Re: 6 GPL'ed Packages that depend on XForms.

1999-06-08 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Brian Ristuccia wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 08:18:30PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > > > I would suggest > > > > "You may link this software with XForms (Copyright (C) by > > T.C. Zhao and Mark Overmars) and distribute the resulting > > binary, under the restrictions in clause

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread Raul Miller
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > thus, anybody can reuse and relicence it in any way one wishes. > > No one can relicense anyone else's work, PD or not. Er.. yes you can. It doesn't mean much if you don't put original content into your derived copy, but there's nothing that prevents mu

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread John Hasler
Raul writes: > It ["relicensing"] doesn't mean much if you don't put original content > into your derived copy, but there's nothing that prevents multiple > licenses. It doen't mean anything. The original work retains its original license while whatever you added to create the derivative gets wha

Re: bzflag license

1999-06-08 Thread Richard Braakman
Henning Makholm wrote: > Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 2. Modified object or executable code must be accompanied by the > >modified source code and/or documentation clearly stating the > >modifications. Modified executables must be renamed to not > >conflict with

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread Raul Miller
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There's plenty of examples where a public domain work was relicensed and > > sold for a lot of money. > > And those who paid that money can extract the PD work and distribute copies > with impunity no matter how the seller "relicensed" it. Only if they c

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread Henning Makholm
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the U.S. Government will *not* take action against a U.S. citizen who > slaps another copyright on the work, I think the idea is plausible. They probably won't. That doesn't mean that a third-party copyright statement will have any validity in court, what

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread John Hasler
Raul writes: > Only if they can do the extraction (can identify the changes). This can > be rather hard if we're talking about a binary which was derived from PD > information -- you might not even know that part of it was PD. I am not disputing this, just the notion that on can change the licens

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread Raul Miller
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quotes Title 17: > (b) The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends only to > the material contributed by the author of such work, as distinguished > from the preexisting material employed in the work, and does not imply > any exclusi

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread Ben Pfaff
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quotes Title 17: > (b) The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends only to > the material contributed by the author of such work, as distinguished > from the preexisting material employ

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread Raul Miller
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quotes Title 17: > > (b) The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends only to > > the material contributed by the author of such work, as distinguished > > from the preexisting material employed in the work, and does not imply > > any exclusive right in

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread John Hasler
Henning Makholm writes: > They probably won't. That doesn't mean that a third-party copyright > statement will have any validity in court, whatsoever. Except perhaps as evidence of fraud. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread Bruce Perens
You can re-license any work that allows re-licensing. These include all public-domain works, and any other works whose license terms allow it, such as works under the BSD and X licenses. You can, for example, put the GPL on any X-licensed work _in_addition_ to the X license. Your modifications will

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread Jonathan P Tomer
> It says that you can't enlarge the scope, etc. of any copyright > protection in the prexisting material. > > There is no copyright protection in the prexisting material, so I fail > to see how that paragraph is relevant. there is no copyright protection; therefore the scope of any existing copy

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread John Hasler
Raul writes: > But there is no copyright on U.S. Government issued materials, nor on > public domain materials, so this paragraph isn't really relevant. (b) The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends only to the material contributed by the author of such work, as disting