Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli wrote: > As Joe Smith has just explained in more detail, one of the two license > versions includes a more specific requirement to embed a verbatim > sentence in user documentation: I cannot find any such restriction in > the GNU LGPL v2.1... I was looking at the December 2001 vers

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:43:14 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:54:00 + MJ Ray wrote: > > [...] > > > What extra restrictions? The exceptions looked like actual > > > exceptions, assuming that "identify their use of FLTK" is in the > > > LGPL-2.1... which i

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread Joe Smith
"Giacomo A. Catenazzi" wrote in message news:49c8da6f.7050...@debian.org... 4. You do not have to provide a copy of the FLTK license with programs that are linked to the FLTK library, nor do you have to identify the FLTK license in your program or documentation as requ

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:54:00 + MJ Ray wrote: > [...] > > What extra restrictions? The exceptions looked like actual > > exceptions, assuming that "identify their use of FLTK" is in the > > LGPL-2.1... which it appears to be, in section 1. > > Could you please elaborate

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:54:00 + MJ Ray wrote: [...] > What extra restrictions? The exceptions looked like actual > exceptions, assuming that "identify their use of FLTK" is in the > LGPL-2.1... which it appears to be, in section 1. Could you please elaborate on this? I cannot find any require

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-25 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <20090324232043.2789e...@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>, Olive writes Any derivative work is covered by the FLTK license and that include the additional permissions. It is my understanding that you cannot change the license at all unless it is explicitly permitted and I do not find this permi

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-25 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <49c9a819.rvf2v61xchuvg7vu%...@phonecoop.coop>, MJ Ray writes Olive wrote: MJ Ray wrote: > I don't see why authors of derived works have to grant the additional > permissions. Where is that requirement? To distribute derivative works you need a license (otherwise it is a copyrigh

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-24 Thread Olive
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:42:17 + MJ Ray wrote: > Olive wrote: > > MJ Ray wrote: > > > I don't see why authors of derived works have to grant the > > > additional permissions. Where is that requirement? > > > > To distribute derivative works you need a license (otherwise it is a > > copyright

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-24 Thread MJ Ray
Olive wrote: > MJ Ray wrote: > > I don't see why authors of derived works have to grant the additional > > permissions. Where is that requirement? > > To distribute derivative works you need a license (otherwise it is a > copyright infringement). The way it is presented is not you have all > the

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-24 Thread Greg Harris
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:56:06 +1100 Ben Finney wrote: > "Giacomo A. Catenazzi" writes: > > > === FLTK License, May 2001 === > > FLTK License > > Ammended May 4, 2001 > > > > The following ammendments to the GNU Library General Public > > Lic

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-24 Thread Ben Finney
"Giacomo A. Catenazzi" writes: > === FLTK License, May 2001 === > FLTK License > Ammended May 4, 2001 > > The following ammendments to the GNU Library General Public > License apply for the FLTK library: > > 1. Modifications to the FLTK

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-24 Thread Olive
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:56:51 + MJ Ray wrote: > Olive wrote: > > If I understand it well; the amendments of the LGPL are not > > removable (it is not explicitly said to be removable so by default > > it is not). But It seems then that this license might in fact be > > incompatible with the LP

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-24 Thread MJ Ray
Olive wrote: > If I understand it well; the amendments of the LGPL are not removable > (it is not explicitly said to be removable so by default it is not). > But It seems then that this license might in fact be incompatible with > the LPGL. They appear to be additional permissions, so are GPL-com

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-24 Thread Olive
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:54:00 + MJ Ray wrote: > "Giacomo A. Catenazzi" wrote: [...] > > - It seems it to fail the "desert island" test > > This is not in itself a problem, but usually suggests it fails DFSG 1, > 3, 5, 6 and/or 7 in some combination. > > However, the FLTK License only *reque

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-24 Thread MJ Ray
"Giacomo A. Catenazzi" wrote: [...] > - It seems it to fail the "desert island" test This is not in itself a problem, but usually suggests it fails DFSG 1, 3, 5, 6 and/or 7 in some combination. However, the FLTK License only *requests* contribution. It does not require it, so I think it doesn't