On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:34:56PM +0100, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
> Hi
>
> I've run some scripts to find out the size of binary pakcages in debian
> and how theycould be made smaller, here's the results:
>
> http://www.linuks.mine.nu/sizematters/
FWIW :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Dpkg7Zip
Actual mai
For the record, I have been favorable to team maintenance for years.
That's why the PTS begs for co-maintainers on packages of priority
standard or higher. That's why I pushed to setup alioth.debian.org.
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Thomas Hood wrote:
> It turns out that there is no need for them to be hu
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
> Em Qua, 2005-12-21 às 14:34 +, Matthew Garrett escreveu:
> > I think I've said this before, but I have no objections to anyone
> > uploading any of my packages. I'd be even happier if anyone who did so
> > was willing to enter into some sort of recipro
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
> > In the PTS, I'd like to be able to point people to the CVS/SVN/arch
> > repository used by the maintainers, however I can't because the
> > information is not stored, or is stored in a non-formal manner in
> > README.Debian.
>
> Hmmm... You probably poi
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> I see, i would like to see the utnubu patch list[0] integrated in PTS
> (scott's already is[1]), with that everyone subscribed to the package
The patch list from utnubu is the same than the one from Scott, so there's
no point to add a pointer to the utn
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
> One can try to come up with some metric, yes.
>
> However, on the other hand feel free to create a "common maintained
> packages team" that adopts such packages :)
This may happen sooner that one may think.
The project "collab-maint" on alioth is actua
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Um, I have said nothing against crediting maintainers in the
> packages. I have only said that I would like Ubuntu to clearly label
> which is the Debian maintainer and which is the Ubuntu maintainer.
There's no "Ubuntu maintainer" for a specific
Hello,
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Bill Allombert wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 11:35:24PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > I believe Ubuntu fills an important gap in the Debian world and as such
>
> Ubuntu is not part of the Debian world,
That's simply wrong given the many peo
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 10:27:31PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > That's kind of a strange position to take, isn't it? Does this mean that
> > the many users who use Debian directly sheerly on technical excellence
> > alone, without sharing Debian's
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > There's no "Ubuntu maintainer" for a specific package... packages in
> > Universe are sometimes uploaded by several different person. [...]
>
> OK, but is listing the Debian maintainer as the only contact person
> appropriate?
>
> I've seem some fork
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
> How do you know?
The BTS.
> > Most of the orphaned packages are orphaned because they're obscure and the
> > person who cared about the package has left the project or run out of
> > time. However, they are probably still working fine for people with
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > That's simply wrong given the many people who use both and who cares about
> > both.
>
> By this reasoning, Windows is 'part of the Debian world'. I hope you
> didn't expect anybody to take it seriously.
Ok, not well worded, let me rephrase it. It's
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > There's no "Ubuntu maintainer" for a specific package... packages in
> > Universe are sometimes uploaded by several different person.
>
> Hi Rapael,
> So WHO exactly would you expect Ubuntu folks to think to email with
> requests? The result by experience
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Joey Hess wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > This is only the latest expression of the same general discontent which has
> > been rehashed again and again on this list. A year ago it was "Ubuntu
> > aren't contributing", then "Ubuntu aren't contributing in the right way",
> >
Hello Joey,
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Joey Hess wrote:
> Leaving ubuntu out of this, what puzzles me about your message, Raphael,
> is this:
>
> Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > If you have some uploads pending, and would like to see those packages
> > included [...]
>
> >
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 04:58:40PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> >> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > I'm quickly losing interest in discussing this with you at all, to be
> >> >
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Christian Perrier wrote:
>
> > It is the great danger of this thread that Matt et al. will feel
> > sufficiently put upon that they *don't* take to heart the legitimate
> > suggestions that could improve cooperation between Debian and Ubuntu (and
> > "distinguishing version nu
[Same crosspost than last time + debian-devel, but reply-to set to a new
list]
Hello everybody,
following the previous mail on the subject, I revised a bit the proposal
and started to write down the design of the infrastructure.
