Re: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti

2001-06-07 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
--- Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > > Have not managed to package Pango - can anyone > assist me in finding > > out what is going wrong? Basically the package > failed the install > > stage of the rules script if installed usi

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
--- Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Michèl" == Michèl Alexandre Salim > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And if you come up with a clean solution for the > changelog issue, I > agree this is worth doing. If you do that, please > let me know what > your solution is. > As Richard Atter

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread Richard Atterer
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 06:31:54PM +0100, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: [debian/ in upstream makes maintaining package difficult] > The reason I raise this issue in the first place is actually a > notion that it would be nice for users wanting bleeding-edge > software to update from CVS and just ru

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

2001-06-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:17:01 +0100, Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 11:01:22AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> >And if it's a wrapper >> >script, wouldn't it be a lot better to have the wrapper in /usr/bin, >> >with the real program called something like foo.real, and j

Re: Fwd: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti

2001-06-07 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
--- Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Christian Marillat > > | MAS> Indeed, but for package naming purpose I > guess calling > | MAS> them libglib2 and libgtk2 would work. > | > | I disagree. The API may change between 1.3.5 and > 2.0 > > Please LART upstream heavily and give the p

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
--- Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 11:40:26PM -0300, Henrique > de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > files there. Even if > > upstream keeps its debian/ up-to-date, it will > still cause you trouble if > > you have to remove a file, as you'll need to > either use dirty tr

Status update: GLib/GTK+ 1.3 CVS

2001-06-07 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
Hello, A brief follow-up to my post last weekend. The current status of my test packages are as follows: GLib - packages created. RFC - I am not a seasoned developer (yet!), any advice more than welcome. Gtk-doc - needed if you want to recompile GNOME CVS modules (including GLib). I have package

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

2001-06-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:12:19 +0100, Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Why not just /etc/foorc or /etc/foo.conf or something like that? Because the conffile is not a "real" conffile, but rather a shell script being sourced in, and /etc/foo.conf will probably suggest that this conffile is an

Re: How to handle ´/etc/ld.so.preload library packages?

2001-06-07 Thread Simon Richter
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Marc Haber wrote: > I have a package with a library that needs to be entered to > /etc/ld.so.preload. It is clear that this library needs to go in /lib > rather than /usr/lib because there are systems that have /usr on a > dedicated partition. Are you sure that *every* program

Re: Adding device file to /dev.

2001-06-07 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Monday 04 June 2001 00:59, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 02:37:19PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > > Another thing any package that depends on the creation of nodes under > > > /dev MUST depend on "makedev | devfsd". People who ru

Re: How to handle ´/etc/ld.so.preload library packages ?

2001-06-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:32:25 +0200 (CEST), Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Marc Haber wrote: >> I have a package with a library that needs to be entered to >> /etc/ld.so.preload. It is clear that this library needs to go in /lib >> rather than /usr/lib because there are

ITP: gphoto2 -- digital camera library (conflict with libusb0)

2001-06-07 Thread Ole Aamot
I am not a Debian maintainer yet. I signed up to become a Debian maintainer in order to maintain gphoto2, and started the process of becoming one around January, but I could not complete the "skill" tests due to lack of time and a publicly available version of gphoto2, at that time. So my applica

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

2001-06-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 09:34:37 +0100, Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Because the conffile is not a "real" conffile, but rather a shell >> script being sourced in, and /etc/foo.conf will probably suggest that >> this conffile is an upstream feature. > >When you say "shell script", do you m

Re: Fwd: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti

2001-06-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Christian Marillat | MAS> Indeed, but for package naming purpose I guess calling | MAS> them libglib2 and libgtk2 would work. | | I disagree. The API may change between 1.3.5 and 2.0 GTK has a very, very broken versioning. There is no connection between the soname of a library and the versio

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 08:43:56AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:12:19 +0100, Julian Gilbey > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Why not just /etc/foorc or /etc/foo.conf or something like that? > > Because the conffile is not a "real" conffile, but rather a shell > script being sourc

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 10:31:18AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > Hi, > > let's say I have a package foo with a binary foo. The author suggests > the one should have a shell script wrapper to be able to call the foo > binary with the appropriate options. I want to do so in my package. > > - Have the

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Michèl" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Michèl> The reason I raise this issue in the first place is Michèl> actually a notion that it would be nice for users wanting Michèl> bleeding-edge software to update from CVS and just run Michèl> debian/ru

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

2001-06-07 Thread Joey Hess
Marc Haber wrote: > This is the way to do it for an init script. Is it OK to have a file > in /etc/default that does not provider defaults for an init script > but for an executeable called by users? I don't know. I don't see a lot of advantage over just putting the conffile in /etc. There is so

Re: How to handle ´/etc/ld.so.preload library packages?

