Re: tomcat, java2-runtime and Blackdown

2001-11-26 Thread Bill Wohler
Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just did an upgrade and tomcat now requires java2-runtime which the > Blackdown package of j2sdk1.3 does not provide. Is someone working > to upgrade j2sdk1.3 control file so that I don't have to install jdk > 1.1 to get tomcat to install? Insta

RE: tomcat 3.3 or 4.0 .deb & connectors

2001-11-26 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>I got a message from Henri suggesting that I look at going to >tomcat 3.3 and then building the >connectors from jakarta-tomcat-connectors for ajp14. Warning ajp14 in jtc is a currently under developpement and don't expect a release before some weeks. For Tomcat 3.3 , you should consider ajp13

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-26 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Andrew" == Andrew Pimlott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andrew> But this is Debian, and we have standards and conventions Andrew> for our packages, so we should do better. This might Andrew> cause some difficulty in building packages, and may Andrew> require educating upstream

tomcat, java2-runtime and Blackdown

2001-11-26 Thread Bill Wohler
Just did an upgrade and tomcat now requires java2-runtime which the Blackdown package of j2sdk1.3 does not provide. Is someone working to upgrade j2sdk1.3 control file so that I don't have to install jdk 1.1 to get tomcat to install? In the meantime, is there any update-alternatives magi

Re: Java Classpath builder

2001-11-26 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ftp://ftp.leanedit.org/debian-java/java-classpath_0.0.1-1_all.deb > Could you please make this available also non-packaged for us poor non-debian > users to have a look at ? FWIW, you can use ar p data.tar.gz | tar xz in a suitable directory to

Re: [summary] Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-26 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Pimlott) writes: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 12:21:57PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > > According to discussion, it seems we agreed on following points: > > I didn't realize there was consensus, [...] Me neither. For the record, I'm also dissenting with Guillaume's "co

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-26 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Andrew" == Andrew Pimlott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andrew> But this is Debian, and we have standards and conventions Andrew> for our packages, so we should do better. This might Andrew> cause some difficulty in building packages, and may Andrew> require educating upstrea

tomcat, java2-runtime and Blackdown

2001-11-26 Thread Bill Wohler
Just did an upgrade and tomcat now requires java2-runtime which the Blackdown package of j2sdk1.3 does not provide. Is someone working to upgrade j2sdk1.3 control file so that I don't have to install jdk 1.1 to get tomcat to install? In the meantime, is there any update-alternatives mag

Re: Java Classpath builder

2001-11-26 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ftp://ftp.leanedit.org/debian-java/java-classpath_0.0.1-1_all.deb > Could you please make this available also non-packaged for us poor non-debian > users to have a look at ? FWIW, you can use ar p data.tar.gz | tar xz in a suitable directory t

Re: [summary] Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-26 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Pimlott) writes: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 12:21:57PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > > According to discussion, it seems we agreed on following points: > > I didn't realize there was consensus, [...] Me neither. For the record, I'm also dissenting with Guillaume's "c

tomcat 3.3 or 4.0 .deb & connectors

2001-11-26 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
I got a message from Henri suggesting that I look at going to tomcat 3.3 and then building the connectors from jakarta-tomcat-connectors for ajp14. I downloaded, I believe, all the files that I need but things will not compile. The tomcat 3.3 seems to build ok. I then went to the jakarta-tomcat-

Re: [summary] Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-26 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait GOMEZ Henri : > >- should we contact FHS about this new directory (/usr/share/javadoc) ? > > Yes Even if we switch to using standard /usr/share/doc instead, maybe we could summarise relevant part of our policies to FHS anyway (usr/share/java, for instance). Unless some Debian folks

tomcat 3.3 or 4.0 .deb & connectors

2001-11-26 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
I got a message from Henri suggesting that I look at going to tomcat 3.3 and then building the connectors from jakarta-tomcat-connectors for ajp14. I downloaded, I believe, all the files that I need but things will not compile. The tomcat 3.3 seems to build ok. I then went to the jakarta-tomcat

Re: [summary] Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-26 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait GOMEZ Henri : > >- should we contact FHS about this new directory (/usr/share/javadoc) ? > > Yes Even if we switch to using standard /usr/share/doc instead, maybe we could summarise relevant part of our policies to FHS anyway (usr/share/java, for instance). Unless some Debian folks

Re: [summary] Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-26 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 06:39:38PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Ainsi parlait Andrew Pimlott : > > What exactly do you mean by "standard documentation"? I assume you > > mean "non-developer documentation". In this case, you are > > presenting a false division, because "developer documentation

Re: Java Classpath builder

2001-11-26 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:23:52PM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote: > I have made a Debian package containing an experimental java > classpath builder Hi Max. I took a quick look at your package. I think the idea is basically right, but I would be somewhat disappointed if we couldn't fit the necessa

Re: [summary] Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-26 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Andrew Pimlott : > On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 12:21:57PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > > According to discussion, it seems we agreed on following points: > > I didn't realize there was consensus, though that may be because > I've been skimming lots of back mail. I don't think this pr

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-26 Thread Andrew Pimlott
[ Responding to an old message. Sorry. ] On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:29:44AM -0800, Kevin A. Burton wrote: > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Someone else writes: > > > Due to the WORA nature of Java applications, a lot of projects assume they > > > are the only package management system

Re: [summary] Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-26 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 06:39:38PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Ainsi parlait Andrew Pimlott : > > What exactly do you mean by "standard documentation"? I assume you > > mean "non-developer documentation". In this case, you are > > presenting a false division, because "developer documentatio

Re: Java Classpath builder

2001-11-26 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:23:52PM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote: > I have made a Debian package containing an experimental java > classpath builder Hi Max. I took a quick look at your package. I think the idea is basically right, but I would be somewhat disappointed if we couldn't fit the necess

Re: [summary] Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-26 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Andrew Pimlott : > On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 12:21:57PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > > According to discussion, it seems we agreed on following points: > > I didn't realize there was consensus, though that may be because > I've been skimming lots of back mail. I don't think this p

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-26 Thread Andrew Pimlott
[ Responding to an old message. Sorry. ] On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:29:44AM -0800, Kevin A. Burton wrote: > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Someone else writes: > > > Due to the WORA nature of Java applications, a lot of projects assume they > > > are the only package management syste

Re: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

2001-11-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Guillaume Rousse | Can't posting be restricted to subscribers only ? This has been discussed a gazillion times already. Posting will not be restricted to subscribers only. (And why would you want to do that? It would mean more work on many people, or we would cooperate worse with other part

Re: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

2001-11-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Guillaume Rousse | Can't posting be restricted to subscribers only ? This has been discussed a gazillion times already. Posting will not be restricted to subscribers only. (And why would you want to do that? It would mean more work on many people, or we would cooperate worse with other par