ronment. (I realize this is directly
contrary to the traceability of the build when debugging problems.)
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if they were in use at some point (although not necessarily the exact time
transitions, but that doesn't look like it would be a serious issue here).
That would require relicensing that file to not be under the GPL, but
looking at the file I'm quite dubious i
ff is not guaranteed), and it makes it
much more annoying to extract a single patch and submit it upstream. You
can duplicate the latter functionality by maintaining separate topic
branches and merging them all, but I found that got tedious, and gbp pq is
now mature enough that it mostly does what I
Buenos Aires Convention.
windlord:/usr/share/doc> grep '[Aa]ll rights reserved' */copyright | wc -l
6900
I wouldn't worry about that one. This one, on the other hand:
> ORACLE PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL. Use is subject to license terms.
I agere with you on.
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eve that's in the works for binary packages. I'm not sure if it's
also in the works for source packages.
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es that change based on the word size or low-level data types
of the hosting platform, which is where a lot of the complexity of C++
symbol handling comes in.
We would need to store something equivalent to the C++ mangled name so
that we can capture all the details of the ABI.
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fic packaging system.
In other words, the goals are great, but what jdeb is doing is a little
like building Red Hat packages without using spec files or (perhaps closer
to home) replacing Maven with a system that builds Java JAR files using
Perl. Even if that Perl script works really well r
till
letting you use git-import-orig. (I separately replied to your wishlist
bug, but figured I'd say that here too for the record.)
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has been subsumed into new javac functionality as of Java 6. I'm not sure
about the other ones.
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> I volunteer to keep working on it (java6, ..) ?
I'd *prefer* if someone else did it since I don't have a lot of time, but
I'm willing to sponsor the package if no one else has resources, since
we'll definitely use it.
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ce the Oracle Java
packages were maintained for quite some time after java-package was
removed from the archive, including packages of versions that would have
run into that java-package bug. Unless they were done with a version of
java-package that wasn't uploaded, but that seems strange.
-
e of java-package is that it's set up to be a packagable and
redistributable piece of software, rather than having to distribute the
packaging separately and then explain to people how to glue that together
with the Oracle download.
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ded" for such
use. I think that's benign.
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libraries from source that could require even more work.
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sure this isn't supposed to be -DskipTests? That's what works for
me with Maven. For example, from one of our internal packages'
debian/rules:
override_dh_auto_build:
mvn package -DskipTests
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folks here, who hopefully know more about the setup and history.
Note that it's going to be hard to ensure that it's enabled on any system,
since users may be building their own kernels without including that
support.
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y, the user has
to be running binfmt_misc (the Linux kernel extension that makes this
work). Without that, the kernel will pass the executable to the shell,
which will then explode with the error messages you show.
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these "ITAR"-style
> restrictions floating about, but I don't recall the last time I saw one.
We should be okay on this these days. Debian has a system where it
registers all software that we upload for export, which is all that's
required now for free software.
n. It's absolutely amazing how much stuff it
downloads in order to do anything.
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e help would be a command line
> which builds the JAR.
Would something as simple as:
jar cf .jar *.class
after compiling all the *.java files with javac be workable in this case?
Maven will of course work but it may introduce a fair bit of complexity.
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base
installation. I assume you mean one of the desktop tasks?
Java web applets are relatively rare these days in my experience, at least
compared to Flash. I run into them, but not daily.
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, we run a federated identity system called Shibboleth, and the
identity provider component is a large Tomcat application with lots of
dependencies. I would like to work with the Shibboleth and Java teams to
get that software packaged properly for Debian.
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or more copies of the same
library at different versions, frozen there because no one dares to try to
update and test, and then when that library has a security vulnerability,
you have to backport the fix to all these slightly different versions.
It's a nightmare.
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Stefane Fermigier writes:
> On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> For those of us who have been doing this sort of thing for a while,
>> this argument sounds very familiar. I've heard this argument applied
>> to C libraries, Perl modules, Python modul
t has always proven to be completely wrong in the long run.
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typical and not at all abnormal in the Linux distribution ecosystem. We
should continue working towards supporting Java in the main archive, but
let's not lose site of the fact that third-party repositories are often a
fine intermediate solution.
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of source availability and licensing,
and Maven's very tight and specific versioning support means that people
are not as careful about ABI compatibility as they really should be.
It's going to be a hard problem.
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rvlet engine to which the servlet is
being deployed.
It's exactly for solving problems like this that I propose that layer of
indirection on top of the actual servlets, so that there's a program that
can inspect the servlet, inspect the installed servlet engines, and
selectively deploy as appro
lt;-c> flag is probably not sufficient to handle web applications that
require a particular set of containers. There will probably need to be
another flag to specify the supported containers as input to the choice of
container for deployment (and so that a proper error message can be given
if none of t
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Title: Java Web Application Packaging
DEP: 7
State: DRAFT
Date: 2010-08-24
Drivers: Russ Allbery
URL: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep7
License: http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt
Abstract:
Propose a file layout, set of conventions and best practices, and a
Matthew Johnson writes:
> On Sun Aug 22 17:41, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Matthew Johnson writes:
>>> I'm not sure that you need to ship them as conffiles though - lots of
>>> package have this sort of thing in /usr/share/doc/$package/examples
>>> (the jsp
figuration file in /etc that points to any directory of templates that
the user wants to use.)
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<%@ page import="edu.internet2.middleware.shibboleth.idp.authn.LoginContext" %>
&
Russ Allbery writes:
> Torsten Werner writes:
>> 2) I thinks about how is it done in the good old Unix way? If you want
>> to modify /bin/true you can put your own implementation into
>> /usr/local/bin and you are done. Does Tomcat use some PATH like
>> variable to l
Torsten Werner writes:
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> The JSP files for this application need to be conffiles so that users
>> can change them and those changes are preserved during upgrades.
> no I don't think that JSP files are good c
it seems the cleanest.
Is this something where Tomcat may eventually be able to help us, by
providing some way to put the files for a webapp in multiple places so
that conffiles can be kept separate from package files?
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thors to create a derivative work. We want to honor their
license. Unless GPLv3 licensors relax this interpretation of their own
license regarding linking, our licensing philosophies are
fundamentally incompatible. This is an identical issue for both GPLv2
and GPLv3.
This is exactl
crappy
license). Here's the equivalent clause in the PHP license:
4. Products derived from this software may not be called "PHP", nor
may "PHP" appear in their name, without prior written permission
from gr...@php.net. You may indicate that your sof
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