On Fri, 05 May 2006, Daniel Stone wrote: > > What processes, infrastructure and tools are in place to streamline > > Debian integrating improvements Ubuntu makes? > > See the Utnubu project (on Alioth). Having automatic mail notifications > and the like was discussed, but many DDs did not want anything to do > with it, so the idea was quickly dropped.
The PTS will receive notifications once Gustavo Franco enables his script. There's a new "derivatives" keyword for that. I will announce that when it becomes effective. > > It seems to me that Ubuntu is getting alot more out of their friendship > > with Debian, than Debian gets out of Ubuntu. Anyone have comments on > > this? Please correct me if I'm wrong, and examples would be great. > > Does Debian get lots of benefits from Ubuntu (in the software) that I'm > > unaware of? > > ... GNOME, Xorg, et al. We do benefit but we could benefit way more. In several occasions when I discovered an interesting bug fix in Ubuntu I informed the Debian maintainer. (example: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=351621) Some people like Ian Jackson work for Ubuntu and always send their patches back to Debian: he has done so for at least dpkg and firefox on several occasions. Colin Watson is working directly on debian-installer as part of his Ubuntu work as well. I wish more Ubuntu developers would act like Ian and Colin. Ubuntu also introduced some packages to provide better support for laptop (like acpi-support) and those packages are not always submitted back. I recently asked Matthew Garrett to upload it to Debian also so that our laptop task could install it... In short: in many cases we need to pull out ourselves what we want, you can't rely on Ubuntu developers to send all enhancements to us directly. That's sad, but that's not a reason to not make the effort to look into Ubuntu and see what we can grab. And that's precisely the purpose of Utnubu... but this project needs fresh blood. There's a dormant mailing list and that's all right now. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Premier livre français sur Debian GNU/Linux : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
