l a
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I would still recommend to look at the full license before a decision is
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to do (expempting distributions, and not
allowing just to sell rpl), it will be non-free. Except if he is very
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:44:17AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> I will keep contact. Maybe you will see contrib packages based on the SAP DB
> source and the Binary Build Environemnt before you will see DFSG compliant
> packages.
Packages in contrib have to be dsg free. Non-dfsg free software g
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 03:05:08PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 02:56:34PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:44:17AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> > > I will keep contact. Maybe you will see contrib packages based on the S
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 07:14:14PM -0500, Clark Rawlins wrote:
> Suppose the author of a program publishes a program and the interface
> to a set of plug in libraries for that program that allows third parties
> to extend the program using dynamic linking. Lets say for the sake of
> argument tha
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 10:23:09AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> >> Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Copyright law is not concerned about that, and the question if
> > something is a derived work from something else has nothing to do
>
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 01:17:12AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Okay, so if nobody has hints for me, I will upload to main soon with the
> following copyright:
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On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:38:33PM -0500, Shaya Potter wrote:
> I don't doubt you, as in a perfect world I would agree. But perhaps I'm
> cynicall, as the FSF always wants Linux and GNU mentioned together, but
> to me Linux is not necc a "free system" i.e. RedHat distributes software
> that the FS
gt; in this case.
There is no conflict, so there is no need to weight principles against each
other.
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fact that your proposal entirely excludes this important
question is a good reason to stall it and look for a better, more
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On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 01:39:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 07:19:58PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:31:30PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > That I do not support grandfathering efforts on these manuals doesn
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 07:18:37PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:56:44PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > The DFSG was not written or intended to be an automated mechanism
> > which you apply to a software and you get "yes" or "no&q
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"a small amount",
and leave the exact amount to the subsequent flamewars on debian-legal
(which will happen anyway if there is a package with 0.011 percent etc).
If the "guideline" aspect of the text is sufficient to weaken the fixed
limite (eg if it is agreed that 32769 bytes a
t informs the user about it, if everything else
fails. I don't think there is any real world problem that can't easily be
solved here.
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7;t a problem at all. Although
it might take some games to find out what boards and cards make for a fair
and funny game, I am sure there'd be plenty of boards and card sets
coming up.
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want to play it :)
one of the next days, and if I see a problem I will let you know of course.
But I guess it is only conceptually similar, while the implementation is
qutie different -> no copyright issue.
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debian-legal and debian-policy.
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plete question in license
issues.
> Getting off-topic a bit, there's an interesting clause in the
> license for libio, in /usr/doc/libc6/copyright (on potato anyway).
Not on woody, and I don't have potato to check the context. So no comment :)
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> I would think if GNU was an OS, there would be no
> Linux today.
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This would have the additional
effect of making the differences transparent.
> Sunnanvind (headache and hungry and mad at school. Hope it doesn't
> shine through.)
Didn't notice until now. Food, sleep and hacking should help :)
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Hi,
mmmh, this should probably be on debian-project or something...
On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 06:36:37PM -0600, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
> Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > There have been several cases in the past where we include and the FSF
> > exclude, and none I am aware of where
On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 10:15:34AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 06:36:37PM -0600, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
>
> > > At the Q&A following his lecture in Chicago on Halloween, 2001, RMS
&
even give us the option for that (otherwise we could at least kick
out that obnoxious makedev_all.deb ;)
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 03:38:02PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 02:39:28PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> [...]
> > The serious problem for the FSF is very easy to understand: It is not
> > acceptable for the FSF that Debian decides what goes into
On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 12:15:39PM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 02:39:28PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > For example, we thought that some LDP documents are troublesome.
> > Incidentially, the licenses of all LDP documents have been sorted out
>
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:43:10PM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2002, at 03:56 PM, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>
> > Extending it to absolute urls
> >would probably work, but has the serious problem that you can
> >only point to
> >
PL on his web
site (first hit in Google search for "Eben Moglen").
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me discussions with the same
topics and the same result. All interesting issues are not covered by it,
and have always been subject to interpretation by us. And I don't think
that is a bad thing (OTOH, I wouldn't mind to get some of the worse gaps
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that it isn't there (many
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quoting. But I was not quoting in the bug report, but sending a patch
for the manual.
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ce between a computer program and a
book, but I don't think that the differences are in a way that matters to
the DFSG.
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>
> You mean like the posix specifications?
Or like ISO C, for that matter!
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want
> other people distributing modified versions of them. This isn't a
> serious restriction, because no one would want to do that anyway, but
> it means that academic papers are generally not DFSG-free.
I want to do it.
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evertheless, the GPL says the source code is the preferred format to change
the program.
We can't redistribute this until we get our hands on the normal source under
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I am not sure how much licenses we consider free would break, but it would
be worth investigating. Furthermore, we could always add exceptions.
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On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 01:56:29PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > "Activities other than copying, distribution and modification must not be
> > covered by the license."
>
> That rules out any licenses with BSD-like advertising clauses.
Not
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s. Your objection stems from your very own
interpretation of the word "use" in context of library software, a
distinction I can't and won't follow. Any further discussion should probably
be initiated by your definition of the word "use" above.
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clause.
