Open Source Now 2013, March 14th, Carouge, Geneva, Switzerland

2013-03-06 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! There will be a Debian booth and a talk about DebConf13 at Open Source Now 2013, which takes place on March, Thursday 14th, at the Hotel Ramada, Carouge, Geneva, Switzerland: The official Debian Events page will be available in t

Re: Chemnitzer Linuxtage

2013-01-23 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:18:28 +0100, Jan Wagner wrote: > Am 06.01.13 18:01, schrieb Jan Wagner: >> I created a wiki site at >> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/de/2013/ChemnitzerLinuxTage >> for the event and added some initial informations there. Please >> have a look into is and into

Re: BSP in Cambridge, UK, 25th-27th January 2013

2013-01-23 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:53 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > There will be a BSP on the weekend of the 25th-27th of January at my > house in Cambridge. Better late than never, added to the Events page, it should be online in a few hours:

Re: 29C3

2012-12-26 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 02:37:39 +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > I've registered an Assembly[1] at 29C3, so we have a proper place to > stay there during the conference. [...] > [1] https://events.ccc.de/congress/2012/wiki/Debian I am terrible sorry, Simon, I missed your announcement and just

Re: Friday, 7. December 2012, 13:00: Debian Bug Squashing Party in Berlin @ spline

2012-12-04 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:34:33 +0100, Mika Pflüger wrote: > on Friday, December 7 2012 we'll have a small Debian Bug Squashing > Party at the student's project linux network (spline) at the Freie > Universität Berlin. [...] > The party starts on Friday, December 7th 2012 at 1pm and will go

Re: fr2012.mini.debconf.org

2012-11-20 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:26:31 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > so what are the plans for Friday night in Paris? :-) I do not know, but there should be a car with GE/CH plates arriving at around 23:00+0100, please tell us where is the Delirium Café in Paris and we will head there. Just in c

Re: BSP in Banja Luka, 2012-12-10 and 2012-12-11

2012-11-07 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:52:02 +0100, Moray Allan wrote: > On 2012-11-07 13:28, Luca Capello wrote: >> I guess your words >> are right, given that November has a week-end on the 10th and 11th. > > Yes. Apparently I don't know what month it is. (Or, really, my &

Re: BSP in Banja Luka, 2012-12-10 and 2012-12-11

2012-11-07 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:24:00 +0100, Moray Allan wrote: > There will be some Debian packaging and bug-squashing tutorials, and > ideally some actual bug-squashing, this coming weekend in Banja Luka. ^^^ > Dates: 2012-12-10 and 2012-12-

Re: BSP in Mechelen, Belgium, 2012-12-15 & 2012-12-16

2012-11-01 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:27:53 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > There will be a BSP in Mechelen, on the weekend of the 15th and the 16th > of December, in the offices of my company, NixSys, in Mechelen, Belgium. > > Interested parties should register on the wiki, at >

Re: Second BSP in Dublin + Ireland DUG announcement

2012-11-01 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:23:00 +0200, Martín Ferrari wrote: > Bug Squashing Party in Dublin > = > http://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2012/11/ie/Dublin > > Come and help get Wheezy released, a second time! I am sorry for the delay, added to the events page, it should be

Wheezy BSP Marathon: Le Camp, Vaumarcus, Switzerland, Oct 27-28

2012-10-10 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! To help squeeze some more bugs for wheezy, debian.ch is organizing a Bug Squashing Party [1] during the weekend of 27th and 28th October at Le Camp, Vaumarcus, Switzerland, the same location that should host DebConf13 [2][3]. Please follow up to debian.ch mailing list [4] only rather th

Re: RMLL 2012 in Geneva 2012-07-07 to 2012-07-12, call for support

2012-06-26 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Anne! Sorry for the Cc:, I wanted to be sure you get this. On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:53:31 +0200, Anne Forker wrote: > as time goes on and there has been no information whether private hosts have > been found I wanted to ask whether it might make some sense to look for an > appartement we could s

