On Friday 14 March 2003 09:47, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> No, but you're running into a different type of problem. KDE 1 was using Qt
> 1 which is not free software, hence the reason why KDE 1 wasn't part of
> debian.
Now that is an argument I understand. Limited by the freedom of the tools you
are usi
On Friday 14 March 2003 09:44, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> For KDE surveys, debian is probably
> one of the best platforms due to that, and you can also further elaborate
> on the problems that users experience with debian as a desktop system.
Amen to that, /except/ the problem that some of the important
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Am Freitag, 14. März 2003 22:18 schrieb Steve Lamb:
> To me KDE is usable exported over a 100Mbit ethernet. Some people
> would find it slow. OTOH there are some cases when using such a remote
> display is slow. For example (not KDE related, but
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 01:19:06 +0100
Frank Van Damme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> People also seem to differ in their perception os speed - some find any
> computer older then 2 years unbearably slow, others will say they don't
> notice too much difference between a P200 and a GHz computer.
T
On Thursday 13 March 2003 03:26 pm, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> > Hmm, maybe I misunderstood -- I thought you created the survey?
>
> Heh, no, not at all :-)
Frank,
Well, good! (I didn't want to say the survey seemed quite slanted to
achieve a certain result, but that's sure what it seemed like.)
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On Donnerstag, 13. März 2003 20:48, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> On Thursday 13 March 2003 19:58, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote:
> That said, a survey taken only on Debian-kde is bogus. Your data won't be
> representational. I also think the concept of "useabil
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On Donnerstag, 13. März 2003 22:16, Bruce Sass wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote:
> > On Thursday 13 March 2003 01:08, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 12 March 2003 21:27, Randy Kramer wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > >* T
>> This is good to know. So, chown root:root /tmp/.ICE-unix directory will
>> increase system performance?
>>
>> What about removing kwrited and Klipper? Are these safe changes for
speed
>> improvements?
>
>http://dforce.sh.cvut.cz/~seli/download/tips.html
>
>Please look at Seli's page there and y
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:16:03 -0700 (MST)
Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It would be interesting to know why the bleeding edge people insist on
> > using old hardware.
>
> - we like pushing the envelope in all directions
> - crippling a nice new machine with unstable software
> doesn'
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote:
> On Thursday 13 March 2003 01:08, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> > On Wednesday 12 March 2003 21:27, Randy Kramer wrote:
> ...
> > >* The optimization effort currently going on in kde.
> >
> > I wasn't really aware of this :-)
ditto :-)
> It would
On Thursday 13 March 2003 21:16, Randy Kramer wrote:
> On Thursday 13 March 2003 02:24 pm, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> > Petition! I won't go so far. Theyt asked my opinion about what I
> > thought would be the best thing to do to improve kde's useability. I
> > answered it. That's about it.
>
> Hmm,
On Thursday 13 March 2003 02:24 pm, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> Petition! I won't go so far. Theyt asked my opinion about what I
> thought would be the best thing to do to improve kde's useability. I
> answered it. That's about it.
Hmm, maybe I misunderstood -- I thought you created the survey?
Anyw
On Thursday 13 March 2003 19:58, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote:
> > You're a bit paranoid I think :-)
>
> That's the only way to avoid unwanted use of data: Don't give them.
Yeah... but I consider the fact that kde folks know my opinion about the
layout of the preferences window in Konqueror harmless.
On Thursday 13 March 2003 12:57, Randy Kramer wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 March 2003 07:08 pm, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> > >* The optimization effort currently going on in kde.
> >
> > I wasn't really aware of this :-)
> >
> > Still I think it doesn't hurt if the developpers understand the need
> >
On Thursday 13 March 2003 01:08, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 March 2003 21:27, Randy Kramer wrote:
...
> > I'm going on record here saying I don't want to be part of that
> > statistic. If you tell me what your agenda is, I might or might not be
> > willing to support it.
>
> You're a
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 07:08 pm, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> You're a bit paranoid I think :-)
Probably!
> >* The optimization effort currently going on in kde.
