Re: throw away debs and source only uploads

2011-04-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 04:18:34PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > The main decision which needs to be made is whether, as a project, we > > want source only uploads or to throw away DD built non-all debs. > > There's not entire agreement amongst the ftpmasters about

Re: time based freezes

2011-04-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ M-F-T to -devel ] On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 06:00:09PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Another thread, another thread summary! Here is a summary about where we > are on this discussion, at least as far as I can tell. Lather, rinse, repeat. > I would love if we can summarize the a

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t a futile exercise, but from an investigative point of view, it looks like an interesting exercise to me. Cheers. [1] http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/04/27/towards-debian-rolling-my-own-debian-cut-manifesto/ -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
as "undersold" testing which has, de facto, invented what many people today call "rolling distributions". Choosing better names might be *part* of a strategy to avoid underselling the good things we do in Debian in the future. Cheers. [1] http://lca2011.linux.org.au/programme/

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
the need of synchronizing with d-i releases and CD/DVD images, but that might be mitigating by saying that a specific alpha/beta/ is only for upgrades and not for from scratch installations. Any other drawbacks of doing development releases I might have missed? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o-

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
me those objections? What do you think of my responses? Does your experience infirm or confirm my point of view? -- snap ------------ -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
#x27;re right that _technically_ we can achieve the same with current procedures, but I argue that the underlying procedure doesn't scale (which is unsurprising, given it's been designed for a different purpose). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Par

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
s long as that does not step on others toes and as long as there are volunteers willing to put their energy into a new experiment, that's just fine. Big changes after all also need people willing to go ahead against some odds and show they were right --- or alternatively fail miserably. Ch

PPAs for Debian

2011-04-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
PPA service to Debian? A: Only rumors, TTBOMK. And anyhow I believe it would be better to have an independent infrastructure that we are in full control of. That poses extra constraints on which kind of offer would fit our needs (constraints that we cannot force an independent company

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
d relax all the > conditions to perform NMUs at once ] I'll repeat this to death: NMU policies are already quite relaxed. Basically, if you do things properly, there is no bug you cannot fix with a long DELAYED NMUs. We don't need any change in policy to use NMU more liberally, we need

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ke the choice and will go away slamming the door? I appeal to all the creativity people might have to solve the integration vs liberty dilemma. I essentially agree with everything you've written later about PPA. Maybe that mail of yours will actually help finding someone drafting a first imple

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
would have diminished their involvement in or not considered contributing to Debian, if the GR weren't there. But as a matter of fact, chances are that those people wouldn't have been able to be Debian Developers today if it weren't for the GR. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
l issues (like the moving target issue you mention) or whether it is simply yet to be discussed/analyzed. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti vol

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
FYI, Sean and Raphael have taken DEP number 10 and I believe they're going to use it to summarize the proposal and the other pro/against arguments raised in this thread. So we might all want to hold on a bit and start fresh from their summary. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in C

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
can ask to users to help out in this dilemma, please mail me. (Requirements are: no open-ended questions and a maximum of 2-3 questions on this specific topic.) Cheers. [1] http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2011/01/who_the_bloody_hell_cares_about_Debian/ -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD i

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
they are convincing for me. We should probably stop here and agree to disagree. Ultimately, we'll be able to know who is right only if someone builds the thing and see how many users actually use it. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ssues as the one embodied by your example). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans ev

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ing up with me the topic of CUT/rolling (no matter how non-representative that could be) and will let you know. In the meantime I've highlighted an approximate way to ask them (the survey, which is unfortunately limited by the non-scalability of surveys with open-ended answers), that's t

Re: OK, Re: need a server for debdelta repository

2011-05-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
f [2], but it seems independent form actually making easier for users to find and use the service.) Cheers. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2011#DebDelta_APT_Native_Integration [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2011/04/msg00060.html -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ P

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
that respect what is the difference between that and unofficial APT repositories that many of us already maintain at people.d.o/~something or something.debian.net? Do you want to shut them down as well? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{u

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
only to DDs + DMs would be a good compromise to avoid "random uploads". It also seems sane in order to avoid the risk of DOS-ing buildds. It's not too constraining either as, after all, we won't (and simply can't) block users out there to set up their own package repositor

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
want to go ahead with patching britney, by all means go ahead, as it might provide patches useful for the main brintey as well. But if you want to try some alternatives, we can probably help. > > What do you think? > +1 from me. Thank you for the proposal! Ditto! Cheers. -- Stefan

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-05 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
table-next suite you've mention would tight more the deployment of rolling to other project mechanisms, while the rest of the proposal enjoyed much more decoupling. (Yes, all this are minor points, but since it's being discussed... :-)) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD

Re: 0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
is working on the fix, for instance by looking at VCS head of the package, asking on IRC, or the like. Finally, considering this policy has been in effect for 5 years or so, and considering that devref states guidelines rather than hard rules, I believe the _practical_ impact of this change would be

Re: Integrating aptosid?