Re: RMLL 2012 in Geneva 2012-07-07 to 2012-07-12, call for support

2012-06-12 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:42:22 +0200, Arne Wichmann wrote: > There will be a debian booth at RMLL this year in Geneva, but it is still > quite sparsely manned. We would be delighted to have a bit more help there. I have (finally) added the RMLL 2012 to the Debian Events page, it will be v

Re: 13th RMLL/LSM 2012: call for Debian participants

2012-06-10 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 14:57:03 +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > Axel Beckert wrote: >> Luca Capello wrote: >> > Given that I will not be there because of DebConf12 and Michele is sure >> > to be present only for the week-end Jul 7-8, we registered only those >>

Re: 13th RMLL/LSM 2012: call for Debian participants

2012-05-22 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Tue, 22 May 2012 13:59:07 +0200, Arne Wichmann wrote: > begin quotation from Luca Capello (in <87zk91h6qe@gismo.pca.it>): >> Michele Cane (Bcc:ed) and I registered Debian for the "associate >> village" (basically a booth) at the 13th RMLL/LSM 201

13th RMLL/LSM 2012: call for Debian participants

2012-05-21 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! Michele Cane (Bcc:ed) and I registered Debian for the "associate village" (basically a booth) at the 13th RMLL/LSM 2012: A proper announcement will be sent out when our registration will be confirmed, so take this as a first 'call for help'. Given that I will

Re: FOSDEM booth

2012-01-31 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:06:20 +0100, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: > On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 03:04:07PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> As usual, I will not have the time to organize it myself, and Axel >> (who's been doing it these past two years) will not, either. >> >> Anyone else wanna

Re: Booth at Chemnitzer Linux Tage 2012

2012-01-24 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! Please do not Cc: me, I read the list. On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:04:28 +0100, Jan Wagner wrote: > as I wrote last week, our booth was accepted by the host. And now it is also shown on the Debian Event list: > Luca: you wrote

Re: Booth at Chemnitzer Linux Tage 2012

2012-01-20 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:14:24 +0100, Jan Wagner wrote: > we got an aprovement from the host for our booth. I'm sorting out some more > details with them and will announce the essence as far as I've collected all > remaining details. This is expected until the end of the week. I added i

Open Source Now 2012, February 7th-8th, Geneva, Swizterland

2012-01-18 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! There will be a Debian booth at Open Source Now 2012, which takes place on February, Tuesday 7th and Wednesday 8th, at the Palexpo in Geneva (Switzerland): The official Debian Events page will be available in the following hours.

Bug#652631: www.debian.org: please clarify the distinction between 'events@d.o' and 'debian-events-*@lists.d.o'

2011-12-19 Thread Luca Capello
tasks at the moment. Thank you for the follow-up. I would have preferred a reply to my original email you referred to [6], but this is my maniacal side ;-) >> > begin quotation from Luca Capello (in <877h2jm9bv@gismo.pca.it>): >> >> As a final side note: as annou

Re: CeBIT 2012 booth?

2011-12-16 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:35:43 +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Am 29.11.2011 13:21, schrieb Alexander Reichle-Schmehl: > >> Any volunteers? > > No one? That's bad. I just got a an e-mail from Univention, who are > asking whether Debian would like to be at their booth again, and

Re: Booth at Chemnitzer Linux Tage 2012

2011-11-29 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! Removing personal Cc:, keeping the Press team and adding the Events one. On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:27:06 +0100, Jan Wagner wrote: > On Sunday, 27. November 2011, Jan Dittberner wrote: >> I think it would be nice to have a booth like we had this year. I'm >> planning to attend the event and

Re: CeBIT 2012 booth?

