Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 03:21:44PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 16, Simon Richter wrote: > > > Well, it would get i386/amd64 in line with sparc/sparc64, powerpc/powerpc64 > > and s390/s390x. That would allow us to get rid of a lot of specianl cases, > > including the hack for libc6-386. >

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:45:32PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 16, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > > I think it would be very helpful if somebody could summarize why a > > > multiarch system is useful, except for the obvious case of installing > > > prop

Re: group nvram

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:42:52AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 17, Stephen Gran wrote: > > > This is the thinkpad /dev/nvram stuff, right? I thought for some tpctl > I think so. > > The rationale for this change is harmonization with all other > distributions. > > > utilities to work,

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:02:48PM -0700, Daniel Moerner wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote: > > To me, it seems like since one has to go through all of the source files > > anyway, creating a list of copyright holders while you are doing it is a > > trivial task.  I do

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 09:09:53AM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:02:48PM -0700, Daniel Moerner wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote: >>>> To me, it seems like since one has to

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:20:14PM +, Noah Slater wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:07:44PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le vendredi 20 mars 2009 à 13:02 +0100, Romain Beauxis a écrit : > > > Le Friday 20 March 2009 12:55:05 Josselin Mouette, vous avez écrit : > > > > Fine. Do you hav

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:24:01PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Le Friday 20 March 2009 13:07:44 Josselin Mouette, vous avez écrit : > > > It is not about co-maintaining, but about co-reviewing which is a totally > > > different task. > > > > Do you really think we can find an unlimited amount

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:11:20AM +, Noah Slater wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 07:46:11AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > In shorter words: I think something should be done about the copyright > > > file to encourage developers to actually perform an audit of the &g

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 02:02:31PM +, Noah Slater wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 02:41:31PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > It behoves us as distributors to check, no matter how hard it is. > > > > > > If you think that sounds like too much work, maintain a

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 02:35:34PM +, Noah Slater wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 03:13:29PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > No, look at the text I quoted : you suggested to maintain a different > > package. > > Yes, out of several emails I sent to the list, you selec

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 02:40:18PM +, Noah Slater wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 03:14:36PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le vendredi 20 mars 2009 à 14:02 +, Noah Slater a écrit : > > > If we were suggesting some totally arbitrary and time consuming task, > > > then I > > > could

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 02:59:35PM +, Noah Slater wrote: > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 01:46:51AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > > I don't see what your problem is. > > > > It seems that the problem is that “look for collaborators” is what > > they're already doing, without apparent impact on the p

experimental buildds using too much of experimental ?

Hi, I noticed that the autobuilt webkit on amd64 depends on the sqlite library package from experimental. This sounds pretty unfortunate, as webkit doesn't require a specific version of libsqlite, and would work fine with the unstable one. On the other hand, as a user, I would be quite disappointe

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 03:58:34PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > >> No. It is not up to the Debian maintainer to decide that some > >> contributor has written enough of the code to also be mentioned in the > >> (C) lines in a particular file. But as soon as upstream lists them > >> either in a f

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:49:12PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Jonas Meurer writes: > > On 21/03/2009 Mike Hommey wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 03:58:34PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > >>> Honestly, if you cant deal with listing the Authors/(C) holder

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:55:58PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Well, the one thing that I think we need to clarify here is whether we > need to list the licenses for files that aren't source code for what goes > into the binary distribution, such as the build system. The files from > Autoconf and

Re: dpkg and hardlinks

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:09:25PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Jerome Warnier wrote: > > For files from packages, though, deduplication might be a good idea, as > > dpkg is supposedly the only one to ever modify the files (under /usr for > > example). > > I don't know how

Re: dpkg and hardlinks

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:34:09PM +0100, Jerome Warnier wrote: > Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > > Jerome Warnier wrote: > >> Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Jerome Warnier wrote: > >>> > For files from packages, though, deduplication might be a good > idea, as >

Re: dpkg and hardlinks

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 03:11:17PM +0100, Jerome Warnier wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:34:09PM +0100, Jerome Warnier > > wrote: > > > >> Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > >> > >>> Jerome Warni

Re: Alioth - Convert SVN repo to Git

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 02:13:42PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 08:44:55PM +0100, sean finney wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:52:28AM -0700, Ryan Niebur wrote: > > > > find . -type f -name 'foo*.dsc' | sort (or similar tools, make sure > > > > they're > > > > sorted

Re: Alioth - Convert SVN repo to Git

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:31:59AM +0100, sean finney wrote: > hi mike, > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:29:59PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > You don't need to do that on initial import. You can use a grafts file > > to create the history you like from these 2 unrelated

Re: Drop of Iceape: what should do the plugin maintainers?

