Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-22 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 11:33:31PM -0400, none wrote: > My difficulty with this argument is that an owner of the copy of the > GPL library has a wide right to make a derivative work on the owner's > computer by virtue of the GPL and/or a more limited right in the U.S. > by virtue of section 117 of

Re: OpenSSL and GPLed programs

2001-06-22 Thread Raul Miller
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > In principle, at least, we should be able to find a basis for agreement, > > and go from there. On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:20:29PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Where to? What exactly is served by the whole discussion? If, as he claims, there's

Re: facultative linking and libraries. ...

2001-06-22 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:30:52PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Sven LUTHER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This causes no problem, because the QPL is not incompatible with the LGPL, > > but it is with the GPL. So there is no possibility to link it with > > libreadline, isn't it ? > > Y

Re: facultative linking and libraries. ...

2001-06-22 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:29:35PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > The real problem is that it is a pain for the user to use a toplevel > interpreter without propper input history support. The authors couldn't care > less, and don't want (yet) to release the few files from the toplevel > interpreter

Re: facultative linking and libraries. ...

2001-06-22 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:35:45AM -0400, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:29:35PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > The real problem is that it is a pain for the user to use a toplevel > > interpreter without propper input history support. The authors couldn't care > > less, an

Re: facultative linking and libraries. ...

2001-06-22 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:46:50PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:35:45AM -0400, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > > > > Why not use libeditline instead? It's source-code compatible with the basic > > features of readline and has a BSD (sans ad clause) type license. > > Ok didn't

Re: facultative linking and libraries. ...

2001-06-22 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:47:49AM -0400, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:46:50PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:35:45AM -0400, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > > > > > > Why not use libeditline instead? It's source-code compatible with the > > > basic > > >

Re: OpenSSL and GPLed programs

2001-06-22 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On 21 Jun 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > At the same time, it is wise to bend over backwards to > make clear that one is disclaiming any implied warranty that might > exist. This depends which nation's law you are under. As I understood German law, any clause if at a whole void, that disclai

Re: OpenSSL and GPLed programs

2001-06-22 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > In principle, at least, we should be able to find a basis for agreement, > > > and go from there. > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:20:29PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > Where to? What exactly is served

Re: facultative linking and libraries. ...

2001-06-22 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Sven LUTHER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Err, my understanding was that anything is compatible with the GPL, but that > the GPL just stops you from distributing it without complying with the GPL, i > am right with it ? Yes, but the GPL applies to the *whole program*. > It is perfectly well t

Re: Question about the old BSD license and GPL (gtkipmsg)

2001-06-22 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Raul Miller wrote: >On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 11:12:58AM -0400, Chloe Hoffman wrote: >> If we're talking about enforcement of copyright in a court of law, then I >> would note, as summarized by Eugene Volokh >> (http://www.law.ucla.edu/faculty/volokh/copyinj.htm#IIA): >> >> In H

Re: Question about the old BSD license and GPL (gtkipmsg)

2001-06-22 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 02:37:43PM -0600, John Galt wrote: > Debian's already doing this to some small extent by calling it Debian > GNU/Linux. No, we're not. To see the difference, compare this to Debian GNU/Linux -- This product includes software developed by the Apache Group for use in the Ap

Re: Question about the old BSD license and GPL (gtkipmsg)

2001-06-22 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Raul Miller wrote: >On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 02:37:43PM -0600, John Galt wrote: >> Debian's already doing this to some small extent by calling it Debian >> GNU/Linux. > >No, we're not. Then why IS it Debian GNU/Linux instead of Debian Linux? >To see the difference, compare

Re: Question about the old BSD license and GPL (gtkipmsg)

2001-06-22 Thread Stephen Stafford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 22 June 2001 10:28 pm, John Galt wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Raul Miller wrote: > >On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 02:37:43PM -0600, John Galt wrote: > >> Debian's already doing this to some small extent by calling it > >> Debian GNU/Linux. >

Re: Question about the old BSD license and GPL (gtkipmsg)

2001-06-22 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Stephen Stafford wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Friday 22 June 2001 10:28 pm, John Galt wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Raul Miller wrote: >> >On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 02:37:43PM -0600, John Galt wrote: >> >> Debian's already doing this to so

Re: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use

2001-06-22 Thread Richard Stallman
My difficulty with this argument is that an owner of the copy of the GPL library has a wide right to make a derivative work on the owner's computer by virtue of the GPL and/or a more limited right in the U.S. by virtue of section 117 of the U.S. Copyright Act. In the scenario we we