2011-11-29 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 19:41:26 +0100, Kai Wasserbäch wrote: > [Please CC me on all replies, I'm not subscribed to debian-events-eu.] Done. > I just read, that the application period for FLOSS projects for a free booth > in > the open-source area of CeBIT 2012 has opened. I didn't find a

Report from Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2011 (CLT-2011)

2011-03-31 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! As previously announced [1], Debian was present at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2011 [2] on the week-end of 19th and 20th March. [1] [2] Three different talk

Event and merchandise handling in Debian

2011-02-17 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! Debian, as other players in the Free Software world, is often present at different meetings, expos or conferences around the world, in different manners. Beside having Debian attendees or speakers, most of the time there is a Debian booth, where you can usually find merchandise on sale.

Re: "Distro-Battle" at the Chemnitzer LinuxTage

2011-02-13 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 15:28:45 +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > The Linux User magazine is organising a "Distro-Battle" at the upcoming > Chemnitzer LinuxTage: They will have some tasks (send in by the readers > of their magazine), and ~6 distros should solve them live on stage.

Re: Poster Was: Booth for Chemnitzer LinuxTage?

2011-02-13 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! Moving the discussion to the debian-publicity@ mailing list, they are the better ones when "marketing" Debian. And given that they also worked on announcing what is new in squeeze, maybe they have more ideas for such a poster. Please keep Jan Wagner cc:ed, he is the main contact point

Debian at FOSDEM 2011: thank you! (was: FOSDEM)

2011-02-13 Thread Luca Capello
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:08:10 +0100, Axel Beckert wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> FOSDEM preparations are firing up again; I've just requested a stand for >> the project at the next edition (5th and 6th of February, 2011). > > Great, thanks. > > I just created the according page in the Debian Wi

Re: New place(s) and time(s): FoodSDEM/FOSDEM 2011: Squeeze Release Party / Debian Dinner

2011-02-06 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:55:58 +0100, Axel Beckert wrote: > Axel Beckert wrote: >> > The wiki says: "The restaurant does not accept so many people. They say >> > that they do not have space for more than 15. Does anyone have an idea >> > for a different venue?" >> >> We now have a new ve

Re: Booth for Chemnitzer LinuxTage?

2011-02-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Jan! For the list: sorry for the spam ;-) On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:15:18 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > My PM-mail is bounced by your mailserver with > >550 5.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname Same here, can you please check why, Jan? I will use your Debian address from no

Re: Booth for Chemnitzer LinuxTage?

2011-02-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:09:37 +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > * Jan Wagner [110130 13:51]: > >> We are missing flyers (for squeeze) and I know for sure, that many will ask >> us >> for a fresh sqeeze install medium. [...] >> Maybe we can transfer some of the leftovers from Ce

Re: Booth for Chemnitzer LinuxTage?

2011-02-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Jan! On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:51:40 +0100, Jan Wagner wrote: > On Sunday, 2. January 2011, Luca Capello wrote: >> On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:11:27 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 04:05:34PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: >> >> at 19./20. Ma

Debian flyers updated to squeeze? (was: Debian at FOSDEM 2011: Squeeze Release Party in Brussels?)

2011-02-01 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:08:40 +0100, Axel Beckert wrote: > FOSDEM is coming closer and a lot of stuff has already been done > behind the scenes, mostly by Luca Capello. (Thanks!) See the Wiki page > for details: > > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/FOSDEM/2011 > &g

Re: Cloud Expo, Feb 1st-3rd

2011-01-20 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Phil! On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:23:13 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > Debian will have some sort of presence at the Cloud Expo Europe next > month (Feb 2nd & 3rd, setup on the 1st): > > http://www.cloudexpoeurope.com/ Thank you for the notice to this list. > I'm planning to grab some T-shirts fro

Re: debian.ch AGM on 2011-01-31

2011-01-18 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:00:10 +0100, Luca Capello wrote: > On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:28:49 +0100, Luca Capello wrote: >> debian.ch [1] is the official representation of the Debian project in >> Switzerland and in the Principality of Liechtenstein. >> >> The Annua

Re: debian.ch AGM on 2011-01-31

2011-01-05 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! In the original announcement I made a serious error about the availability of the agenda and item submission. Thanks to Daniel Baumann [a], I stand corrected. Below you can find the fixed version. On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:28:49 +0100, Luca Capello wrote: > debian.ch [1] is the offic

debian.ch AGM on 2011-01-31

2011-01-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! debian.ch [1] is the official representation of the Debian project in Switzerland and in the Principality of Liechtenstein. The Annual General Meeting (AGM) for 2011 will be held on Monday, January 31, at 19:00 UTC+0100, at "Aareheim" [2] in the center of Bern, very close to the main tr

Re: Booth for Chemnitzer LinuxTage?