2001-06-07 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (2) > Ask the user if I should add the lib to /etc/ld.so.preload in the > postinst and automatically remove the entry in prerm? Does order in > /etc/ld.so.preload matter? I'd guess that order is significant if more than one preloaded lib defines the same s

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Michèl" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michèl> Hello, A general observation of Unix programs in general - Michèl> a lot more of them come with RPM spec files, even Michèl> generates them automatically from a spec.in file, than Michèl> with debian scrip

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 04:40:06PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 11:01:22AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > >> >And if it's a wrapper > >> >script, wouldn't it be a lot better to have the wrapper in /usr/bin, > >> >with the real program called something like foo.real, and just the

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 11:01:22AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > If you want to > >make it clear that it's a Debian-specific thing, surely you can put a > >note to that effect at the top of the file? > > Never underestimate the user's stupidity. I don't, but how will the location and user's (sysad

Re: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti

2001-06-07 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Have another problem though, when building libpango0 dpkg-gencontrol > complained thus: > > dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution > variable ${shlibs:Depends} The line dh_shlibdeps -plibpango$(version) should generate either s

How to handle ´/etc/ld.so.preload library packages?

2001-06-07 Thread Marc Haber
I have a package with a library that needs to be entered to /etc/ld.so.preload. It is clear that this library needs to go in /lib rather than /usr/lib because there are systems that have /usr on a dedicated partition. But how do I handle the entry to /etc/ld.so.preload? There are packages that lea

Looking for Advocate, Sponsor

2001-06-07 Thread Mabe, David, M \(Dave\)
Debian Mentors: I am looking for a sponsor/advocate for becoming a debian developer. I am packaging misterhouse, a home automation package written in perl. I have signed up at http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/. The misterhouse debian package can be found at http://www.running

Re: first questions

2001-06-07 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Andreas Bombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's just that making the package non-native makes it easier to > handle unless it's really a native package (i.e. written > specifically for Debian). YMMV, obviously. I find it easier to maintain quintuple-agent without Debian subversions; "native" if

porting problem and how to request help

2001-06-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Some weeks ago I received Bug#96254 on one of my package: ocaml-xstr, the problem is a build failure on a m68k machine. The reason is that a package needed in ocaml-xstr compilation named ocaml-findlib, does not work well on a m68k architecture. I forwarded the problem to the upstream author and I

Re: ITP: gphoto2 -- digital camera library (conflict with libusb0)

2001-06-07 Thread sharkey
> I put it in contrib, since the licensing is a bit unclear. It probably > belongs in main. The LGPL core do dynamically loading of GPL drivers - > without explicit notice that that is allowed. There's no license conflict there. The GPL only allows linking with other code under the GPL, but the

Re: porting problem and how to request help

2001-06-07 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 07:51:08PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Some weeks ago I received Bug#96254 on one of my package: ocaml-xstr, > the problem is a build failure on a m68k machine. The reason is that a > package needed in ocaml-xstr compilation named ocaml-findlib, does not > work well o

Re: porting problem and how to request help

2001-06-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Stefano Zacchiroli | How can I solve the problem? May I ask for help on debian-devel or on | debian-m68k ML? That is one of the ways of doing it, yes. m68k would probably be best. | Cause the problem is related to another package, may I close the bug on | ocaml-xstr and fill a new one agains

Re: Fwd: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti

2001-06-07 Thread Paolo Molaro
On 06/05/01 Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: > > Please LART upstream heavily and give the packages a > > proper name. That > > tradition has done it wrong is no reason to continue > > doing it the > > wrong way. The version numbering used upstream is completely reasonable: check the archives for th

Re: porting problem and how to request help

2001-06-07 Thread T.Pospisek's MailLists
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Some weeks ago I received Bug#96254 on one of my package: ocaml-xstr, > the problem is a build failure on a m68k machine. The reason is that a > package needed in ocaml-xstr compilation named ocaml-findlib, does not > work well on a m68k architecture

Re: porting problem and how to request help

2001-06-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 02:04:33PM +0200, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote: > The quick and ugly way is of course to build a new debian package > that excludes m68k from the supported architectures. That's not very nice. ocaml-findlib is genuinely broken on m68k. I verified it myself. However since I

