Re: Is this license permittable into debian 'main'

2002-12-16 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 23:23, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 11:52:27PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: > > I don't see anywhere that this fails the DFSG. Asking that someone must > > hit such-and-such a web page with changes (and its moral equivalents) I > > will buy as a violation of DFSG 5

Re: Is this license permittable into debian 'main'

2002-12-16 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 02:31:53AM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > However, clause 6 says it only takes effect "when distributed", which is > kind of confusing. You need to be distributing it, but not to the > general public. Do NDAs and things like internal use count as > distribution at all? I'm n

Balsa: Indirect linking to OpenSSL via LGPL and OpenLDAP libs

2002-12-16 Thread Andrew Lau
Hi everyone, I was wondering whether it would be legal for me compile and link Balsa (GPL) to the libesmtp5 (LGPL) [1] and libldap2 (OpenLDAP PL [2]) libs. Doing so results in a binary that is indirectly linked to OpenSSL for which Balsa does not have a exclusion clause for at this current

Re: Is this license permittable into debian 'main'

2002-12-16 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > However, clause 6 says it only takes effect "when distributed", which is > kind of confusing. You need to be distributing it, but not to the > general public. Do NDAs and things like internal use count as > distribution at all? It's not hard to come up

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scripsit Alexandre Dulaunoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Is the license of gnuplot compatible with the DFSG ? > > Yes. See DFSG#4. And gnuplot is in Debian main. OT, but I'm sure most people first pick gnuplot because they think it is the GNU tool for

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 11:49:45AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > > > My concern is not with bindings (most PHP *bindings* seem to be > > > GPL-compatible), but with the interpreter itself; I don't see anything in > > > the GPL that states uneq

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If we go by your interpretation, then any self-contained GPL executable > (for example, a flash image for an embedded linux system) can be > distributed without source code. A GPL-d program in which the "original" is not source code is incoherent. S

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What establishes "cahoots"? Well, basically, anyone who did any of > > the steps (*any* of them, whether that step would be illegal in > > isolation or not) with the intention that it's part of the total > > process. This is similar to conspiracy l

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-16 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What establishes "cahoots"? Well, basically, anyone who did any of > > > the steps (*any* of them, whether that step would be illegal in > > > isolation or not) with the intention that it's part

Legal status of DDR step files

2002-12-16 Thread Joe Wreschnig
I'm intending to package PyDDR (http://www.clickass.org/~tgz/pyddr), a Dance Dance Revolution simulator for UNIX systems. The basic idea behind DDR is that you have a pattern of button presses (which you press with your feet, hence "dancing") which you do in rhythm with music. PyDDR at the moment

Re: Legal status of DDR step files

2002-12-16 Thread David Turner
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 18:05, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > I'm intending to package PyDDR (http://www.clickass.org/~tgz/pyddr), a > Dance Dance Revolution simulator for UNIX systems. The basic idea behind > DDR is that you have a pattern of button presses (which you press with > your feet, hence "dancing"

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-16 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 09:23, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > OT, but I'm sure most people first pick gnuplot because they think it is > the GNU tool for the job. It's too bad that it capitalizes on the name > with such a license. Well, what *is* the GNU tool for the job? AFAIK there isn't one. (FWIW,

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not sure whether or not you disagree with me. Was it that hard to > tell that my original "different people" scenario was meant as a > situation where each of the things that each of the parties do is > something they do because it makes sense in i

Re: Is this license permittable into debian 'main'

2002-12-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't think being forced to actively send changes (or changelogs) upstream > is any different than having to produce source on demand; both discriminate > against people who *can't* publically release changes, such as people under > NDA. The NDA is a

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Alexandre Dulaunoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is the license of gnuplot compatible with the DFSG ? Yes. > Gnuplot is freeware in the sense that you don't have to pay for > it. However it is not freeware in the sense that you would be allowed > to distribute a modified version of you

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OT, but I'm sure most people first pick gnuplot because they think it is > the GNU tool for the job. It's too bad that it capitalizes on the name > with such a license. gnuplot predates the GNU project.

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-16 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) > What matters is if it's part of a total pattern: if so, then anyone > who intended it to be part of such a total pattern is infringing, > even if their piece, in isolation, would not be. What must I say to communicate the message that the case y

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-16 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) > gnuplot predates the GNU project. The earliest copyright date in any of the gnuplot 3.7.1 source files is 1986; gnuplot 1.0.3 was relased November 16/17 that year in a series of postings to net.sources. The only mention of any year between 1980

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-16 Thread Simon Law
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 07:01:07PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 09:23, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > OT, but I'm sure most people first pick gnuplot because they think it is > > the GNU tool for the job. It's too bad that it capitalizes on the name > > with such a license. >

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