e Software and thus eligible for inclusion in the Debian OS.
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> [ ] None of the above statements approximates my opinion.
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iguity; it's
best to get a clarification from the original author(s) or copyright
holder(s), if possible.
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Knuth's request is
legally binding; his statement that the fonts are "in the public
domain" suggests that no request of his regarding the fonts is legally
binding, although his wishes should not be lightly disregarded.)
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stribution of non-free through requiring any non-free vendor to do
their own manual sieve on "sufficiently free to stick on a for-$ CD".
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at least some of) graphviz
(http://www.chaosreigns.com/code/springgraph/), and it is entirely
possible to develop a free alternative for the particular interpreter
in question.
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In practice, the de facto procedures are always followed.
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expected to
behave like standard LaTeX. However, if you represent your derived
work as being standard LaTeX (by calling it LaTeX), the behavior
should be consistent with standard LaTeX for all macro packages
defined in standard LaTeX.
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ficient, or what a "reasonable" price might be. For example, if
A distributes Debian without source, and nobody complains that they
didn't get source, A is not violating the GPL per se.)
In other words: you have opened a massive can of worms. :-)
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erences between article.dtx as distributed by the LaTeX3 project
and my article.dtx (for example, "corrected typo in line 300 that
stopped articles with fewer than 83 pages from having more than 17
footnotes".)
Then again, maybe I'm missing the point :-)
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, in fact, like
goats, and while you're at it take my damn name off!" (*).
Don't mind me, I'm not really awake :-)
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sts are archived and nevertheless claimed some sort of
proprietary interest in the mail I am replying to.
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of the attached licenses are
DFSG-free, with the possible exception of the guy who goes on about
"GNU-style" stuff (who needs to properly license the file).
The one that's written in French I can't be certain of, but I suspect
it's not DFSG-free either.
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is incredibly trivial, so it's hard to argue that even
it is infringement (especially since an end-user doing this
independently wouldn't be infringement, and you could tell an end-user
how to do this in documentation).
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on is correct; in the same vein, other
licenses (the OPL, for example) have optional clauses that, when not
invoked, pass the DFSG.
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isc, without opening the door to rafts
of other crap anyway without a "if RMS wrote it, it's OK" exception
that smacks of hypocrisy. And since I don't see either RMS removing
that material or us excising it from our package of emacs over his
objections, the only way forw
t Java on the system, at
least if you use the binaries at openoffice.org. There's no reason
why we can't have a separate openoffice-java in contrib for people
that want the Java support.
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Osama bin
Laden have to abide by the terms of the GPL with regards to the
software, would that be non-free, even though both groups are covered
by DFSG-free licenses?)
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than the overall jurisdictional argument which at
best is specious.
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pgpgOdXbvnnsM.pgp
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e have diverged from the FSF
> analysis, something that I don't think we do elsewhere. I'll look
> through the mailing list archives.
May I suggest that we get this author to adopt the Clarified Artistic
License, which everyone agrees IS free and furthermore is
GPL-compatible.
On Jan 13, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> thanks for the feedback!
You're welcome :)
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 12:34:13PM -0600, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> > I would add at least a pointer to the Python community's response to
> > this issue,
>
> Which was like what ?
On Dec 09, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 01:00:10PM -0600, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> > ncftp 3.0.2 comes under something called the "Clarified" Artistic
> > License. It looks DFSG-free, but I'm not certain. Here's the text:
> [..]
>
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bution of this Package.
9. The name of the Copyright Holder may not be used to endorse or promote
products derived from this software without specific prior written permission.
10. THIS PACKAGE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND WITHOUT ANY EXPRESS OR
IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITA
On Aug 11, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
> This was on the kde-licensing mailing list two days ago.
> Just FYI.
[snip]
Well, I guess we know where Troll came up with their name...
Chris, who wonders if we ignore Troll maybe they will just go away... ;-)
ey don't specifically ask that
you accept the license, but that's a moot point.)
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n't find something more constructive. We're tired of your
bullshit and your inability to assimilate new ideas (for example, that
you're wrong).
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Opinions and attitudes expressed herein are rarely shared by my employer.
ibuting only places the combined work
(grep+libc) under the GPL, not its constituent parts for ever and in
eternity).
I think you're trolling now...