2011-05-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ingle recipient rather than for a list. Take it with a grain of salt. Niall has also clarified that his views are only his and not necessarily representative of all aptosid developers, but I've found them interesting and useful for this debate nonetheless. Thanks a lot to Niall and to all the

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ust spilled milk, given that one way or another this matter has been settled. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I&

Re: Bug #302907 - maintainer doesn't reply

2011-05-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
age you seem to care about. Many thanks in advance for your help, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans

Re: packaging-dev meta package

2011-05-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Here's the starting point for discussion: I don't have specific comments on the various items ATM, just a suggestion might be useful as starting point: have a look at devref, there is a section about various utilities coming handy in packaging, it might provide good "coverage

relationships with GNU as an upstream - call for feedback

2011-06-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
welcome contributions on that front) [3] http://updo.debian.net/ [4] http://www.gnu.org/software/software.html#allgnupkgs -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi

mumble.debian.net

2011-06-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNetDomains -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans everywhere ti resta John Fante -- V. Capo

Re: [Lennart Poettering] Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
re how to generalize the policy change to other init systems, such as systemd. That is very good and has way more chances of changing the status quo in Debian than any pro- or against-systemd thread on -devel. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsi

Re: DEP5 public-domain Question

2011-07-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
is useful, no matter how legally imprecise is to declare something like "License: public-domain". Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
provide PGP signed hashes of the download images. No matter what internal process we decide to have for generating the images, we should advertise them as official images rather than distributing them under some sort of personal URL. Thanks for raising this topic! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchi

Re: Bug#636016: ITP: goodbye -- next part after 'hello', and a packaging example

2011-07-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ink we want to risk that people will imitate them in new packages. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans

Re: mentors.debian.net runs the debexpo code now

2011-08-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
g/Debexpo , but making it more readily available wouldn't hurt, would it?) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | .

Re: Integrating Emdebian Grip into Debian

2011-08-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
nts you've collected on the wiki page, but feel free to ping me when significant integration milestones will be reached. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando an

Re: Spending Debian money for porter boxes [Was: The archive now supports xz compression]

2011-08-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
it here won't hurt... Any taker? Cheers. PS Cc:-ing -admin that can for sure explain better than me what the hw coordination role should be about -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilo

Re: Spending Debian money for porter boxes [Was: The archive now supports xz compression]

2011-08-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
raction with the DPL. Again, I'm a bit outside of my territory here and I lack first-hand experience. People from -admin and DSA can be more precise and helpful than me. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.o

Re: relationships with GNU as an upstream - call for feedback

2011-08-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 05:26:03PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I've been invited to deliver a speech at the next GNU Hackers Meeting, > which will take place in Paris (France) from August 25th to August > 28th. The people who invited me are interested in the workflow of > p

Re: autopkgtest-devel list (DEP8 etc.)

2011-08-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
r we now need to make people use it is a machine periodically running tests of packages available in the archive. I've hardware available for that, but I could use some help from an interested devop to set it up. Cheers. [1] http://penta.debconf.org/dc11_schedule/events/764.en.html -

Re: simple Debian package information in the wiki

2011-08-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
eginning to use it and have them took the time to learn full blown packaging after discovering equivs limitation. I cannot say whether he would have reached that point if she hasn't had a intermediate "easy" tool to use.) Cheers. [ yes: we're probably quite offtopic for -deve

Re: bits from the DPL for August 2011

2011-09-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
r whether I'm doing a spoiler for a forthcoming announcement (risking that the Press team will kill me :-)). I try to post on identi.ca bits-like stuff tagged with #dpl, but I'm not particularly good at keeping up with that… Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.f

Re: Maintainers, porters, and burden of porting

2011-09-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
1.9.1 in the > last paragraph. Has this one been answered? (unless it was a rhetoric question :)) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} . o . Maître de conférences .. http://upsilon.cc/zack .. . . o Debian Project Leader...

Re: Maintainers, porters, and burden of porting

2011-09-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
reasons. > The difference is: > $arch@buildd is to reach the buildd admins. > debian-$arch is to reach the porters. Fair enough, but porting issues often appear first as buildd issues and if we expect maintainers to contact buildd maintainers before proceeding with other investigations

forwarding bugs upstream - opt-in, delayed, automated

2011-09-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
feedback about the idea, in particular from people willing to try guessing whether their respective upstreams could benefit from something similar or not. Many thanks to Steve for the interesting discussion! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} . o . Maître

Re: forwarding bugs upstream - opt-in, delayed, automated

2011-09-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
obably be done using very little extra space (for a lot of benefit, IMHO). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} . o . Maître de conférences .. http://upsilon.cc/zack .. . . o Debian Project Leader... @zack on identi.ca ...