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not) to make non-free license of Qt still possible.
That would make QPL and GPL incompatible, because this restriction is not
allowed with GPL'ed software.
I apologize if I got this wrong, I am offline right now and can't check in a
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Sorry for following up on my own message:
On Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 02:58:22PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> What about the other issue, that the original copyright holder (in case of
> Qt that's Troll Tech) can relicense the modifications (I hope I didn't mess
> this u
;t incorporate any source files. You just call a name, and
rely that the administrator put the correct functionality in this name.
So I think you could really write a proprietary graphical chess board
interfacing with gnuchess over the command line.
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> Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 11:10:18PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>
> > > 1) program A, statically linked with a library B
> > > 2) program A,
ect redistribution with Debian).
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ile the source code. It is a fact. If you compiled the source,
you included the header files.
If you included different header files, and still are able to link with the
shared library, you are lucky and the situation is differently.
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copyrightable amount of work.
Any binary that was produced by incorporating header files from some work is
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> Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Mr. Foo is the author of a Makefile, covered by the GPL. Mr. Bar wants to
> > use it in his work. He is allowed to do so, as he can read in section 2:
&g
On Mon, Mar 22, 1999 at 06:38:42PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
> > I don't see that. The function names are, but those are pretty much the
> > same as page numbers. You can't copyright words.
>
> Marcus Brinkmann writes:
> > gcc does include the he
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> On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 1999 at 03:19:22AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
>
> > > | The legal rules for using the output from GCC are the determined by
> > &g
onger then the legalese in any way.
> I will do some research (I'm writing my IP paper on this subject) on how
> courts enforce software licenses of work upon which a derivative is made.
> I will post my results...
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John has answered to your reply a lot better than I probably cxan do (thanks
John), but here are some remarks from me, too.
On Thu, Mar 25, 1999 at 10:13:32AM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 25, 1999 at 04:03:27PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> >
> > If you
er to decide that using libreadline gets
possible, by offering GPL as (alternative) license.
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lt in additions to my killfile, and especially if they are
> thoughtlessly cc'd to the list. so don't do that, because i like my killfile
> short.
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is is just my opinion, though.
There are also practical reasons to choose the GPL. A GPL'ed program is
always GPL'ed. A mixture of dozens of different dfsg free licenses is a
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n a legal document without opening
zillions of loopholes and similar unconvenient stuff (you'd need to define
"copyleft").
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free for me and luckily for hundreds of other people.
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available for download and inclusion on
CD's at the vendors discretion.
I believe in Free Software because I think the possibility of people to
contribute and basee their work on mine is outweighing the loss of control.
But this is a decision you have to make for each item again.
Hope
derivation is
possible, it is very likely dfsg free (although there are some minor
caveeats to avoid. Nothing too serious, though).
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On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 12:05:38PM +, Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet wrote:
> Ok, so it's allowed to require something like this:
>
> If you make modifications to the reference, you must document them in the
> file CHANGELOG when you distribute them, and you must change the notice "(C)
> Copyrig
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will be dfsg compatible, so we don't have to discuss much about it
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is point.
If using a derived work on the same chess contest is unappealing, the
conditions on the contest should be changed, not the software license. A
license is almost never a good moral playground (remember the "microsoft" or
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mple. Great. Such software could also NOT be modifed and
used by the military to find a way to detect and destroy mines in places
where a war has ended. Every medaillon has two sides.
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r reasons.
Hope this helps,
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mpared with most other licenses in Debian, it's really cutting the
edge of what is legal for us in many areas.
Thanks,
Marcus
going back to work on GNU/Debian hurd. ;)
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On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 10:20:43AM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote:
> >>>>> "Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Marcus> What the hell is "GNU/Debian linux"
>
> The jdk *as it stands* doesn't even support Hurd
n-free as many other licenses of this sort.
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Marcus
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Raul Miller wrote:
> I wish other copyright law of other countries was as easy to
> access.
Germany, for example, here:
http://www.compuserve.de/recht/gesetze/urhg/
Marcus
On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 09:11:19PM -0100, Anthony wrote:
>
> 1) cracking the QPL, i mean finding an exploit in the QPL.
> a work for lawer-hacker :), it could be cool:)
Everything that violates the spirit of a license will probably
not find the way into Debian. We don't need foes.
If it is not ex
On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 09:46:33PM -0100, Anthony wrote:
> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> >
> >And, you have to ask yourself: Why?
> >
> >And the answer, I think, is that if they did, the pieces of software
> >which weren't originally written for Qt would stand out. And, a KDE with
>
Santiago Vila wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> Do we really need a copytight notice in /etc/motd?
I think it is even misleading. The major parts of Debian are not by
Debian or SPI,
but by other folks like GNU and Linus.
We should probably refer to the individual copyright notices instead.
Marcus
On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 07:48:40AM -0500, Andreas Pour wrote:
> Hmm. I don't know, the BSD license says you can modify the source code, it
> does
> not permit you to modify the license. The copyright holder still holds the
> copyright to every copy of the work that is created. And this owner ha
contrib or main.
This could happen for one reason only: If nobody is willing to maintain it.
But as we already have volunteers, this is very unlikely.
Thanks,
Marcus
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t not reverse engineer etc.
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