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> Generate the javadoc! gjdoc has been introduced in kaffe in 1.1.5 and
> this mail was for release 1.1.4.
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of
the Kaffe classes. That should bring it up above the cutoff and still
represents a useful addition to the package.
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idn't pick up on the fact that this message is mostly geared to be
humorous then you are probably European or something. In short, we ironed
things out on IRC, Kaffe will move forward, many Java packages will shortly
go into main, Java will remain large, slow, proprietary and silly. Rej
ications
> into main, is maybe a little too much for a single person alone now. It
> seems that most of debian-java developers agree with me [1] on that.
>
> > ps. Developers with platform specific experience who would like to see
> > Kaffe remain on sparc, os390, alpha and so fort
ith respect to maintaining kaffe for Debian is.
> Ean his idea about having a kaffe-strike force was good. But all people
> will have to communicate and participate in the strike force for it to
> work.
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On Thursday 04 March 2004 14:43, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> When I returned to Dallas on the 25th I spent a day or so catching up with
> work and then prepared a Kaffe 1.1.4 package. When I went to upload this
> package I found, once again, that you had already performed an NMU. You
>
er a 1.1.4
package. I'm certain you remember this email:
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I am. Now, is everything that you want in 1.1
; Also, I don't know why it's on -devel? kaffe is -java related... Why was
> it cross posted?.. I do read both lists (and I also receive the mail
> personally!). Who is talking about following the rules? ;-)
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f you wish
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Again, I deeply appreciate your work but I admonish you to follow procedure or
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Debian specific.
>
> -- Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:33:13 +0100
>
> I hope it helps,
Of course it does!
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Is the strategy, going forward, to get Dalibor to always patch
upstream and not use DBS patches?
What is the plan?
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gij. (Thread system unix-pthread is also
> > > needed to run e.g. Eclipse with swt/gtk bindings).
> > >
> > > What do the kaffe developers think. Should kaffe default to pthreads
> > > on
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> I think this is a very good idea. I feel more comfortable when my Java
> packages in main are based on a co-maintained JVM package. Thanks for
> maintaining Kaffe in the past and for acting in the interests of Debian
> instead of your own!
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Oh. Uh, apt-get update helps. Never mind.
On Thursday 15 January 2004 18:01, Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
> Why don't you apt-get source kaffe? I did not change a lot of things
> from your package. I did remove the patches and every thing is in the
> changelog i think.
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> changelog i think.
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I am, but I have never claimed to be organized, detailed, or even particularly
clueful.
I just missed it.
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 23:42, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> You aren't subscribed to debian-devel-announce?
>
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There has already been explained in each bugs. Dalibor Topic and I did
> track all of them to see if they were closed (there was upstream
> bugs).
>
> What I did is give a reference in the upstream changelog so that you can
> go and read the entry. If you prefer I copy paste each
ackages
> and free java programs with each release. Are there bugs in the newer
> versions that prevent them from being packaged for Debian?
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have 1.1.2 and 1.1.3 packages but I need to finish including the changes
from the NMU. That's mostly done and I'll get an upload out as soon as I can.
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> Ean, didn't you upload an 1.1.2 release of kaffe?
>
> If you are ready to upload an 1.1.3 release, don't forget the
> patches from the NMU.
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I just sent a 1.1.2 upload into incoming. Lets see what the various platform
builds make of it.
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 14:59, Dalibor Topic wrote:
> Those build failures should have been fixed in 1.1.2. They were mostly
> introduced by the new gcc version being more strict about bad code
I just sent a 1.1.2 upload into incoming. Lets see what the various platform
builds make of it.
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 14:59, Dalibor Topic wrote:
> Those build failures should have been fixed in 1.1.2. They were mostly
> introduced by the new gcc version being more strict about bad code
x27;m going to go ahead and upload 1.1.2. We'll see what it fixes.
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finding the java
> binary, or utterly non-portable mess ;)
It could, if all Debian VMs provide a JAVA_HOME-like structure.
> Maybe it would be better to maintain the findjava-vm-binding as a
> separate package, so that bugs in one don't force exclusion of the other
> from
INE_CLASSPATH=-classpath=$BASE_CLASSES:$CLASSPATH
..etc.. or something like that...
or something... but then kaffe would provide /etc/findjava/kaffe as part
of its package and findjava would pick it up and invocation time.
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ed to update it from time
> to time, and it will be a mess.
Yes. That is where I'm at.
> Ean wrote:
Nope, not me.