Re: alternative dependency ordering - with respect of packages in main

2011-09-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
m, the first form might be (more) acceptable. I don't think it is acceptable without it. Just my 0.02€, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} . o . Maître de conférences .. http://upsilon.cc/zack .. . . o Debian Project Leader

Re: Who gets an email when with bugreports [was: Re: Unauthorised activity surrounding tbb package]

2015-01-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
he opt-out mechanism you and Don discussed in another part of the thread. But I'm convinced that we should optimize for the other use case.) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . .

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ve /usr/bin/apt a try: it abstracts over apt-get / apt-cache, offering a single CLI entry point to (some of) the functionalities of both. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Fo

Re: GitHub “pull request” is proprietary, incompatible with Git ‘request-pull’ (was: debian github organization ?)

2015-04-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
se the alioth Git repo as the main one (e.g., in Vcs-* fields), and mirror it to GitHub for people who want to contribute via GitHub's pull requests. > Also accept contributions via email or git request-pull. AOL. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
arned that 3rd party hosting is not a strategically smart move, with all the forges closing down these days. If anything, we should run our own GitLab (or Kallithea, FWIW). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://u

Re: patch-tracker down?

2015-05-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
old patch-tracker.d.o code base, please come and talk to me. Having competition in the area wouldn't be necessarily bad either. In particular, it might motivate in implementing a generic patch parser in Python (supporting the various kind of packages), to be included in python-debian. Cheers

Re: patch-tracker down?

2015-05-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
But GSoC outcomes are hardly unpredictable, so I'm not ready to commit to the availability of something by the end of the summer. If it is easy to resurrect patch-tracker.d.o as is, and you're willing to work on it, by all means go for it. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . .

Re: Q: why binary-log by systemd-journald is not enabled by default?

2015-05-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
//www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=874 . I found that slide deck to be a very nice and compact primer about systemd administration, if you come from a sysvinit background -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.

Re: Q: any reason for debian-policy non-i18n-ed?

2015-05-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 01:13:10PM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > Why debian-policy has not been gettexted? > Just a curious :) I suggest to ask the debian-policy maintainers, instead of debian-devel :-) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o

Re: Summary of the DebConf firmware discussion

2015-08-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
nable discussion points, that we can work on to improve the experience of Debian users, without having to re-decide again whether non-free firmware should be in main or not. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . htt

Re: Summary of the DebConf firmware discussion

2015-08-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e-freedom/ > http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/log/2009/09/19/personal-software-freedom/ Thanks for these references, very useful! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debia

Re: Bug#797359: ITP: universal-ctags -- Generates an index (or tag) file of names found in source files

2015-08-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ant-ctags? This is by no means an objection to packaging this, but as a heavy user of exuberant-ctags for Debsources, I'm curious about how the two compares, specifically in terms of performances and language support. Thanks! -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . .

Re: Validating tarballs against git repositories

2024-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
rest in their packaging recipe, you'll also automatically discover if a commit disappeared from upstream repo without needing a lot of extra tooling/integration (although not if it has moved between branches). However, you need a backup place to retrieve the commit from in case it disappear or

Re: Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-05 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
tl --user status). Thanks a lot for your work on GPG dkg, I'm really thrilled to see gpg2 becoming the default! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Le

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
m experimental. But it might be useful for you to know about this. Let me know how I can debug it further and/or if you'd like to move this discussion into a dedicated bug report (and when). Cheers. [*] actually, I manually removed the symlinks from .config/systemd/user/default.target.

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 12:56:58PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > ouch! please do file this as a distinct bug report, it's something i > haven't run into myself and i'd like to track it down. Done, that's #833596. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . .

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
over time here (cme and lintian checks comes to mind), but there's still a long way to go. FOSSology integration in Debian seems the natural next step here. I believe Kate talked about that too in her DebConf16 talk. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . .

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
er for correctness; or at least usefulness. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Science Professor . CTO Software Heritage . . . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . OSI Board Director . . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
* debian/copyright files. No matter that, Debian can decide: that is not worth maintaining that information / that is worth only if better tooling is available / that is worth only if someone else shows up to do the job / etc. Like it or not, downstreams will cope. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli

Re: GPL debate on kernel mailing list

2016-09-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 05:25:49PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 02:29:56AM +0200, Zlatan Todorić wrote: ... and we're discussing all this on debian-devel because ... ? -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Scie

Re: [Request] Is there any way to get the full source codes of Debian?

2016-09-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
eers. [*]: long story, they are in the process of migrating to a new mechanism that will allow to upload datasets this big autonomously, whereas the current setup requires manual intervention to do so -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Sc

Re: [Request] Is there any way to get the full source codes of Debian?