I also created a mailing list where everybody interested to help sh
[ Reply-to debian-project ]
Hi everybody,
given the size of the project, it's very difficult for any of us to
evaluate the popularity of random ideas/opinions in a short time frame.
Jeroen (jvw) recently conducted two informal polls (vi-tiny vs elvis, and
maintainer field for ubuntu) and I liked
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> First of all, I think it is useful to analyze Ubuntu's motivation --
> releasing well-integrated bleeding-edge software. The easiest way to
> accomplish this goal is by branching from sid. This means that Ubuntu
> libraries differ from the stable Debi
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006, Frank Küster wrote:
> >> Are there any plans to add svn.debian.org / alioth to this set?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > Alioth will have its own backup facility.
>
> But svn.debian.org is costa.debian.org, just that the access controls
> work via alioth.
>
> Anyway, do you know who's ca
Le dimanche 20 mars 2005 à 12:45 +0100, Sven Luther a écrit :
> Hello,
Hi Sven,
> This is an attempt to do a vancouver-counter proposal in such a way that would
> be acceptable to all, including the folk who was at the vancouver meeting.
> Please be resonable when we post here, refrain from agres
Le mardi 22 mars 2005 à 17:46 +0100, Bernhard R. Link a écrit :
> * Matthew Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050322 16:51]:
> > Debian has already decided to destroy what it is by giving in to the
> > crackpots who insist that everything is software.
>
> You mean some people failed to destroy Debian th
Le jeudi 24 mars 2005 à 11:13 +1100, Matthew Palmer a écrit :
> "Some would say that this has already happened". Not a fork, per se,
> but Ubuntu's licencing policy (and the general level-headedness of the
> people I know who are deeply involved in it) suggests that it may be
> the refuge you seek
Le samedi 28 mai 2005 à 08:35 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez a écrit :
> Good. That is what I wanted to do, but I wasn't sure how it would go
> over. Second question, how do handle the version numbering? Increment
> only the Debian part of the version and include the GTK2 patch as a
> Debian patch?
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 14:50 -0400, Eric Dorland a écrit :
> Certainly retaining the name makes life easier. But the easier thing
> and the right thing are often in conflict. I've clearly been very
> reluctant to take the renaming step, because I know it will cause a
> lot of acrimony. But just be
Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 02:10 -0400, Eric Dorland a écrit :
> > In the firefox case, people say "You have all the rights of the
> > license;
> > and as long as it's in Debian or it's not modified, you may call it
> > firefox".
>
> Exactly. How is that permissible under DFSG #8.
The logic behi
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 14:42 +0200, Jonas Meurer a écrit :
>
> i think it should. i second the idea that debian should provide
> sources
> to the community which are entirely free. sources which contain the
> Mozilla trademarks and ignore their license are not entirely free.
Debian defines "free
Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 12:50 -0400, Eric Dorland a écrit :
> > I don't think it's arcane. It's a perfectly reasonable thing to do,
> > which Debian itself has done in the past (TrustedDebian -> Adamantix)
> >
> > You're free to make /any/ modifications to firefox, as long as you
> > either ren
Le jeudi 16 juin 2005 à 01:03 -0400, Eric Dorland a écrit :
> > The Mozilla Foundation have made many shows of good faith via Gervase in
> > this long running debate which he has continued to follow despite the
> > criticisms levelled at him/the Mozilla Foundation. Obviously if they
> > turn aroun
Le jeudi 23 juin 2005 à 19:33 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit :
> * Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050623 19:31]:
> > On Jun 23, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > There are plans to merge @packages.d.o and @packages.QA.d.o, so that
> > > both reach the maintainer and the PTS subscr
Le lundi 11 juillet 2005 à 09:17 +0200, Marc Haber a écrit :
> Mailing list moderation is broken for like three months. There is an -
> unreplied - tracker ticket (#301440) open, people have been prodded on
> IRC multiple times, and all I got - after two weeks of trying to get
> this issue at least
Le lundi 11 juillet 2005 à 17:57 +0200, Eduard Bloch a écrit :
> > Did you try to check where the problem is ? Did you try to prepare a
> > patch for us to apply ?
