Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-29 Thread Anthony Towns
[cc to lwn dropped, this is also heading offtopic for -legal] On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 10:17:19AM -0700, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > > Or unless the Harmony project [2] succeeds to a similar degree that > > lesstif has and KDE can happily link against it. Or, unless Troll Tech > > folds and Qt becomes B

Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-29 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 05:12:52PM -0700, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > was referring to) and some to debuild or dpkg-buildpackage. So there may > well be an official requirement to use debuild or dpkg-buildpackage, but > the general documentation and also the debianized pine documentation has > not cau

Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-29 Thread Joey Hess
Alan W. Irwin wrote: > When I build pine debs from debianized > source I certainly have no intention of distributing them to anyone else, > and I believe this would be true for virtually every ordinary Debian user > who built KDE debs on their machine. Especially if Debian specifically > raised the

Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-29 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On Mon, 29 May 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > > Alan W. Irwin wrote: > > But my impression is that not every debianized source tree can be used with > > the debuild command. For example, can you use debuild with the debianized > > pine source tree that is distributed with Debian? When I built it a nu

Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-29 Thread Joey Hess
(This is not intended to be published in LWN, and I'd just as soon drop the Cc.) Alan W. Irwin wrote: > But my impression is that not every debianized source tree can be used with > the debuild command. For example, can you use debuild with the debianized > pine source tree that is distributed wi

Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-29 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, > On Sun, 28 May 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > > KDE, in source form or not, cannot be an official part of Debian until > > its license problems are resolved. Source is great, but you have to be > > ale to leagally build it, link it against the required libraires, use it, > > and distriute binaries

Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-29 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 09:55:38AM -0700, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > I am glad we agree that source is great. But the rest of your sentences > that I have just quoted are the nub of our disagreement. I believe the GPL > says nothing about the *private* use of software. Debian isn't exactly private.

Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-29 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On Mon, 29 May 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, May 28, 2000 at 10:04:30AM -0700, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > [in response to Tobias Peters] > > > I can see why neither Debian nor KDE wants to change here, and it is also a > > practical impossibility for KDE. Unfortunately, that leads to the > >

Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-29 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On Sun, 28 May 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > Alan W. Irwin wrote: > > One current problem for Debian (unlike rpm-based distributions) is it does > > not have a standard source-package format. > > You are quite mistaken. Debian may not have a source package format that > rpm users can easly understand.

xgettext generated .pot files

2000-05-29 Thread Cris van Pelt
When running xgettext on a program, it generates a .pot file that starts with: # SOME DESCRIPTIVE TITLE. # Copyright (C) YEAR Free Software Foundation, Inc. # FIRST AUTHOR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, YEAR. # Should (must?) the "Copright FSF" line remain there? And if so, does this have any consequences

Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-29 Thread Joey Hess
Alan W. Irwin wrote: > One current problem for Debian (unlike rpm-based distributions) is it does > not have a standard source-package format. You are quite mistaken. Debian may not have a source package format that rpm users can easly understand. However, it does have a source package format, one

Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, May 28, 2000 at 10:04:30AM -0700, Alan W. Irwin wrote: [in response to Tobias Peters] > You and others have brought up the possibility of KDE changing their > license. I cannot speak for KDE, but I suspect they are reluctant to change > from the GPL. Which is well within their rights. Bu