2016-09-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
eers. [*]: long story, they are in the process of migrating to a new mechanism that will allow to upload datasets this big autonomously, whereas the current setup requires manual intervention to do so -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Sc

Re: unattended-upgrades by default?

2016-11-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
w to do so. Thanks for bringing up this topic, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Science Professor . CTO Software Heritage . . . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . OSI Board Director . . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of ta

Re: call for participation - Debian contributors survey, 1st ed.

2016-11-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
s, after all). The "threat model" is rather: "untrusted readers of published survey *results*", which we will aggregate to avoid deanonymization. And of course all questions are optional, so if people fill itchy about specific ones, just leave them out. I'm available for

Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds

2015-09-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 04:39:43PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > It wasn't supposed to be a joke. Bikeshed is an appropriate name, in > the unix tradition of mildly amusing/punny names. Not to mention that this bikeshed thread about the Bikeshed name is going to be both epic and very meta.

Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds

2015-09-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
y anyone in the uploading keyrings, whenever mailfilter is updated in sid it will also be put into theoneandonly bikeshed automatically. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ference implementation of it. But I'd agree that doing so might in the long term end up being confusing.) Hope [but not so sure that] this helps, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o .

Re: debian.org RTC: announcing XMPP, SIP presence and more

2015-11-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
P identity and I've been looking into migrating away since quite a while. But I've hundreds of contact there and I don't really know how to minimize their (and mine) pain during a migration. If anyone have tips, I'll be very glad to hear about them. Cheers. -- Stefan

Bug#807053: ITP: flask-api -- browsable web APIs for the Flask micro web framework

2015-12-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli * Package name: flask-api Version : 0.6.4 Upstream Author : Tom Christie * URL : http://www.flaskapi.org/ * License : BSD-2-clause Programming Lang: Python Description : browsable web APIs for

Bug#807054: ITP: flask-testing -- unit testing utilities for the Flask micro web framework

2015-12-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli * Package name: flask-testing Version : 0.4.2 Upstream Author : Dan Jacob * URL : http://pythonhosted.org/Flask-Testing/ * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Python Description : unit

Bug#809705: general: let people use non-free software but opt-out of non-open software

2016-01-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
new debtags. (Procedure that I cannot find right now, but IIRC it includes coming up with a list of tag names + a list of at least N packages, with N relatively low, that are already in the archive and that would carry each tag.) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . .

Bug#809705: general: let people use non-free software but opt-out of non-open software

2016-01-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
te that, out of the box, having the information in d/copyright won't help with APT pinning either. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . .

Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
going to be the case. Which would be problematic and also a little bit disturbing. Is really no technical way to easily allow to have packages in multiple (sub-)parts of the archive? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . .

Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
subset of non-free, rather then introducing a new archive area, in the discussions of years ago, but maybe it's just me. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Pr

Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
update their sources.list anyhow for an unrelated change is a very solid argument for imposing another one onto them. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Projec

Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ct. And that's why I was actually hoping that something like this could actually be a *generalization* of how Packages/Sources files are being generated, rather than a new special case to be added---which would certainly be a sign of bad design for this proposal. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli .

Re: Archive changes

2016-03-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
dea to track all upcoming breakages using the BTS. Fell free to tag and/or mark as blocking the above bug report as needed. And to report more similar bugs :) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . .

Re: Archive changes

2016-03-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
All, On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 08:32:17AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > But it might be a good idea to track all upcoming breakages using the > BTS. Fell free to tag and/or mark as blocking the above bug report as > needed. And to report more similar bugs :) I've now reported #

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
d start offering Debian installs for it too, as we > do for other non-free hardware/virtualisation/cloud platforms. I think we should. It will help Windows users use less proprietary software in their daily lives, and my very well work as a "gateway drug" to 100% Free Software in the l

Re: Vcs-* and shared repos

2016-05-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
BRANCH] [layout=LAYOUT] I really worry that (1) might be something too simplistic that we regret in the future. So (2) might be more wise. (3) is probably overkill at this point, because I don't think we're ready for the layout bikeshed. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@

Re: Vcs-* and shared repos

2016-05-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
atch, policy, etc.) > - document that the list of options can be extended in the future > (policy) > > And we leave the discussion of repository layout (native, debian/ only, > etc.) for another time. > > Yay/nay? Yay. My 0.02 EUR, -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z

Re: Vcs-* and shared repos

2016-05-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
mality wins here (hence my "Yay" to your proposal in separate mail). YMMV. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . . . . @zacchiro . . . .

Re: Verifying dep-5

2016-05-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
restricting to a specific build system and/or a programming language) and as such by no mean generic enough to scale to the size and diversity we have in Debian. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack .

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