>
> It's not my beer, but... did you ask for one? Did you ask for help at
> all (since there seem to be real problems, my last request
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006, David Nusinow wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:56:44PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > * David Nusinow [Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:37:23 +]:
> >
> > > (I'm seriously
> > > interested in setting up git.debian.org for XSF work, for example*),
> >
> > > * If anyone else is inter
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> >Another, perhaps more parseable format, would be:
> >
> > X-VCS-Url: ${VCS}:${URL}
> > X-Vcs-Url: bzr:http://people.debian.org/~adeodato/code/packages/taglib
> >
> >Though you'd had to wonder what you'd do with a svn:// url.
> >
>
> Looks good, but i
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Russ Allbery wrote:
> We really need to put our heads together and come up with a good system
> for managing pre-built kernel modules for the kernels in Debian. It's a
> much more widespread problem than just a question of free vs. non-free.
> It's possible to do right now, bu
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> accessible mail server. The point is that I only experience this
> problem with Alioth and SourceForge lists, where they use braindead call
> back mechanism to try and reach the host that originated the message.
I'm an Alioth administrator. If you
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Brian May [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:22:55 +1000]:
>
> > Adeodate> Also, do you remember having root
> > Adeodato> bzr as root?
>
> > Huh?
>
> Sorry, that should have read: "do you remember having *run* bzr as root".
> It's the most likely cause fo
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> On the other hand, I already tried to discuss that problem with you
> guys (alioth admin team) in May 2006; nothing really came out of
> it. Wichert questioned that it was a problem at all, I (tried to)
> explain why it was a problem, nothing further
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 07:17:47PM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:48:00PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> >
> > > Debian needs to make a decision on how it will deal with this legal
> > > minefield. Tha
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006, martin f krafft wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> we're in the middle of the BSPMarathon[0]. Among the things new this
> year (as opposed to the sarge BSPs) are usertags for claiming bugs
> [1]. Unfortunately, the BTS is known to lag a bit these days, and it
> won't get better during a BSP
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Would you like to have gtkpod installed automatically if an ipod is in
> the machine? Or 915resolution if your video card is supported by it?
> Or perhaps mpt-status if your RAID controller uses the mptscshih
> kernel module? Until yesterday, this
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > the best would be to use a dedicated tracker... it might be the time
> > to try to use the result of Arnaud's summer of code: the
> > "Distribution wide tracker tool", codenamed "Working together made
> > easy". :-)
> >
> > http://netu.naquadah.org:80
Hi,
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> yesterday, I failed to login svn.debian.org with ssh.
> I was asked Passwd and input the correct passwd (as far
> as I remembered) three times but failed.
>
> I was given my first passwd in 2001/01 and it was changed
> in 2003/12/16 (p
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> > So I tried to get a new passwd
> > following the instruction of http://db.debian.org/password.html
> > at about 12am JST (3am UTC) but I've gotten nothing yet (after
> > one day already).
>
> Does the procedure
>
> echo "Please change my Debian passw
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> Unfortunately, I haven't seen much support for my position yet - most
> responses are in the line of "if you don't want to be flamed, don't set
> the mailinglist to moderated". I remain at "flaming your fellows never
> helps the project, making requests
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 September 2006 02:11, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > It is really unfortunate that the regulation of moderation is hidden
> > under a "privacy" menu in Mailman. Maybe the most straightforward mean
> > to slove this in the future would be to make the
Hi,
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Arnaud Fontaine wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Owner: Arnaud Fontaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name: bzr-plugin-webserve
> Version : web interface for bazaar-ng
> Upstream Author : Goffredo Baroncelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
> Il giorno mer, 20/09/2006 alle 10.31 +0200, Daniel Baumann ha scritto:
> > I know I could get it from gluck, but I wanted to be kind and ask before
> > I take it.
> >
> > Thanks a lot, very well done. I'll modify it so that I can track
> > differenc
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Cool, didn't know that.