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quivalent of this code is
>
> for java in /usr/bin/kaffe /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4/bin/java ... ; do
>if [ -x $java ] ; then
> JAVACMD="$java"
> break
>fi
> done
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quivalent of this code is
>
> for java in /usr/bin/kaffe /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4/bin/java ... ; do
>if [ -x $java ] ; then
> JAVACMD="$java"
> break
>fi
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indjavarc(5) and a test script
> > dh_java (with inline manpage)
>
> I can include these in the java-common package but I will not replace
> the Java Policy. These scripts need to prove their usability first
> before they can be made mandatory.
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> > dh_java (with inline manpage)
>
> I can include these in the java-common package but I will not replace
> the Java Policy. These scripts need to prove their usability first
> before they can be made mandatory.
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ative system has put gij as /usr/bin/java. App runs on
> kaffe and sunVM. App calls /usr/bin/java (or /usr/lib/jre/bin/java).
> Crash...
Tell me again how findjava fixes that problem?
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> kaffe and sunVM. App calls /usr/bin/java (or /usr/lib/jre/bin/java).
> Crash...
Tell me again how findjava fixes that problem?
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Hey, I've got that missing terminator tagged help for a reason. Some
ia64 wizard needs to stick their nose in and tell me something. I'm an
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e are all C related. I'll try to fix these
> tomorrow... The one for S390 seems to be package related -
> the rt.jar gets deleted before it gets installed?? hmm??
>
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> separately from jikes itself.
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re all C related. I'll try to fix these
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> the rt.jar gets deleted before it gets installed?? hmm??
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> so almost all other Java packages in main won't move there either. Maybe
> we can use SableVM and gcj instead.
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> so almost all other Java packages in main won't move there either. Maybe
> we can use SableVM and gcj instead.
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hould we file? Should
> > poilcy say that free compilers must be used if they can?
>
> I'd say yes, but as a free java environment developer, I'm biased ;) Though I
> don't think it should be a severe bug preventing a package from entering
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> > poilcy say that free compilers must be used if they can?
>
> I'd say yes, but as a free java environment developer, I'm biased ;) Though I
> don't think it should be a severe bug preventing a package from entering
> testing.
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> upload'...).
Kaffe is actually mostly compatible with the JAVA_HOME "standard" now
that I use symlinks for Debian compatibility. It might be worth making
the JAVA_HOME structure part of Debian policy. GCJ and friends could
create some simulation of it by sym
t
> upload'...).
Kaffe is actually mostly compatible with the JAVA_HOME "standard" now
that I use symlinks for Debian compatibility. It might be worth making
the JAVA_HOME structure part of Debian policy. GCJ and friends could
create some simulation of it by sym
rks,
> and not an abstract idea of what is provided. For example, a package which
> works with any java2 runtime, but also works with the interfaces provided by
> kaffe, uses "java2-runtime | kaffe", etc.
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> works with any java2 runtime, but also works with the interfaces provided by
> kaffe, uses "java2-runtime | kaffe", etc.
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> >software, right? I'm not a debian developer, but that was my impression as an
> >innocent bystander.
>
> It's also about 'our users' and from that POV, we should react to the
> situation, that
s debian, it's all about writing, using and promoting free
> >software, right? I'm not a debian developer, but that was my impression as an
> >innocent bystander.
>
> It's also about 'our users' and from that POV, we should react to the
> situation, that there are unfree java packages...
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> too...
A. Kaffe has a JIT compiler.
B. It doesn't matter what proprietary software provides. This is Debian.
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> use alternatives?
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e.g., #163168. It's a bit of work but it's certainly possible - see
> > jython for an example.
>
> I think changing the upstream build system is a bad idea, see e.g.
> #162426. You need to check each new upstream version for changes and
> sometimes don't notice
e.g., #163168. It's a bit of work but it's certainly possible - see
> > jython for an example.
>
> I think changing the upstream build system is a bad idea, see e.g.
> #162426. You need to check each new upstream version for changes and
> sometimes don't notice
ex Lau wrote:
> Have you solve all the license issue with jboss? Will it being able to
> put it on offical source list? and where :)
> I couldn't find it ... And what will be jre that build on?
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Debian itself.
The question is do we want to proceed with the old 1.0.6 stuff or should
I package something like 1.0.6.cvs-20011217? Any comments?
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Debian itself.
The question is do we want to proceed with the old 1.0.6 stuff or should
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> provides java1-runtime, not just java-runtime, although that is easily fixed).
>
> Ben.
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> provides java1-runtime, not just java-runtime, although that is easily fixed).
>
> Ben.
I'm aware of the issues. I've been lacking in the spare time department.
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