Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 22:06 schrieb Matej Cepl:
> Michael Koch wrote:
> > A big problem is that we don't get enough feedback from users
> > with bug reports. More bug reports would be wonderful. All the
> > people out there seem to like to use (buggy) proprietary software
> > more than free
On Thursday 06 January 2005 17:09, you wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 21:11 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> >
> > "What is Kaffe not?
> > ...
> > Kaffe is constantly under development, and lacks compatibility in
> > many ways with the current releases of Java. It lacks many key
> > features of a
Michael Koch wrote:
> A big problem is that we don't get enough feedback from users with bug
> reports. More bug reports would be wonderful. All the people out
> there seem to like to use (buggy) proprietary software more than free
> software and report issues if there are some. Free Java in Debian
On Wed 5 January 2005 04:54, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 5. Januar 2005 07:48 schrieb jianan:
> > I would like to be completely free, software-wise, but do I have a
> > choice in this case, if a vendor site uses Java applets to fill
> > forms?
>
> Since konqueror does not rely on a mozill
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 22:09 schrieb Michael Koch:
> This information is really old and not up-to-date. And you overrate
> the meaning of it.
*g* I guess it's time to update the project site, then ;)
BTW: the site layout is really bad, e.g. on
http://www.kaffe.org/compatibility_applicatio
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 21:11 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 15:58, Michael Koch wrote:
> > I give up. "is not usable" is not really describing a problem. We
> > can't even guess what your problem is out of this. There are many
> > people out there that are happy with
On Thursday 06 January 2005 15:58, Michael Koch wrote:
>
> I give up. "is not usable" is not really describing a problem. We
> can't even guess what your problem is out of this. There are many
> people out there that are happy with the free runtimes already.
>
I give up, too. I haven't been tryin
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 17:45 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 12:28, tomas pospisek wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Derek Broughton wrote:
> > > On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote:
> > > > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
>
Derek Broughton pointerstop.ca> writes:
> I agree. I have explicitly _not_ used such words as "crap" though. The
> problem is that kaffe (specifically - I haven't tried sablevm) has never been
> at a stage where I could use if for my own applications. If I can't use it
> _at all_ it's hard
On Thursday 06 January 2005 12:28, tomas pospisek wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Derek Broughton wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote:
> > > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> > > > If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years pas
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 16:55 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> > > If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years
> > > past that. I tried to use kaffe, but I have
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Derek Broughton wrote:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> > > If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years past
> > > that. I tried to use kaffe, but I have to go back and r
On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:39, Michael Koch wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> > If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years past
> > that. I tried to use kaffe, but I have to go back and rewrite far
> > too much.
>
> If you would provide mo
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:47 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> If I can't use Swing, it's useless. Sorry, but we're years past
> that. I tried to use kaffe, but I have to go back and rewrite far
> too much.
If you would provide more info we could work on your problem but with
so much informati
On Thursday 06 January 2005 09:17, Michael Koch wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 13:52 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> > On Thursday 06 January 2005 06:42, Michael Koch wrote:
> > > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj
>
> Andersen:
> > > > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:3
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:29 schrieb Rafael Rodríguez:
> Erm.. that's nice, but when i talked about an intro, i meant what's
> the status of each solution right now (kaffe, sablevm, gcj, etc).
>
> For the simple things i do with java, jikes + kaffe work great.
> Jikes is blinking fast and pr
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 15:08 schrieb tomas pospisek:
> Unless Gadek is a blockhead you both should be able to find a
> solution where the package only consists of dependencies and where
> the user can choose one or the other. Or at least that's what
> rationality would imply. *t
He is sure
Erm.. that's nice, but when i talked about an intro, i meant what's the status
of each solution right now (kaffe, sablevm, gcj, etc).
For the simple things i do with java, jikes + kaffe work great. Jikes is
blinking fast and provides much better error output than sun's
Regards,
Rafael Rodrígue
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Michael Koch wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 14:23 schrieb Daniel Serpell:
[...]
> > ~$ apt-cache show free-java-sdk
> > Package: free-java-sdk
> > [...]
> > Depends: jikes-sablevm, fastjar, sablevm, classpath-tools
> > [...]
> > Description: Complete Java SDK environmen
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 14:23 schrieb Daniel Serpell:
> Hi!
>
> El Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:42:54AM +0100, Michael Koch escribio:
> > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj
Andersen:
> > > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > > > Or maybe Sable VM
Hi!
El Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:42:54AM +0100, Michael Koch escribio:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
> > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > > Or maybe Sable VM (not sure if there is a Debian package for it)
> >
> > It's in unstable
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 12:47 schrieb Rafael Rodríguez:
> El Jueves, 6 de Enero de 2005 11:12, Michael Koch escribió:
> > Some of the "facts" in this document are outdated and others are
> > just wrong or incomplete.I will try to get some free time to
> > update it.
