Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 22:06 schrieb Matej Cepl:
> Michael Koch wrote:
> > A big problem is that we don't get enough feedback from users
> > with bug reports. More bug reports would be wonderful. All the
> > people out there seem to like to use (buggy) proprietary software
> > more than free
On Thursday 06 January 2005 17:09, you wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 21:11 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> >
> > "What is Kaffe not?
> > ...
> > Kaffe is constantly under development, and lacks compatibility in
> > many ways with the current releases of Java. It lacks many key
> > features of a
Michael Koch wrote:
> A big problem is that we don't get enough feedback from users with bug
> reports. More bug reports would be wonderful. All the people out
> there seem to like to use (buggy) proprietary software more than free
> software and report issues if there are some. Free Java in Debian
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 22:09 schrieb Michael Koch:
> This information is really old and not up-to-date. And you overrate
> the meaning of it.
*g* I guess it's time to update the project site, then ;)
BTW: the site layout is really bad, e.g. on
http://www.kaffe.org/compatibility_applicatio
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 21:11 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 15:58, Michael Koch wrote:
> > I give up. "is not usable" is not really describing a problem. We
> > can't even guess what your problem is out of this. There are many
> > people out there that are happy with
On Thursday 06 January 2005 15:58, Michael Koch wrote:
>
> I give up. "is not usable" is not really describing a problem. We
> can't even guess what your problem is out of this. There are many
> people out there that are happy with the free runtimes already.
>
I give up, too. I haven't been tryin
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 17:45 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 12:28, tomas pospisek wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Derek Broughton wrote:
> > > On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote:
> > > > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
>
Derek Broughton pointerstop.ca> writes:
> I agree. I have explicitly _not_ used such words as "crap" though. The
> problem is that kaffe (specifically - I haven't tried sablevm) has never been
> at a stage where I could use if for my own applications. If I can't use it
> _at all_ it's hard
On Thursday 06 January 2005 12:28, tomas pospisek wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Derek Broughton wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote:
> > > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> > > > If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years pas
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 16:55 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> > > If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years
> > > past that. I tried to use kaffe, but I have
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Derek Broughton wrote:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> > > If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years past
> > > that. I tried to use kaffe, but I have to go back and r
On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> > If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years past
> > that. I tried to use kaffe, but I have to go back and rewrite far
> > too much.
>
> If you would provide mo
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years past
> that. I tried to use kaffe, but I have to go back and rewrite far
> too much.
If you would provide more info we could work on your problem but with
so much informati
On Thursday 06 January 2005 09:17, Michael Koch wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 13:52 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> > On Thursday 06 January 2005 06:42, Michael Koch wrote:
> > > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj
>
> Andersen:
> > > > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:3
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:29 schrieb Rafael Rodríguez:
> Erm.. that's nice, but when i talked about an intro, i meant what's
> the status of each solution right now (kaffe, sablevm, gcj, etc).
>
> For the simple things i do with java, jikes + kaffe work great.
> Jikes is blinking fast and pr
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:08 schrieb tomas pospisek:
> Unless Gadek is a blockhead you both should be able to find a
> solution where the package only consists of dependencies and where
> the user can choose one or the other. Or at least that's what
> rationality would imply. *t
He is sure
Erm.. that's nice, but when i talked about an intro, i meant what's the status
of each solution right now (kaffe, sablevm, gcj, etc).
For the simple things i do with java, jikes + kaffe work great. Jikes is
blinking fast and provides much better error output than sun's
Regards,
Rafael Rodrígue
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Michael Koch wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 14:23 schrieb Daniel Serpell:
[...]
> > ~$ apt-cache show free-java-sdk
> > Package: free-java-sdk
> > [...]
> > Depends: jikes-sablevm, fastjar, sablevm, classpath-tools
> > [...]
> > Description: Complete Java SDK environmen
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 14:23 schrieb Daniel Serpell:
> Hi!
>
> El Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:42:54AM +0100, Michael Koch escribio:
> > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj
Andersen:
> > > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > > > Or maybe Sable VM
Hi!
El Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:42:54AM +0100, Michael Koch escribio:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
> > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > > Or maybe Sable VM (not sure if there is a Debian package for it)
> >
> > It's in unstable
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 12:47 schrieb Rafael Rodríguez:
> El Jueves, 6 de Enero de 2005 11:12, Michael Koch escribió:
> > Some of the "facts" in this document are outdated and others are
> > just wrong or incomplete.I will try to get some free time to
> > update it.
>
> Can u give us a little
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 13:52 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 06:42, Michael Koch wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj
Andersen:
> > > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > > > Or maybe Sable VM (not sure if the
On Thursday 06 January 2005 06:42, Michael Koch wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
> > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > > Or maybe Sable VM (not sure if there is a Debian package for it)
> >
> > It's in unstable. And I seem to
El Jueves, 6 de Enero de 2005 11:12, Michael Koch escribió:
> Some of the "facts" in this document are outdated and others are just
> wrong or incomplete.I will try to get some free time to update it.
Can u give us a little informal intro? Would be nice to know about the actual
status of debian j
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 12:00 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:42, Michael Koch wrote:
> > > It's in unstable. And I seem to remember that it is in fact the
> > > recommended free jvm for Debian.
> >
> > Where have you read this ? As a free java developer an
On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:42, Michael Koch wrote:
> > It's in unstable. And I seem to remember that it is in fact the
> > recommended free jvm for Debian.
>
> Where have you read this ? As a free java developer and part of the
> Debian Java effort I would recommend kaffe.
I don't remember. I
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
> On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > Or maybe Sable VM (not sure if there is a Debian package for it)
>
> It's in unstable. And I seem to remember that it is in fact the
> recommended free jvm for Debia
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> Or maybe Sable VM (not sure if there is a Debian package for it)
It's in unstable. And I seem to remember that it is in fact the recommended
free jvm for Debian.
Anders
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