On Thursday 06 January 2005 12:28, tomas pospisek wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Derek Broughton wrote: > > On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton: > > > > If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years past > > > > that. I tried to use kaffe, but I have to go back and rewrite far > > > > too much. > > > > > > If you would provide more info we could work on your problem but with > > > so much information I can't help you. > > > > There's no "information" because I need a Java2 runtime. > > I guess being constructive could f.ex. mean (in that order): > > 1. going through the list and noting where Java1 & Java2 differ > 2. checking whether/where the free implementations (do not) conform > 3. send patches > > Saying that the free VMs doesn't implement all of Java2 may help people > not to waste their time on trying out different combinations of OSS, but > I can't see how going on ranting about how crap the free implementations > are will help anybody.
I agree. I have explicitly _not_ used such words as "crap" though. The problem is that kaffe (specifically - I haven't tried sablevm) has never been at a stage where I could use if for my own applications. If I can't use it _at all_ it's hard to get involved to the point where I could even do 1 & 2, let alone 3. And for the record, I wasn't "going on ranting" - Michael asked for specific details and I told him I couldn't give any because kaffe had never been usable for me. -- derek