>
> Can u give us a little
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 13:52 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 06:42, Michael Koch wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj
Andersen:
> > > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > > > Or maybe Sable VM (not sure if the
On Thursday 06 January 2005 06:42, Michael Koch wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
> > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > > Or maybe Sable VM (not sure if there is a Debian package for it)
> >
> > It's in unstable. And I seem to
El Jueves, 6 de Enero de 2005 11:12, Michael Koch escribió:
> Some of the "facts" in this document are outdated and others are just
> wrong or incomplete.I will try to get some free time to update it.
Can u give us a little informal intro? Would be nice to know about the actual
status of debian j
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 12:00 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:42, Michael Koch wrote:
> > > It's in unstable. And I seem to remember that it is in fact the
> > > recommended free jvm for Debian.
> >
> > Where have you read this ? As a free java developer an
On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:42, Michael Koch wrote:
> > It's in unstable. And I seem to remember that it is in fact the
> > recommended free jvm for Debian.
>
> Where have you read this ? As a free java developer and part of the
> Debian Java effort I would recommend kaffe.
I don't remember. I
Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2005 11:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
> On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > Or maybe Sable VM (not sure if there is a Debian package for it)
>
> It's in unstable. And I seem to remember that it is in fact the
> recommended free jvm for Debia
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 12:38, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> Or maybe Sable VM (not sure if there is a Debian package for it)
It's in unstable. And I seem to remember that it is in fact the recommended
free jvm for Debian.
Anders
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 10:54, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 5. Januar 2005 07:48 schrieb jianan:
> > I would like to be completely free, software-wise, but do I have a choice
> > in this case, if a vendor site uses Java applets to fill forms?
>
> Since konqueror does not rely on a moz
Am Mittwoch, 5. Januar 2005 07:48 schrieb jianan:
> I would like to be completely free, software-wise, but do I have a choice
> in this case, if a vendor site uses Java applets to fill forms?
Since konqueror does not rely on a mozilla-plugin, it should be able to use
any java interpreter. Kaffe i
I would like to be completely free, software-wise, but do I have a choice in
this case, if a vendor site uses Java applets to fill forms?
Jianan
On Tue 4 January 2005 05:00, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> So to what message does this answer belong. You're not only breaking
> threading but also avoid quoting?
> Actually, you are the very first one that I know that is able to get
> such crap out of KMail :-(
>
I was wondering what you were talkin
Am Dienstag, 4. Januar 2005 15:28 schrieb jianan:
> Thanks for all the info. I had got it working in Konqueror.
> I went to Sun site, downloaded a self-extracting binary of j2re-1.4..2_06,
> do a 'sh', make some dirs and set Konqueror Java & Javascript to point to
> the path of 'java'. The download
Thanks for all the info. I had got it working in Konqueror.
I went to Sun site, downloaded a self-extracting binary of j2re-1.4..2_06, do
a 'sh', make some dirs and set Konqueror Java & Javascript to point to the
path of 'java'. The download was about 14MB.
As a side discussion, wouldn't having
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 06:00, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
>
> So to what message does this answer belong. You're not only breaking
> threading but also avoid quoting?
> Actually, you are the very first one that I know that is able to get such
> crap out of KMail :-(
LOL. I had to check, because th
Am Dienstag, 4. Januar 2005 12:17 schrieben Sie:
> You're the second person that has responded in a rude manner to this
> poster.
Not quite. I previously kindly asked him in a private mail please to not mess
up mailing list threads. Why? Because it makes following the discussion in
the archive (
You're the second person that has responded in a rude manner to this poster.
No one is forcing you to reply. If you can't do it in a normal manner, just
don't.
Chris
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 11:00, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 4. Januar 2005 10:05 schrieb jianan:
> > Could not do a
Am Dienstag, 4. Januar 2005 10:05 schrieb jianan:
> Could not do a 'apt-get update'. There was error 404 about site not found.
> 'apt-get install' gave the following msg.
>
> Reading Package Lists...
> Building Dependency Tree...
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
>
Am Dienstag, 4. Januar 2005 05:29 schrieb jianan:
> I'm using sarge, kernel 2.6.8 and kde 3.2.2.
> I'm having problem filling-in ofrms online.Suspect I need Java plug-in.
> From SUN's Java site, download for the plug-in is not available for Debian.
> Is it available as
Hi
Could not do a 'apt-get update'. There was error 404 about site not found.
'apt-get install' gave the following msg.
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the
jianan wrote:
> I'm using sarge, kernel 2.6.8 and kde 3.2.2.
> I'm having problem filling-in ofrms online.Suspect I need Java plug-in.
> From SUN's Java site, download for the plug-in is not available for
> Debian. Is it available as a Debian package?
deb http://
Hi,
I'm using sarge, kernel 2.6.8 and kde 3.2.2.
I'm having problem filling-in ofrms online.Suspect I need Java plug-in. From
SUN's Java site, download for the plug-in is not available for Debian.
Is it available as a Debian package?
Jianan
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