Re: Licensing a work using a GPL-ed library under the LGPL

2007-09-02 Thread Ben Finney
Shriramana Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AllCompatibility > > says that a work using a GPL-ed library can be licensed under the > LGPL "if you convert to GPL". For example the KDE libraries which > use the GPL-ed Qt libraries are themselve

Re: Licensing a work using a GPL-ed library under the LGPL

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:50:06 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Shriramana Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > But I don't understand what is the meaning of licensing something > > under the LGPL if it is effectively under the GPL anyway because it > > uses a GPL-ed library. > > Because it also a

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Well this is not too helpful. I would wish that licenses that are >acceptable are all officially listed somewhere (here? With very good approximation, you can be sure that packages in main have acceptable licenses, and work from this knowledge. >So this means, MPL, CPL =

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:58:45 +0200 (CEST) Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Well this is not too helpful. I would wish that licenses that are > >acceptable are all officially listed somewhere (here? > With very good approximation, you can be sure that packages in main > have acce

Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Hello. I am working on a GPL-ed program and found this very useful database which is licensed under CC-3.0-BY. I think that since my program is going to only parse the database and not "link" to it in any sense of the term, it is not a problem to use this database for my program even though t

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I disagree that this can be a good approximation, since assuming it is >would imply that DFSG-compliance bugs (almost) never happen. Indeed, they do not. >One example is all the GFDL-ed stuff that got approved before realizing >that it does not comply with the DFSG. No,

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Is my view correct? I can use the CC-BY-ed database for my GPL-ed >program, right? Apparently yes. Anyway, the correct criteria is not "linking" but "being a derived work". This case looks like mere aggregation. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Marco d'Itri wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is my view correct? I can use the CC-BY-ed database for my GPL-ed program, right? Apparently yes. Anyway, the correct criteria is not "linking" but "being a derived work". This case looks like mere aggregation. It's not mere aggregation. Mere aggr

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 02, Shriramana Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not mere aggregation. Mere aggregation is when GPL licensed Qt and > Boost-licensed Boost are put on a single distribution medium. Qt does > nothing to Boost and Boost does nothing to Qt. Here the program actually > *uses* the datab

Re: Licensing a work using a GPL-ed library under the LGPL

2007-09-02 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Francesco Poli wrote: In the KDE+Qt example, the recipient is allowed to port the KDE library to a toolkit other than Qt. If the chosen toolkit is licensed under a more permissive license than the GPL (e.g.: LGPL, Expat, 3-clause BSD, Excellent answer. I also realized that if a person has a co

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Marco d'Itri wrote: Is it different from abiword opening a .doc file? Can it work with a different database? No. The program depends on the exact way that the data is laid out in the database. Maybe you should explain better what the program is and how it works. It's a program related to

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:03:05 +0530 Shriramana Sharma wrote: [...] > It's a program related to astronomy that requires latitude, longitude > and elevation of places to calculate sunrise, sunset etc. For that I > found the database from geonames.org. This database has a certain > internal format

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:46:21 +0200 (CEST) Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > >One example is all the GFDL-ed stuff that got approved before > >realizing that it does not comply with the DFSG. > No, GFDL'ed stuff got approved before a few people managed to change > the DFSG by di

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Francesco Poli wrote: > Can anyone more knowledgeable than me on these topics shed some light, > please? > The main question is: do I really need a copyright license to use, > modify and/or redistribute such a (published) database? If the selection of the data that was put in the database involved

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 02, Shriramana Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Maybe you should explain better what the program is and how it works. > It's a program related to astronomy that requires latitude, longitude and > elevation of places to calculate sunrise, sunset etc. For that I found the > database fro

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:44:40 +0200 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > Can anyone more knowledgeable than me on these topics shed some > > light, please? > > The main question is: do I really need a copyright license to use, > > modify and/or redistribute such a (published) databas

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread MJ Ray
Soeren Sonnenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 12:05 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > The only official statements about DFSG compliance are made by the > > ftpmasters. > > Well this is not too helpful. I would wish that licenses that are > acceptable are all officially listed

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Olive
Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: Can anyone more knowledgeable than me on these topics shed some light, please? The main question is: do I really need a copyright license to use, modify and/or redistribute such a (published) database? If the selection of the data that was put in