> > But it doesn't work for packages that are already installed via apt-get.
> > I guess I'll use aptitude instead of apt-get from now on, and try to
> > cleanup via apt-findremovable :)
>
> Some of us are partial to apt-get and w
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate
> >> apt-findremovable.
>
> > I would rather appreciate that apt
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Roland Mas wrote:
> Sam Morris, 2006-10-11 13:40:08 +0200 :
>
> > I think HAL/PolicyTool/pam_foreground will eventually give us a
> > (slow?) solution to problems like this, but it's some way off at the
> > moment. Being able to add/revoke permissions with traditional
> > secu
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> The only clean way to do this is IMO a dedicated upgrader tool. This
> tool could then have special rules for the following issues:
I don't know if we need such a tool, but it would be definitely helpful if
we had a mechanism to give "hints" to aptitu
Hi,
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061025 08:04]:
> > [...]
>
> Manoj, I'm seriously asking you if we can delay this discussion until
> after Etch is out. I'm very interessted in takeing part in the
> discussion, but I really have already to ma
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > As a side note: yes, we know SVN isn't reachable through svn://.
> > The SVN server is up, but the relevant port is blocked by the firewall
> > at the hosting facility. The admins have been contacted. In the
> > meantime, use svn+ssh:// if you can
Hi,
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006, Peter Samuelson wrote:
>
> [Norbert Preining]
> > | The SSH keys are not synchronized between alioth.debian.org and
> > | svn.debian.org.
> >
> > so this seems to be outdated.
>
> Correct - svn.debian.org _is_ alioth.debian.org, as of last Friday.
I updated the wiki pa
Hello,
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Santiago Vila wrote:
> While we are at it, allowing each user to choose among several popular
> DNSBLs would be great too. In fact, there is a dnslists file in /etc/exim4
> which already contains several role accounts (and at least one which is not).
> We would just nee
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Santiago Vila wrote:
> What about elementary HELO checking? Do they need "patches" as well?
> [ I would gladly explain how to do it with postfix, but we are using exim ].
I can't answer for them. But as an alioth admin, I always like patches
even for changes which look like tr
Hello,
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Am Mo den 8. Jan 2007 um 5:15 schrieb Steve Langasek:
> [flame]
>
> is it really necessary to start flames in this list? Kevin Mark did
> answer completely objective. To bring him down with this kind of answer
> is absolute below the
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007, Marcus Better wrote:
> Christoph Berg wrote:
> > Note that you can subscribe additional packages to any maintainer
> > view. The GIS team does that:
>
> Is there a way to subscribe a mailing list to receive bug reports also,
> without having the mailing list in the Maintainer
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Thomas Hood writes ("Re: conffile purging and maintainer scripts"):
> > If a file /etc/foo was formerly a conffile of the package but no
> > longer is so then /etc/foo should be dealt with in the preinst or
> > postinst.
>
> Regrettably this is currently t
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, James Troup wrote:
> This Saturday (2006-03-25) between 13:00 - 21:00 UTC, the debian.org
> machines hosted by HP are going down due to maintenance in their cage
> on the power systems. The following machines and services are
> affected:
>
> o gluck - people.d.o, planet.d.o,
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> In many packages there is more than one author, more than one
> copyright-holder and more than one license. Do not miss to list them
> all, even if that other license is just for one file. Yes, any single
> file is important.
Each package with translatio
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > Questions/Proposals like these are not concerning Debian development per
> > se and would be better suited for debian-project.
>
> I disagree. It certainly does concern development.
The line is blur, and when don't know really of which side it should
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 10:08:21AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > On 10622 March 1977, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
>
> >> I'm trying to upload a new mailman package, but this is failing
> >> utterly. Could someone please help me? Thanks in advance.
>
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Which uses debian/changelog ... the ":" is used to indicate a "period",
> > period can be used to use smaller upstream version if you increased it by
> > error (or if you really need to use an older upstream version).
