Re: Home Directory in SSD

2016-02-07 Thread Leslie S Satenstein
Hi MartinThose tests were performed in December 2014 some 14 months ago. Since then we have newer designs and better SSD microcode. To the readers who are worried about SWAP and heavy drive use. Do you write 20 terrabytes per day for the next 3 years?  That is what the vendors appear to offer.

Re: Home Directory in SSD

2016-02-07 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 8 Feb 2016, Peter Pentchev wrote: > On the other hand, mailboxes and Maildirs really like to live on SSDs - > if you're one of those dinosaurs like me who still like to fetch all > their e-mail locally and use a local MUA to read it. I thought every real geek uses SSH into their own mai

Re: Home Directory in SSD

2016-02-07 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Aleksandar Atanasov wrote: > Hi Jos, > > Usually SSDs are used to store things that you want to load as fast as > possible. Generally this includes files, that the OS requires during its > booting, application that you use very often etc. I would recommend

Re: Swap

2016-02-07 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Sun, 2016-02-07 at 17:02 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: first, I assume the orgiinal poster is talking anout third party software not coming ad .deb packages. On 07.02.16 16:23, llcfree wrote: Again, apologies, probably I was confused because this is a debian list. no problem, we ha

Re: Swap

2016-02-07 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 07.02.16 18:45, Michael wrote: Why dn't we just assume that Leslie knwos what he's doing ?? I mean, come on, there are lots of possibilities, like Matus' pointed out or like he wanted to test different desktops coming with different distros, and maybe even how distros do their installation.

Re: Home Directory in SSD

2016-02-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! I see no issues against uses btrfs send/receive or rsync as backup from SSD to HDD. With btrfs send/receive I think after the initial sync it can even work quickly enough to have it run every 10 minutes or so. But if RAID allows write-mostly, why not. I think BTRFS RAID does not (yet). Am

Re: Home Directory in SSD

2016-02-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016, 22:06:16 CET schrieb Jos Collin: > On 02/07/2016 03:50 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > If you have both an SSD and a HD in your machine, how about rsync or BTRFS > > send and receive to regularily backup /home from SSD to HD? > > > > With BTRFS on the HD, you can eve

Re: Swap

2016-02-07 Thread Michael
Hey folks, Why dn't we just assume that Leslie knwos what he's doing ?? I mean, come on, there are lots of possibilities, like Matus' pointed out or like he wanted to test different desktops coming with different distros, and maybe even how distros do their installation. Going through package

Re: Home Directory in SSD

2016-02-07 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016, 00:57:24 CET schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: I consider two possibilities for my home PC 1. mirror SSD and HDD (I currently have two old 120 HDDs in mirror) On 07.02.16 11:12, Martin Steigerwald wrote: I think this can be done with regular rsync or btrfs send/recei

Re: Home Directory in SSD

2016-02-07 Thread Jos Collin
On 02/07/2016 03:50 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: If you have both an SSD and a HD in your machine, how about rsync or BTRFS send and receive to regularily backup /home from SSD to HD? With BTRFS on the HD, you can even snapshot your backup states and if you accidentally delete a file get it b

Re: Swap

2016-02-07 Thread llcfree
On Sun, 2016-02-07 at 17:02 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 07.02.16 10:57, llcfree wrote: > >From: llcfree > >To: Matus UHLAR - fantomas > >Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org > >Subject: Re: Swap > > I don't need private copies of the list mail, please avoid them. > Use list-reply ins

Re: Swap

2016-02-07 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 07.02.16 10:57, llcfree wrote: From: llcfree To: Matus UHLAR - fantomas Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Swap I don't need private copies of the list mail, please avoid them. Use list-reply instead of reply to all. On Sun, 2016-02-07 at 00:39 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas

Re: Aw: Change home and root directories

2016-02-07 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sunday, 7 Feb 2016 at 00:22, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 05.02.16 22:29, Jos Collin wrote: >>Yes, I have seen that option. But what about putting /root in another >> disk ? > > Technically possible. But root's home directory (originally, "/" as > root of the filesystem) was never suppose

Re: Swap

2016-02-07 Thread llcfree
On Sun, 2016-02-07 at 00:39 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 06.02.16 16:52, Leslie S Satenstein wrote: > >Every few weeks I delete my Linux partitions on the SSD and I reinstall > > (another ) system. The reason I do it that way is simple -- I look at a > > lot of software, and it is eas

Re: Home Directory in SSD

2016-02-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016, 08:48:55 CET schrieb Jos Collin: > Hi, Hi Jos, > First of all, I apologize for starting an off-topic discussion. > > i'm using an Intel 535 Series 120GB SSD. So I believe that it is > reliable and good quality product. I am very pleased with my Intel SSD 320 and bac

Re: Home Directory in SSD

2016-02-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016, 00:57:24 CET schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: > On 06.02.16 19:30, Jos Collin wrote: > >I have Debian/testing installed completely in my 120GB SSD. I have > >learned that if an SSD fails, it is difficult to recover data from > >them. An SSD often does not give much warni

Re: Home Directory in SSD

2016-02-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016, 00:11:30 CET schrieb Aleksandar Atanasov: > As for the quality of SSDs - yes, it has improved greatly (example for > some test of longevity: > http://techreport.com/review/27436/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-two-freaking > -petabytes). I have read however that SSDs are m