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t have the same
rights as those provided by the GPL.
Whether or not the actual components are licensed under the GPL is
irrelevant. What is relevant is that no permissions granted by the
GPL are abridged by any of the components. The (regex) Qt. licenses
abridge those permissions (in the case of the QPL, ever so slightly.
Same deal with the BSD Advertising Clause).
C
were not the case, then Sun, HP, et al. could not bundle a
proprietary X implementation (including closed-source X servers) with
their operating systems.
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;s just a statement
about the fact they make CDs.)
So I guess the person to blame works for Compaq.
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icense than the SPI copyright. As a matter of fact,
there can't be a problem, because the web site hosts documents under
the GPL and other licenses.
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programs have gotten the same
treatment (as have Qt-based programs from people other than KDE).
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other packages include Qt code).
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atters is the license. And the license says we
can't link KDE apps against Qt (1 or 2).
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explicitly say "you can link this against Qt"; that apparently would
satisfy the FTP maintainers and let KDE 1 into contrib [and KDE 2 into
main]).
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consider linking against Qt an abuse, and there are plenty of fat
targets out there for a lawsuit (Corel, Red Hat, Caldera...).]
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The Python license makes the same basic point, but you have to fiddle
with the wording some if you're not CWI ;-)
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GPLed code... it wouldn't revert to the public domain, which is the
only "benefit" that an overturned GPL might have to proprietary
software companies!).
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On Dec 04, Frank Copeland wrote:
> Chris Lawrence wrote:
> >On Dec 03, Frank Copeland wrote:
> >> Robert Merkel wrote:
> >> > > Like it or not, debian is an open project.
> >> >
> >> >In the conventional media, if the news doesn't c
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/11/26/1450245&mode=thread
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On Dec 02, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 03:13:14AM -0600, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> > On Dec 02, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > > They seem to be put off by liability issues, etc.
> > >
> > > And no doubt the risk of having their idle c
r the GPL, they are only obligated not to make
the "you can't sell to minors" restriction viral.
It also seems we're venturing into debian-project territory here
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e. Would be nice if we had one around here ;-)
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(OK, so I didn't account for a few little niggling details. That can
be fixed...)
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;t give a rat's ass who calls their program, and apt
is the program that runs dpkg.)
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On Oct 20, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 11:24:40PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> > On Oct 20, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
> > > COPYRIGHT
> > >The DBD::Pg module is free software. You may distribute
> > >under the terms of e
ndency on a
non-free package (which would make it appropriate for contrib).
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the "release" OPL at the
Open Content website. The book is licensed under ANY version of the
OPL, and the latest versions are a lot less strict in terms of
attribution and limiting the freedom of derived works.)
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write it or revise it.
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eems acceptable, although most of the disclosure terms
seem rather heavy-handed ("Hi, I'll run some stats for you, but first
let me lecture you on the license of the program I'm using...").
IANAL. #include * batteries not included.
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this point) there is no license that I can see. So we can't do squat
with NcFTP 3 until Mike includes a license.
Incidentally, ncftp 2 core dumps after using ncftp 3 (the prefs files
apparently confuse it); maybe we should fix that...
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at we can parse (poorly in my case, but I'm sure we've got a
native French speaker around somewhere).
IANAL. IMHO. Yadda yadda yadda.
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(and is unenforceable outside the U.S.) rather than imposing
additional restrictions on the user.
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p just happens to be in the kernel tree).
(I return you to your regularly-scheduled trollfest.)
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they do is define an
interface, which to my understanding isn't "code" per se. I doubt
Linus would have allowed them in otherwise.
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> > Change the name on your package just enough to avoid all of the trademarks,
> > because we _will_ have to fix bugs before they do, etc.
>
> Any recommendations on avoiding the trademark? Do I h
an build an identical CD image to the Official (Debian)
CD, but I'm wouldn't be allowed to call it the Official CD. So even
within Debian there are issues.
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uot;UW Pine" or "UW PC/Pine"). That
would at least edge it closer to DFSG-freeness (and would certainly
let binaries into non-free).
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raries.
... which may have their own issues. Is the LGPL (AbiWord uses glib
internally) Qt-compatible?
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ng to move the package out of
project/orphaned and into main; I might also be willing to maintain it
if it's non-free (if it doesn't seem like a complete hassle).
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