Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-10 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: >> >the recent discussion about 'Firebird being in main' caused even more >> >confusion on my side, as the sites [1], [2] (which I consider the >> >debian-official statement wrt. which license is DFSG compliant) do not >> >list the MPL as a DFSG conform license but as DFSG-

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-08 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 15:18 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:13:56 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > > > Quoting Francesco Poli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > [Comparison of DFSG and OSD:] > > > > > OSI based its OSD on the DFSG > > > > More specifically, Bruce Perens wrote > [...]

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-08 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 22:37 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:56:23 +0200 Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > > [...] > > Anyway I below quote both the OSI open source definition and DFSG and > > as no one pointed me to any analysis on what could cause > > incompatibilities I am now jus

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-08 Thread Jens Peter Secher
On 03/09/2007, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le dimanche 02 septembre 2007 à 13:46 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : > > No, GFDL'ed stuff got approved before a few people managed to change the > > DFSG by disguising that as "editorial changes". > > Only you and Anthony Towns believe th

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-08 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:13:56 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Francesco Poli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > [Comparison of DFSG and OSD:] > > > OSI based its OSD on the DFSG > > More specifically, Bruce Perens wrote [...] Yes, that's the whole story in more detail, thanks for expanding my summary

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-06 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Francesco Poli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [Comparison of DFSG and OSD:] > OSI based its OSD on the DFSG More specifically, Bruce Perens wrote the latter document first, and then copied it wholesale with trivial modifications to create the former ("The license" instead of "The license of a

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-03 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:56:23 +0200 Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: [...] > Anyway I below quote both the OSI open source definition and DFSG and > as no one pointed me to any analysis on what could cause > incompatibilities I am now just commenting on the parts below. In > summary I think that the OSI's

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-03 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 21:56 +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Soeren Sonnenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 12:05 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > The only official statements about DFSG compliance are made by the > > > ftpmasters. > > > > Well this is not too helpful. I would wish t

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-03 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 02 septembre 2007 à 13:46 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : > No, GFDL'ed stuff got approved before a few people managed to change the > DFSG by disguising that as "editorial changes". Only you and Anthony Towns believe the changes were not editorial. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread MJ Ray
Soeren Sonnenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 12:05 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > The only official statements about DFSG compliance are made by the > > ftpmasters. > > Well this is not too helpful. I would wish that licenses that are > acceptable are all officially listed

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:46:21 +0200 (CEST) Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > >One example is all the GFDL-ed stuff that got approved before > >realizing that it does not comply with the DFSG. > No, GFDL'ed stuff got approved before a few people managed to change > the DFSG by di

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I disagree that this can be a good approximation, since assuming it is >would imply that DFSG-compliance bugs (almost) never happen. Indeed, they do not. >One example is all the GFDL-ed stuff that got approved before realizing >that it does not comply with the DFSG. No,

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:58:45 +0200 (CEST) Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Well this is not too helpful. I would wish that licenses that are > >acceptable are all officially listed somewhere (here? > With very good approximation, you can be sure that packages in main > have acce

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Well this is not too helpful. I would wish that licenses that are >acceptable are all officially listed somewhere (here? With very good approximation, you can be sure that packages in main have acceptable licenses, and work from this knowledge. >So this means, MPL, CPL =

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-01 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 12:05 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >the recent discussion about 'Firebird being in main' caused even more > >confusion on my side, as the sites [1], [2] (which I consider the > >debian-official statement wrt. which license is DFSG compliant) do no

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-01 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >the recent discussion about 'Firebird being in main' caused even more >confusion on my side, as the sites [1], [2] (which I consider the >debian-official statement wrt. which license is DFSG compliant) do not >list the MPL as a DFSG conform license but as DFSG-incompatibl

DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-01 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
Dear all, the recent discussion about 'Firebird being in main' caused even more confusion on my side, as the sites [1], [2] (which I consider the debian-official statement wrt. which license is DFSG compliant) do not list the MPL as a DFSG conform license but as DFSG-incompatible [1]. Also the con