>
> I wasn't really aware of this :-)
>
> Still I think it doesn't hurt if the developpers understand the need
> for it. That's why
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On Donnerstag, 13. März 2003 05:29, John Gay wrote:
> >On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 01:23:36AM +0100, Frank Van Damme scrawled:
> >> Could you elaborate on the ICE-unix trick?? And wasn't kwrited a text
>
> editor?
>
> >Making the .ICE-unix directory owned
>On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 01:23:36AM +0100, Frank Van Damme scrawled:
>> Could you elaborate on the ICE-unix trick?? And wasn't kwrited a text
editor?
>
>Making the .ICE-unix directory owned by root.root makes things run a lot
>faster, IPC-wise, and kwrite is the text editor - kwrited is a daemon t
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 01:23:36AM +0100, Frank Van Damme scrawled:
> Could you elaborate on the ICE-unix trick?? And wasn't kwrited a text editor?
Making the .ICE-unix directory owned by root.root makes things run a lot
faster, IPC-wise, and kwrite is the text editor - kwrited is a daemon to
han
On Thursday 13 March 2003 00:31, Nick Leverton wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:28:15PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > On Wednesday 12 March 2003 21:42, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> > > Second, It may not be the design goal to run on the lowest end
> > > stuff (like a system built out of Linux,
On Thursday 13 March 2003 00:01, kosh wrote:
> I don't care if it becomes 10 times as large as Windows XP so long as it is
> using that to do something useful. For example the kde ioslaves save me a
> huge ammount of time since I can use just about any url protcol from any
> app transparently. I re
On Thursday 13 March 2003 00:10, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > Then show them a light window manager, like wmaker or blackbox (and
> > friends). Having KDE be usable on extremely low-end hardware just isn't
> > a design goal of KDE.
>
> Well, by default it's pretty heavy. But use a few well-known tricks
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 23:28, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 March 2003 21:42, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> > Second, It may not be the design goal to run on the lowest end stuff
> > (like a system built out of Linux, Dietlibc, TinyX and twm or
> > something :-) ), but I hope it isn't th
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 21:27, Randy Kramer wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 March 2003 23:36, perlcgi2000 wrote:
> Sorry, I looked at the survey and just couldn't bear to fill it out. I
> haven't been on the list long, and don't know you, but I couldn't help
> but get the feeling that you have some hidd
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:28:15PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 March 2003 21:42, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> > Second, It may not be the design goal to run on the lowest end stuff
> > (like a system built out of Linux, Dietlibc, TinyX and twm or
> > something :-) ), ..
>
> Cu
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:00:23AM -0800, Brian Nelson scrawled:
> Then show them a light window manager, like wmaker or blackbox (and
> friends). Having KDE be usable on extremely low-end hardware just isn't
> a design goal of KDE.
Well, by default it's pretty heavy. But use a few well-known tri
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 01:42 pm, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> Second, It may not be the design goal to run on the lowest end stuff (like
> a system built out of Linux, Dietlibc, TinyX and twm or something :-) ),
> but I hope it isn't the goal of the kde project to become as big as Windows
> Xp or s
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 21:42, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> Second, It may not be the design goal to run on the lowest end stuff
> (like a system built out of Linux, Dietlibc, TinyX and twm or
> something :-) ), but I hope it isn't the goal of the kde project to
> become as big as Windows Xp or some
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 19:00, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Frank Van Damme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Filled it in with all pleasure, and, since you're asking my opinion
> > anyway, the useability of kde has little to do with menu structures of
> > user-friendlyness, at which it is way ahead of a
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 23:36, perlcgi2000 wrote:
> I'm doing some research into the usability of KDE.
>
> Hopefully the results can be fed into the KDE
> Usability project (http://usability.kde.org) and help
> improve future versions of KDE.
>
> The survey only takes 5 minutes to fill out and can
Frank Van Damme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tuesday 11 March 2003 23:36, perlcgi2000 wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I'm doing some research into the usability of KDE.
>>
>> Hopefully the results can be fed into the KDE
>> Usability project (http://usability.kde.org) and help
>> improve future version
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 23:36, perlcgi2000 wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I'm doing some research into the usability of KDE.
>
> Hopefully the results can be fed into the KDE
> Usability project (http://usability.kde.org) and help
> improve future versions of KDE.
>
> The survey only takes 5 minutes to fill o
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