumed. (Just consider echo -n, for
example)
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else rm /var/lib/games/mylog
fi
fi
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> Hi,
> On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Julian Gilbey wrote:
>
> > All that debhelper will do is to place appropriate lines in the
> > postinst to handle "standard" things such as info file installation,
> > window manager installation, suidregister and so forth. As
code
> dpkg-buildpackage: no source included in upload
It looks like the script has completed quite happily. You should
surely find that you now have a file ../ean13_0.4-3_i386.deb present?
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many
months ago?
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> On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 02:27:51PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > Incidentally, for debhelper to put *anything* in a maintainer script
> > ({pre,post}{inst,rm}), you need to have at least the following minimal
> > script:
> >
> > #! /bin/sh
> >
> &
> On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:27:51 +0100 (BST), Julian Gilbey
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
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> > postinst:
> > -
> > #! /bin/sh
>
> One is supposed to use the -e switch here, or to set it from inside.
igure the
> window manager fvwm2. It requires fvwm2, perl, perltk.
> Colors, fonts, images, etc., can be browsed and applied
> to decorations drawn on application windows.
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sume, BTW, that the phone call will happen
at a sensible time for you.)
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Free Software
Guidelines). If you wish to make your phone number available to other
developers, you can do so at https://db.debian.org/ once you are a
developer.
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ual. Will be corrected:
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l necessary
packages for compiling a C program, and will suggest others that might
be helpful.
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e hints as to what is happening.
If that doesn't help, just rm -f the extra copy just before you
finally build the package.
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> Dear Mentor List;
'debian-mentors' is for technical help for packaging software for the
Debian distribution. 'debian-user' is for usage questions. I am
copying your mail there. You will probably get much more help from
them.
Julian
> I would like to apologize for my previous mail whe
* in the
postinst/postrm maintainer scripts
- /etc/rc.boot is obsolete
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the files from the remote machine, signing them locally and
copying them back.
Enjoy!
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HTH,
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x27;t yet have versioned Provides AFAIK, so you can't yet say
tclsh (>= 8.0).
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6 < 52. See the packaging manual, section 5. Your solution seems
reasonable if the intention is that 0.52 < 0.6.
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er /usr/bin/jwhois
HTH,
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On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 08:32:39PM +0100, peter karlsson wrote:
> Julian Gilbey:
>
> > chmod 2755 /usr/bin/jwhois
>
> I can't seem to get this (+chown) past. I'm creating the package using
> fakeroot, which might be the problem.
fakeroot shouldn't
's the [...]? What do you see if you do
ls -l debian/tmp/usr/bin/jwhois
*immediately* before dh_suidregister? Is something in [...] (such as
dh_fixperms) changing the permissions?
Julian
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On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 12:58:17PM +0100, peter karlsson wrote:
> Julian Gilbey:
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> > Is something in [...] (such as dh_fixperms) changing the permissions?
>
> Ah! dh_fixperms did indeed fiddle with the permissions, after moving the
> chmod downwards it works just fine. Tha
Package: debhelper
Version: 2.0.74
On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 12:26:50PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> >>>>> "Julian" == Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Julian> Note the dh_fixperms is at the end of this sequence, and
> Julian>
ore suidregister. You make this change, you break
> that. It works nicely :) Don't break it :) It's not broken, and this is not
> a fix.
Ah, I see. I jumped too quickly.
Am closing this "bug" report.
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# You may want to make some executables suid here.
dh_suidregister
[...]
The comment is part of the example
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we have a
PAMified xlock.)
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12.
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ngs about
being unable to locate the package containing
/usr/local/.../debian/libepplet0/usr/lib/libepplet.so.0.
Can't win!
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iner field of the control file
of the package. "Different" is a string comparison, I believe.
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in
favour of /var/lib.
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ou should be using /usr/share/ and
/usr/local/share/ rather than the lib directories.
What happens if the sysadmin installs the package and isn't interested
in customising it for the users? Is there a default dataset? Is
there a search path to look through?
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On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 11:34:23PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Disclaimer: IATTIMS
??
> On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > Your package should make no assumptions about the existence of
> > /usr/local; it's entirely at the discretion of the sysadmin what
y own method (I have
> some good ideas on how to do this), but thought this was a common
> situation...
I believe that debconf does, indeed, address all three issues. I
haven't yet converted my packages to use debconf, though, so I can't
help further.
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On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 08:12:07PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > You can get rid of this warning by using
> > dh_shlibdeps -l`pwd`/debian/libepplet0/usr/lib
> > for then the directory name will be absolute (and dpkg-shlibdeps
> > expects this).
AN_SCRIPT_DEBUG" ]
then
echo=echo
else
echo=:
fi
Then use $echo everywhere.
Alternatively, use something like:
if ...; then echo(){ command echo "$@"; } ; else echo(){ } ; fi
and then use echo normally from then on.
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script that gets called
> with "purge".
>
> Any ideas ?
dpkg bug. Don't worry about it.
One thought, though: has the directory actually disappeared at the end
of the dpkg run?
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updating,
but I haven't had the chance recently -- should change in a few weeks,
I hope).
Julian
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On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 05:30:03PM +0100, Holger Eitzenberger wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:10:21PM +0000, Julian Gilbey wrote:
>
> > > generate the source package, binary packages and the .changes file with
> > > one command:
> > > dpkg-buildpackage [-rfak
ptions?
uuencode (or tar.gz them and then uuencode the .tar.gz) the binary
files before creating the package. Then uudecode them in the rules
file.
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the control file. Not the whole file.
Julian
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