2011-01-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:11:27 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 04:05:34PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: >> at 19./20. March 2011 the famous Chemnitzer LinuxTage will take place. >> Did anybody cared for a booth? > > As it's a relatively new news, let me remind that

Re: Booth for Chemnitzer LinuxTage?

2011-01-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Andreas! On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 10:16:49 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 09:10:41AM +0100, Sebastian Feltel wrote: >> some days ago I requested a booth for debianforum.de like the years >> before. Would it be wise to try to convince the CLT people to arrange >> the Debian-ish

Re: FOSDEM

2010-12-08 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:08:10 +0100, Axel Beckert wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> FOSDEM preparations are firing up again; I've just requested a stand for >> the project at the next edition (5th and 6th of February, 2011). > > Great, thanks. > > I just created the according page in the

Re: FOSDEM

2010-12-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:06:01 +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 15:55, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Instead it would be greate to create USB Sticks with Debian Installer on > > them and sell them (below cost if enough sponsoring is found). An USB > > Stick is

Re: FOSDEM

2010-12-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:43:22 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > FOSDEM preparations are firing up again; I've just requested a stand for > the project at the next edition (5th and 6th of February, 2011). > > During previous years, we've always had some merchandise available for > sale, and

Re: De/En/Fr Debian flyers available

2010-06-04 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:03:19 +0200, Ferdinand Thommes wrote: > Am Mittwoch 02 Juni 2010, 14:57:49 schrieb Luca Capello: >> Perfect, what do you want, all of them, only the German ones or the >> German and the English ones? >> > DE and EN will be fine. > If an

Re: De/En/Fr Debian flyers available

2010-06-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Ferdinand! I re-added the debian-events-eu@ mailing list into the loop, so other people know the situation. On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:47:16 +0200, Ferdinand Thommes wrote: > Am Mittwoch 02 Juni 2010, 14:36:11 schrieb Luca Capello: >> For the last OpenExpo in Bern (CH) [1], we printed

De/En/Fr Debian flyers available

2010-06-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! For the last OpenExpo in Bern (CH) [1], we printed a lot of the Debian flyers [2], something around 250 in German and 30 for both the English and French languages. The printing was sponsored by debian.ch, and thus the debian.ch logo is on the flyer [3]. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/Debia

Re: [last call] Debian at OpenExpo, 24. - 25.3.2010 in Bern

2010-03-16 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:45:28 +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Proposed shift plan: > Wednesday 24.3. morning: Gaudenz and Marc > Wednesday 24.3. afternoon: Marc and Luca > Thursday 25.3.: Gaudenz and Luca That is fine for me, but given a very recent call I must take the last train for M

Re: [last call] Debian at OpenExpo, 24. - 25.3.2010 in Bern

2010-03-16 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Gaudenz! On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:30:37 +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 05:46:34PM +0100, Luca Capello wrote: >> >> Gaudenz: should we print this poster or none? Since you are in contact >> with the OpenExpo organizers, I will let you choose :-) &

Re: [last call] Debian at OpenExpo, 24. - 25.3.2010 in Bern

2010-03-16 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:18:08 +0100, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:36:27AM +0100, Luca Capello wrote: >> An attempt is available at: >> >> http://people.debian.org/~gismo/posters/The_Debian_Development_Process/ [...] > If you go to here[0]

Re: [last call] Debian at OpenExpo, 24. - 25.3.2010 in Bern

2010-03-15 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! I cc:ed Kevin Mark and Michael Casadevall since I have used their material. Guys, there are questions for you below ;-) On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:15:45 +0100, Luca Capello wrote: > Going back to the organization, I have added some points to the wiki > page at <http://wiki.d