>
> > The period should be a sing
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Luca Capello wrote:
> > For 2.2, I'd recommend that NM's maintain a page about them on
> > wiki.d.org (my current applicant did that, and I found that rather
> > useful). In a glance you can see applicants that are not comited
> > enough.
>
> I wouldn't measure an NM commitmen
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Luca Capello wrote:
> I fear of the fact that my wiki page will be outdated, while my
> involvement in Debian not. Probably it's a specific problem of mine,
> as I try to be the most perfectionist I can and... without success.
>
> Obviously, as soon as the wiki page will be a
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Luca Capello wrote:
> > Well, the wiki page has a "last change" date. The AM (or FD) will
> > notice that it's not up-to-date and they can ask you to update it.
>
> Thank you for the explanation.
>
> Last questions:
>
> - is there something like a template for an NM page?
N
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Simon Huggins wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:13:13PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > * All existing packaging projects should use svnmailer to send SVN diffs
> > to the Package Tracking System. A sample configuration file is provided
> > and I
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > I am inclined to agree with the bug reporter, but I want to double check
> > and ask if anybody has other arguments.
>
> I use ifrename to give useful names to interfaces and just because udev
> may be able to do this now as well does not mean they s
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Frank Küster wrote:
> > I even documented that configuration in the sample configuration file.
> > That's what I've done with python-modules recently. Some people subscribe
> > to the -commits list because they are very involved in the team and other
> > just use the PTS to fol
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Meanwhile, which is the PTS keyword that will control the receipt of svn
> commit notifications? Looking at [1] the only one I can figure out is
> "cvs". Can that be generalized and/or "svn" added? I know, it's a really
> minor point, but why not sig
Russ wrote:
> > In fact, upload notifications (the one that includes the changelog) are
> > not, so far as I can tell, sent to the maintainer by default and I end up
> > subscribing to the PTS to get those even for packages where I'm the only
> > maintainer.
I subscribe to debian-devel-changes for
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Simon Huggins wrote:
> Sure the config file was clearer on that than your mail certainly.
:-)
> Yes this makes more sense now. I must admit I still thought the PTS was
> only really a way to get all the bugs for a package.
>
> Is there a reason that when you subscribe to th
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > - when the maintainer changes, we logically need to unsubcribe the previous.
> > So this must be recorded somewhere. (it's not a subscription like the
> > others)
>
> Isn't that a non issue if you subscribe @p.d.o ?
I didn't thought of subscribing t
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> I guess more people are interested in that, but this should be
> different keyword triggered when debian-release marks a package for
> bin-NMU, but not for the >10 separate uploads.
I tend to agree. In fact I have a wishlist bug to show the bin-nmu on
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, Simon Huggins wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 03:46:36PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Simon Huggins wrote:
> > > I'll go look at adding the PTS to pkg-xfce now anyway.
> > Thanks!
>
> Except as discussed on I
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > We would still need a way to reset the set of keyword of this email
> > when the maintainer changes.
>
> Or have simpler rules: you can't change the set of keyword for
> @p.d.o.
>
> If a maintainer wants some special set of keyword, he can still
> subsc
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Those cases can be treated differently than failures due to other
> > reasons, though.
>
> Uh, yes; and they are. But that's not the point.
>
> The point really is that build failures rarely need maintainer
> intervention. Bothering the maintainer
On Wed, 03 May 2006, Ondrej Sury wrote:
> (added openldap2.2 + gnutls to SummerOfCode2006 page)
>
> Status of sending notification mails:
> [fr] PhilBat: (421, 'Too many concurrent SMTP connections; please try
> again later.')
> [en] PhilippKern, RaphaelHertzog, AlphaPapa, AlexanderSchmehl,
> Stev
Hi,
On Thu, 04 May 2006, Joe Smith wrote:
> It seems to me that it is unreasonable for the PTS to be updated before the
> policy package actually hits the mirrors.
> There is a period of time after a package leaves incomming but before the
> mirrors are updated when the package is difficult to
>
On Fri, 05 May 2006, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > What processes, infrastructure and tools are in place to streamline
> > Debian integrating improvements Ubuntu makes?
