Re: Applying to be DD (was: Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-09 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 4/9/06, Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday 09 April 2006 13:38, Eddy Petrişor wrote: > > Well, given the history of NM waiting we will need tons and tons of popcorn > > :) > > I know that this was ment as a joke. Indeed. > But still, repeating over and over again, tha

Re: Applying to be DD (was: Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sunday 09 April 2006 13:38, Eddy Petrişor wrote: > Well, given the history of NM waiting we will need tons and tons of popcorn > :) I know that this was ment as a joke. But still, repeating over and over again, that NM/DAM/NEW/FOO/BAR is slow, doesnt make it faster. And because we're

Re: Applying to be DD (was: Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-09 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 4/9/06, Clytie Siddall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Below is my attempt at rewording the Introductionary page of the NM > > corner > > to make it clearer that non-mainter contributors can apply to NM. > > However, since I have now seen it abundantly stated that a translator > can become a DD,

Applying to be DD (was: Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-08 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 06/04/2006, at 2:10 AM, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: http://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint Below is my attempt at rewording the Introductionary page of the NM corner to make it clearer that non-mainter contributors can apply to NM. Thankyou to Bart for his work on this page.

Re: Rewording of NM-corner

2006-04-06 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 06.04.2006 um 10:58 schrieb Bas Wijnen: Especially in the NM corner, it is important that people understand what is meant. We can't assume that they'll understand our jargon. Therefore I support the change of using Debian Project Member and

Re: Rewording of NM-corner

2006-04-06 Thread MJ Ray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) > On Apr 06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Point of information: non-free-software documentation in main was > > already seen as a bug before the GR to which I think you refer. > A lot of people disagree. They were being reported as bugs. If you are willing

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006, JC Helary wrote: > Also in the constitution there is clear reference to > developers=project members in 5.1.2 > > >>2. Lend authority to other Developers. > >>The Project Leader may make statements of support for points of > >>view or for other members of the project, when as

Re: Rewording of NM-corner

2006-04-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Point of information: non-free-software documentation in main was > already seen as a bug before the GR to which I think you refer. A lot of people disagree. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Rewording of NM-corner

2006-04-06 Thread MJ Ray
"=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Eddy_Petri=BAor?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (anyone remember the "simple wording change" which made much of the > documentation be moved in non-free?) Point of information: non-free-software documentation in main was already seen as a bug before the GR to which I think you refer. IIRC

Re: Rewording of NM-corner

2006-04-06 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 4/6/06, Bas Wijnen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I'd suggest the constitution gets changed to use better terminology. I think this will be regarded by many as a controversary change (anyone remember the "simple wording change" which made much of the documentation be moved in non-free?)

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 06/04/2006, at 7:10 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Err, no. We're still Debian Developers, whether we do actual development or something else. I think a great deal of the perception problem rests on the fact that in the FLOSS world (if not everywhere in computing) a "developer" is shorth

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread JC Helary
On 2006/04/06, at 19:35, Frans Pop wrote: Please stop this "member" nonsense, you are rapidly starting to become a troll. Any points that you have wanted to make were clear about 6 mails ago. The rest is repetition. Please accept that the consensus is against you and move on. Do you want

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 06 April 2006 12:46, Frans Pop wrote: > I disagree. If it needs to be changed, let's change it to what is the > real purpose of the project, namely introducing a New Developer to the > project. Eh, real purpose of the _process_. pgp2fMoHBYEah.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 04:19:59PM +0900, JC Helary wrote: > I'd be a little more radical :) > > >begin rewording proposal > >The Debian New Maintainer process, is the process of becoming an > >official > >Debian Developer (DD). These webpages are the place were > >prospective Debian > >De

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 06 April 2006 12:06, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > I think the s/New Maintainer/New Member/g is a definate improvement, it > removes one big misnomer and keeps the same abreviation. I disagree. If it needs to be changed, let's change it to what is the real purpose of the project

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Please stop this "member" nonsense, you are rapidly starting to become a > troll. Any points that you have wanted to make were clear about 6 mails > ago. The rest is repetition. Please accept that the consensus is against > you and move on. I do

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 06 April 2006 10:33, JC Helary wrote: > > It's more than that; that's what the constitution refers to Debian > > Developers as, so the NM process needs to use the same terminology. > > Yes, the constitution refers to Developers as being _Project Members_. > (article 5.1.2) You are repe

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Thursday 06 April 2006 09:19, JC Helary wrote: > I'd be a little more radical :) changed text I think the s/New Maintainer/New Member/g is a definate improvement, it removes one big misnomer and keeps the same abreviation. I think the term DD is to ingrained to just change it, it's likely

Re: Rewording of NM-corner

2006-04-06 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 12:55:55AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Thu, 06 Apr 2006, JC Helary wrote: > > The Debian Project New Member process, is the process of becoming an > > official Debian Project Member (DPM), also called Debian Developer > > (DD) for historical purposes. I would suggest "

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread JC Helary
On 2006/04/06, at 16:55, Don Armstrong wrote: On Thu, 06 Apr 2006, JC Helary wrote: The Debian Project New Member process, is the process of becoming an official Debian Project Member (DPM), also called Debian Developer (DD) for historical purposes. It's more than that; that's what the consti

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006, JC Helary wrote: > The Debian Project New Member process, is the process of becoming an > official Debian Project Member (DPM), also called Debian Developer > (DD) for historical purposes. It's more than that; that's what the constitution refers to Debian Developers as, so the

Re: Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-06 Thread JC Helary
I'd be a little more radical :) begin rewording proposal The Debian New Maintainer process, is the process of becoming an official Debian Developer (DD). These webpages are the place were prospective Debian Developers can find all the details on applying to become a DD, the different steps

Rewording of NM-corner (WAS: Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006)

2006-04-05 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 14:14, JC Helary wrote: > On 2006/04/05, at 20:37, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > JC Helary wrote: > >> It is not a mistaken belief, it directly comes from: > >> http://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint > > > > It is a mistaken belief. That page is just poorly worded