Re: [last call] Debian at OpenExpo, 24. - 25.3.2010 in Bern

2010-03-14 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:31:07 +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:58:29PM +0100, Luca Capello wrote: >> My main problem is the same for everything German-related: I do not >> speak German, unfortunately. Nevertheless, I could manage to be there,

Re: [last call] Debian at OpenExpo, 24. - 25.3.2010 in Bern

2010-03-12 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:37:09 +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Only Axel answered to my last call for help and he is unfortunately > unable to help staffing the booth. I've now setup a wiki page [1] and > this is my last call for help. If we don't find enough people to staff > the booth u

Re: using Debian money to buy and handle booth stuff (Re: Disappointment about the appearance of our CLT booth)

2009-03-23 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! Bcc:ing Rene, I guess he is subscribed, but I cannot check. On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:35:47 +0100, Rene Stegmaier wrote: > Debian owns a beamer, 3 machines, hundres of posters, t-shirts and > whatever else. :-) > This stuff is at credativ office. Point 0, which I have already asked for:

Debian logo/banner (was Re: Disappointment about the appearance of our CLT booth)

2009-03-23 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:57:31 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:53:32PM +0100, Michael Mohn wrote: >> Imagine this on a comercial linux-fair. one would never mistaken the >> novell booth for the redhat-booth. >> as the lesson: there always must be a prominent logo

Re: Upcoming Events in Europe

2008-09-11 Thread Luca Capello
Hi! On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:42:02 +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Here's the list of events with the associated dates and locations: > > Sep 13-14 Italian Debian Community ConferenceBracciano Italy This event is organized by DDs (mainly Luca Bruno [1]) and according to the keysigning list

Small LinuxDays 2008 report (was Re: Debian at LinuxDays 2008)

2008-06-23 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! Reply-To and Mail-Followup-To set to the debian.ch mailing list, please change those if you need differently, thanks! On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:05:58 +0200, Luca Capello wrote: > As previously confirmed on this list [1], on May, Wednesday 21st and > Thursday 22nd, at the LinuxDays 2

Debian at LinuxDays 2008 (was Re: LinuxDays, Geneva, 21-22 May, 2008: booth & CFP)

2008-04-17 Thread Luca Capello
Hi all! As previously confirmed on this list [1], on May, Wednesday 21st and Thursday 22nd, at the LinuxDays 2008 [2] in Geneva (Switzerland), Debian will be present with a booth and also a talk about the Debian-Med subproject [3]. Many thanks to the LinuxDays 2008 organizers for the invitation!

Re: LinuxDays, Geneva, 21-22 May, 2008: booth & CFP

2008-04-04 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Joey! On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:17:15 +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Julien BLACHE wrote: >> I've got a mail from the LinuxDays 2008 organisation team, offering a >> free booth for Debian and possibly a conference slot. >> >> Is anyone handling that already? Anyone willing to do so? > > What's the

Re: LinuxDays, Geneva, 21-22 May, 2008: booth & CFP

2008-04-01 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:14:02 +0100, Luca Capello wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:41:30 +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote: >> I've got a mail from the LinuxDays 2008 organisation team, offering a >> free booth for Debian and possibly a conference slot. >> >>

Re: LinuxDays, Geneva, 21-22 May, 2008: booth & CFP

2008-03-28 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Andreas! Please don't Cc: me, I read the list. On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:35:11 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Luca Capello wrote: > >> FWIW I leave in Geneva, even if I know only 2/3 local GNU/Linux users. > > "Leave"??? I thought you would

Re: LinuxDays, Geneva, 21-22 May, 2008: booth & CFP

2008-03-27 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Julien! On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:41:30 +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote: > I've got a mail from the LinuxDays 2008 organisation team, offering a > free booth for Debian and possibly a conference slot. > > Is anyone handling that already? Anyone willing to do so? FWIW I leave in Geneva, even if I know