Re: Policy change proposal, Re: Bug#176628: sablevm: package incorrctly provides java1-runtime

2003-01-20 Thread Geoff Beaumont
ionality of packages and should come across as honest and straightforward. And the clincher: How many times do you want to explain to newbies that a package that provides java1-runtime doesn't really contain a full Java 1 runtime environment? ;c) -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Policy change proposal, Re: Bug#176628: sablevm: package incorrctlyprovides java1-runtime

2003-01-20 Thread Geoff Beaumont
ionality of packages and should come across as honest and straightforward. And the clincher: How many times do you want to explain to newbies that a package that provides java1-runtime doesn't really contain a full Java 1 runtime environment? ;c) -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- T

Re: Blackdown JDK conflicts with java2-common

2002-07-08 Thread Geoff Beaumont
ppeared to have been abandoned - they were several months older than the tar files and a version with known bugs that had been fixed in the tars. -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Blackdown JDK conflicts with java2-common

2002-07-08 Thread Geoff Beaumont
version/date as the tar files. Last time I checked the debs appeared to have been abandoned - they were several months older than the tar files and a version with known bugs that had been fixed in the tars. -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Best way to install JDK 1.4 on woody?

2002-05-30 Thread Geoff Beaumont
unstable branches at the moment. -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Best way to install JDK 1.4 on woody?

2002-05-30 Thread Geoff Beaumont
rg it's only in testing and unstable branches at the moment. -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Java plugin advocacy

2002-05-28 Thread Geoff Beaumont
already have the plugin required. Assuming the user has the necessary permissions it can be as simple as clicking the 'install this plugin' link. Even complete technophobes (I work with some of them ;c) manage that without even thinking. -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To

Re: Java plugin advocacy

2002-05-28 Thread Geoff Beaumont
already have the plugin required. Assuming the user has the necessary permissions it can be as simple as clicking the 'install this plugin' link. Even complete technophobes (I work with some of them ;c) manage that without even thinking. -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To

Re: SUN java

2002-05-16 Thread Geoff Beaumont
it starts but segfaults a variable but generally short time afterwards. Either way, it's not usable. I was going to check and see if they'd fixed it, but obviously not... Mind, I haven't filed a bug report for it, so I can't really whinge ;c) -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To

Re: SUN java

2002-05-16 Thread Geoff Beaumont
Sun's j2sdk1.4. On Mandrake 8.0 it starts but segfaults a variable but generally short time afterwards. Either way, it's not usable. I was going to check and see if they'd fixed it, but obviously not... Mind, I haven't filed a bug report for it, so I can't really whinge

Re: Java Policy.

2002-05-13 Thread Geoff Beaumont
w and then helps many people > a lot... It may save us a lot of confusion... How about referring to the relevant section of the main Debian policy, with a brief summary specifically applied to Java? -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Java Policy.

2002-05-13 Thread Geoff Beaumont
er now and then helps many people > a lot... It may save us a lot of confusion... How about referring to the relevant section of the main Debian policy, with a brief summary specifically applied to Java? -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: deb for netbeans

2002-05-08 Thread Geoff Beaumont
ke jEdit as much. Personally, I found the gui aids more obstructive than helpful, but I guess it depends a lot on how you work. Ultimately, sluggish performance is the price you pay for any heavy weight IDE. -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: deb for netbeans

2002-05-06 Thread Geoff Beaumont
ularly for Java (it's a Java app itself, but much slicker than NetBeans/Forte). It's GPL'd and packaged for Debian, so download and have play ;c) http://jedit.sourceforge.net -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: deb for netbeans

2002-05-06 Thread Geoff Beaumont
ularly for Java (it's a Java app itself, but much slicker than NetBeans/Forte). It's GPL'd and packaged for Debian, so download and have play ;c) http://jedit.sourceforge.net -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: java.home

2002-05-04 Thread Geoff Beaumont
On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 00:09, Geoff Beaumont wrote: > On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 19:23, Juergen Kreileder wrote: > > Geoff Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think you mean /usr/lib/j2re1.3. > > That'd be the one... > > > The problem is that /usr/lib/

Re: java.home

2002-05-04 Thread Geoff Beaumont
On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 00:09, Geoff Beaumont wrote: > On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 19:23, Juergen Kreileder wrote: > > Geoff Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think you mean /usr/lib/j2re1.3. > > That'd be the one... > > > The problem is that /usr/lib/

Re: java.home

2002-05-01 Thread Geoff Beaumont
ME > PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin; export PATH > > Some tools do not use JAVA_HOME, but PATH is always required. > So it may be sufficient just to say > > PATH=$PATH:/bin; export PATH > (Don't forget the "/bin") > > Hope this helps. 'Fraid it doesn&#x

Re: java.home

2002-05-01 Thread Geoff Beaumont
ME > PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin; export PATH > > Some tools do not use JAVA_HOME, but PATH is always required. > So it may be sufficient just to say > > PATH=$PATH:/bin; export PATH > (Don't forget the "/bin") > > Hope this helps. 'Fraid it doesn&#x

Re: java.home

2002-04-29 Thread Geoff Beaumont
On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 10:54, Kamil Podlesak wrote: > On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 12:10:44PM +0100, Geoff Beaumont wrote: > > Can anyone tell me how java.home is determined in Java? On my system > > (Debian Woody, Blackdown JDK1.3) it ends up as /usr/lib/j2se1.3 whatever > >

Re: java.home

2002-04-29 Thread Geoff Beaumont
On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 10:54, Kamil Podlesak wrote: > On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 12:10:44PM +0100, Geoff Beaumont wrote: > > Can anyone tell me how java.home is determined in Java? On my system > > (Debian Woody, Blackdown JDK1.3) it ends up as /usr/lib/j2se1.3 whatever > >

Re: java.home

2002-04-21 Thread Geoff Beaumont
On Sun, 2002-04-21 at 19:23, Juergen Kreileder wrote: > Geoff Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think you mean /usr/lib/j2re1.3. That'd be the one... > The problem is that /usr/lib/j2sdk1.3/jre is a symlink to > /usr/lib/j2re1.3 and due to realpath we end

java.home

2002-04-21 Thread Geoff Beaumont
java.home, but none to how it's determined. -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

java.home

2002-04-21 Thread Geoff Beaumont
java.home, but none to how it's determined. -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian and Java

2002-04-15 Thread Geoff Beaumont
able for Debian, but not from Debian (and not as a Debian package, though you can download the Blackdown JDK - www.blackdown.org - as a Debian deb). > Why is there an extra package with the jdk since you could use the standard > JDK?? Err...you've lost me here. -- Geoff Beaumont [EM

Re: Debian and Java

2002-04-15 Thread Geoff Beaumont
able for Debian, but not from Debian (and not as a Debian package, though you can download the Blackdown JDK - www.blackdown.org - as a Debian deb). > Why is there an extra package with the jdk since you could use the standard > JDK?? Err...you've lost me here. -- Geoff Beaumont [EM