>
> See the Utnubu project (on Alioth). Having automatic mail notifications
> and the like was discussed, but many DDs did not want an
On Fri, 12 May 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > How about, right now, just a statement "this is what the issues are".
> > Or even, "this [URL here] is the mailing list post where the issues
> > are outlined."
>
> I forgot about them. So, I need to collect them again. Even release
> managers don't ha
Hello everybody,
Ubuntu has made some efforts to better support a wide range of laptops and
this resulted in some changes that are still not completely integrated in
Debian.
One of the changes is that they install automatically a package called
"acpi-support" which provides lots of laptop-specif
On Sun, 21 May 2006, Francesco Poli wrote:
> > Anyway, the background is that James Troup, Jeroen van Wolffelaar and
> > myself examined the license before accepting it into non-free (which
> > is three times the usual examination,
>
> It may be three times the usual examination, but when the lice
On Sun, 21 May 2006, Thomas Weber wrote:
> Don't you think that the main problem here is that there *wasn't* any
> discussion, at least for the vast majority of Debian developers and
> users?
No, if we should discuss before taking any action we wouldn't get
anything done. If you really want to con
On Sun, 21 May 2006, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> I know I shouldn't, but I was really upset by your answer.
You shouldn't be upset.
> I'm happy that people speak up and claim their fear with this licence, and
> no,
This is OK. They can ask questions and have a right to know why ftpmasters
accepted
On Sun, 21 May 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le dimanche 21 mai 2006 à 22:38 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst a écrit :
> > Given this legal background of yours, could you please help by using that
> > to improve the licence, instead of just complaining about how others
> > handled it? Please give the righ
On Sun, 21 May 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > interested in java in non-free, it's not your job to try to forbid them to
> > work on that.
>
> Not if it hurts the project. And it does.
You think it does. Others do. Others don't. I don't. Start a GR if you
think the ftpmasters are wrong. There'
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.13.0149 +0200]:
> > - The current pythonX.Y-foo packages having modules in the python
> >library path are collapsed into one package python-foo. Binary
> >independent modules are made avai
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le Mar 13 Juin 2006 07:12, Anthony Towns a écrit :
> > Apps can do either:
> >
> > Package: foo
> > Depends: python (>= 2.4), python-bar
> >
> > /usr/bin/foo: #!/usr/bin/env python
>
> doesn't it breaks if python-bar only provides 2.3 modul
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 04:33:50PM +0200, Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Probably the biggest reason why I feel this extra time would be useful
> > is because the new Python Policy and the tools supporting it saw
> > non-negligible changes
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> We also have many python applications (or badly packaged modules which
> have not been caught by the first mass-bug filing) that have a dependency
> "python (<< 2.4)" and that needs to be updated as well. Please find the
&g
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Is an archive of those mails available somewhere? This way the "small
> patches" will be available even for packages of people not subscribed to
> the PTS. Or for people who subscribe after some version has been
> uploaded to ubuntu.
There's only th
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> On 2006-07-17 20:39, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> > The Ubuntu distribution will be the first to make use of this new feature.
> > Each time that a new package is uploaded to Ubuntu, the PTS will receive
> > the diff between
Hi Matthias,
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
> well, there's curently only one person spreading lies and fud about
> python packaging, so please don't talk about "lies" as well.
Please stop ranting against Josselin, in particular if you have nothing
precise/factual to criticize. You're
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > Denis, pissed off
> > PS: No, I am not joking
>
> Raphael ensured us that this would be an opt-in notification, and we agreed
> to provide the data feed for it under this assumption. If there was a
> configuration error which caused this not to be th
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > experimental has a python-defaults pointing to 2.4
>
> When did this happen? Is there some reason you didn't reply to my
> status-requests with this information? Why are you trying to keep
> thing
Hello,
the debian-admin CVS repository is not accessible via pserver. After some
discussion with Joey, it looks like it's a choice of DSA rather than a
mistake (security concern with pserver implementation probably). And since
the web interface [1] also doesn't provide any nice way to download the
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