Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 17:45 schrieb Derek Broughton: > On Thursday 06 January 2005 12:28, tomas pospisek wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Derek Broughton wrote: > > > On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote: > > > > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton: > > > > > If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years > > > > > past that. I tried to use kaffe, but I have to go back and > > > > > rewrite far too much. > > > > > > > > If you would provide more info we could work on your problem > > > > but with so much information I can't help you. > > > > > > There's no "information" because I need a Java2 runtime. > > > > I guess being constructive could f.ex. mean (in that order): > > > > 1. going through the list and noting where Java1 & Java2 differ > > 2. checking whether/where the free implementations (do not) > > conform 3. send patches > > > > Saying that the free VMs doesn't implement all of Java2 may help > > people not to waste their time on trying out different > > combinations of OSS, but I can't see how going on ranting about > > how crap the free implementations are will help anybody. > > I agree. I have explicitly _not_ used such words as "crap" though. > The problem is that kaffe (specifically - I haven't tried sablevm) > has never been at a stage where I could use if for my own > applications. If I can't use it _at all_ it's hard to get involved > to the point where I could even do 1 & 2, let alone 3. And for the > record, I wasn't "going on ranting" - Michael asked for specific > details and I told him I couldn't give any because kaffe had never > been usable for me.
I give up. "is not usable" is not really describing a problem. We can't even guess what your problem is out of this. There are many people out there that are happy with the free runtimes already. Michael -- Homepage: http://www.worldforge.org/