Re: porting problem and how to request help

2001-06-07 Thread T.Pospisek's MailLists
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 02:04:33PM +0200, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote: > > The quick and ugly way is of course to build a new debian package > > that excludes m68k from the supported architectures. > > That's not very nice. ocaml-findlib is genuinely br

Re: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti

2001-06-07 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
--- Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The line > dh_shlibdeps -plibpango$(version) > should generate either substvars or > libpango0.substvars. If it does, > dh_gencontrol is for some reason not picking that > up. If it doesn't it > is either broken, or libpango0 does not depe

Re: Fwd: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti

2001-06-07 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
--- Paolo Molaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that probably all the gtk 1.3.x releases will > be incompatible, > so the package names should include also the micro > number. > Makes sense, I'll do just that. Thanks, Michel Do Y

Sponsoring, signing, etc.

2001-06-07 Thread Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona
Hi, I'm going to sponsor a guy who has already completed a package which seems to be in good shape. It is my first sponsorship, and I'd like to upload his package. Now the questions: - Should he register somewhere as a sponsored guy? (some time ago, when I was sponsored before entering Debian, I

Re: Sponsoring, signing, etc.

2001-06-07 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 05:48:46PM +0200, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona wrote: > I'm going to sponsor a guy who has already completed a package which > seems to be in good shape. It is my first sponsorship, and I'd like to > upload his package. Now the questions: > > - Should he register somewhere a

Re: Fwd: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti

2001-06-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Paolo Molaro wrote: > On 06/05/01 Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: > > > Please LART upstream heavily and give the packages a > > > proper name. That > > > tradition has done it wrong is no reason to continue > > > doing it the > > > wrong way. > The version numbering used upstr

Re: Should libfile-temp-perl be removed ?

2001-06-07 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 10:31:03AM +0100, Jon Middleton wrote: >[ I'm CC'ing debian-perl in-case the Perl Maintainer's have any views, I >guess any other discussion should happen there ] > >OK, I'll file a bug against ftp.debian.org acessing for libfile-temp-perl's >removal after perl-modules 5.6.1

Have X11/app-defaults moved in unstable?

2001-06-07 Thread Christoph Baumann
Hi! May I have missed something and in unstable /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults moved to /etc/X11/app-defaults? My package actually doesn't use app-defaults. I noticed this when I compiled a package from unstable on my stable box and got error messages on a missing file in app-defaults. Christoph --

Re: Have X11/app-defaults moved in unstable?

2001-06-07 Thread T.Pospisek's MailLists
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Christoph Baumann wrote: > [..] have [..] /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults [..] moved to > /etc/X11/app-defaults? yes. *t Tomas Pospisek SourcePole - Linux & Open Source Solutio

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread tytso
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 04:01:20AM +0100, Mich?l Alexandre Salim wrote: > Rather a neat idea. And certainly I have seen it > implemented - for Enlightenment 0.17 CVS for instance. > It is still the duty of the Debian maintainer to make > sure the Debian version of the scripts conform to > Debian sp

Re: Have X11/app-defaults moved in unstable?

2001-06-07 Thread Colin Watson
Christoph Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >May I have missed something and in unstable /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults >moved to /etc/X11/app-defaults? My package actually doesn't use >app-defaults. I noticed this when I compiled a package from unstable on >my stable box and got error messages on a mi

Re: Have X11/app-defaults moved in unstable?

2001-06-07 Thread Colin Watson
Christoph Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >May I have missed something and in unstable /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults >moved to /etc/X11/app-defaults? My package actually doesn't use >app-defaults. I noticed this when I compiled a package from unstable on >my stable box and got error messages on a m

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread tytso
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 04:01:20AM +0100, Mich?l Alexandre Salim wrote: > Rather a neat idea. And certainly I have seen it > implemented - for Enlightenment 0.17 CVS for instance. > It is still the duty of the Debian maintainer to make > sure the Debian version of the scripts conform to > Debian s

Re: Have X11/app-defaults moved in unstable?

2001-06-07 Thread T.Pospisek's MailLists
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Christoph Baumann wrote: > [..] have [..] /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults [..] moved to > /etc/X11/app-defaults? yes. *t Tomas Pospisek SourcePole - Linux & Open Source Soluti

Have X11/app-defaults moved in unstable?

2001-06-07 Thread Christoph Baumann
Hi! May I have missed something and in unstable /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults moved to /etc/X11/app-defaults? My package actually doesn't use app-defaults. I noticed this when I compiled a package from unstable on my stable box and got error messages on a missing file in app-defaults. Christoph --