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 02:04:44PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:27:37AM +, w...@debian.org a écrit : > > > >iceape (#520662), orphaned 5 days ago > > Description: The Iceape Internet Suite > > Reverse Depends: iceape-dev mozilla-firefox-adblock > >

Re: demoting a dependency

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 03:21:02PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Is there a more elegant way to do this? You just don't do it like that, because: $ ldd /usr/lib/news/bin/auth/passwd/auth_krb5 | grep com_err libcom_err.so.2 => /lib/libcom_err.so.2 (0xb7f2f000) If you don't want to depend o

Re: #522196 - RFP: gnu icecat - the GNU version of Mozilla Firefox

On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 03:42:22PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > Hi, > * Raphael Geissert [2009-04-02 19:45]: > > [Security team BCC'ed] > > > > Hi, > > > > Do we really need another mozilla browser around? > > Last time I heard the iceweasel maintainers were looking for other people > > to > >

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:24:54AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 16:17 +0200, Harald Braumann wrote: > > You can't specify boot options per entry (there's only a global option > > in /etc/default grub, that applies to all entries). > > Sure you can, just don't use update-

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:02:04PM +0400, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: > OS> I also share the feeling that a lot of people still uses LILO; if > OS> possible I do belive it should be kept. > > I use lilo, I like lilo. > I don't like grub because it has unlogically config, unlogically > behavior, st

Re: Writing symbols files for C++ libraries.

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 01:22:51AM +0200, Daniel Kobras wrote: > Hi! > > I'm currently fighting with deb symbols files for a C++ library I'm > packaging, and I'd like to get some insight in how others are coping > with this task. In particular, I wonder how to get rid of symbols from > standard

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:10:25PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:42:42AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 18:19 +0200, Vincent Zweije wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 06:06:38PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > > >

Re: Writing symbols files for C++ libraries.

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 12:15:19PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 07 avril 2009 à 11:57 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit : > > I found nothing better than using a version script. I'm lucky that the > > library in question (WebKit) only really exports C symbols, and C++

Re: Bug#522996: ITP: jruby1.2 -- 100% pure-Java implementation of Ruby

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 12:09:56PM -0700, Sebastien Delafond wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Sebastien Delafond > > > > * Package name: jruby1.2 > Version : 1.2.0 > Upstream Author : The JRuby Team > * URL : http://jruby.codehaus.org/ > * License

Re: Bug#522996: ITP: jruby1.2 -- 100% pure-Java implementation of Ruby

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 01:08:17PM -0700, Sebastien Delafond wrote: > On Apr/07, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Why do we need jruby1.0, jruby1.1 and now jruby1.2 ? > > so multiple versions of jruby can be simultaneously installed on a > system, like with python2.x, ruby1.x, etc ? Whil

Re: Bug#522996: ITP: jruby1.2 -- 100% pure-Java implementation of Ruby

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 01:40:54PM -0700, Sebastien Delafond wrote: > On Apr/07, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > The question was, rather: why would a user want to install jruby1.0 or > > jruby1.1 instead of jruby1.2? What purpose does it serve having three > > different versions in the archive instead of

Re: Bug#522996: ITP: jruby1.2 -- 100% pure-Java implementation of Ruby

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 02:17:09PM -0700, Sebastien Delafond wrote: > On Apr/07, Mike Hommey wrote: > > But why a need for two versions at a time ? AFAICS, jruby 1.2 supports > > both ruby 1.8 *and* 1.9, as jruby 1.1 does, so why would jruby 1.1 > > still be needed ? >

Re: [Soc-coordination] Google Summer of Code 2009: Debian's Shortlist

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:59:49AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Lucas Nussbaum (lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net) [090410 10:30]: > > On 10/04/09 at 09:18 +0200, Obey Arthur Liu wrote: > > > * Debian Autobuilding Infrastructure Rewrite * > > > -- > > > Stude

Re: RFA: acpi-support -- glue layer for translating laptop buttons, plus legacy suspend support

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 05:58:49PM +0200, Luca Niccoli wrote: > 2009/4/12 Raphael Hertzog : > > > Expect grumpy people every time that you add something new that they have > > to learn. I also had troubles with hal and X when I tried the X servers in > > experimental. But I have not read any ser

Re: Yes, we have bugs

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:02:16PM +0200, Luca Niccoli wrote: > 2009/4/15 David Nusinow : > > > Please see the reply I just posted to the bug for a partial explanation of > > why using hal is important for more than just hotplugging. I'll be writing > > up a more complete explanation soon. > > I

Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:41:52PM +0200, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > Hi, > > > > As some of you may be aware, myself and a few others are working towards > > an AVR32 port of Debian, which is now making good progress. One problem > > we've come across is since AVR32 is such a new architecture

Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:22:24AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Bradley Smith wrote: > > > As some of you may be aware, myself and a few others are working towards > > an AVR32 port of Debian, which is now making good progress. One problem > > we've come across is si

Re: Bug#525481: Wrong usage of gnome proxy settings

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 09:56:54AM +0200, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Il giorno ven, 24/04/2009 alle 22.30 +0200, Mike Hommey ha scritto: > [...] > > I'm not sure iceweasel uses gnome settings, but uses what gnome exports > > in the *_proxy environment vari

Re: autoconf2.13 (was Re: Outdated config.{sub,guess} package list)

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:10:46PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > Ben Pfaff wrote: > > (Maybe it's time to get rid of the autoconf2.13 package > > altogether, come to think of it.) > > It's still needed for just about everything put out by Mozilla, alas > (iceweasel et al, obviously, but also libns

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff?

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:53:12AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Noah Slater writes: > > > Yes, I know the L command, but thanks for pointing it out! My argument > > is that I have to remember to use when I am replying to the Debian > > lists, which as you can see, doesn't happen very often. > > No

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff?

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 08:25:29AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Peter Eisentraut writes: > > > Considering that most mailing list software has an elimnatecc feature, > > this is never really a problem for people who don't want that sort of > > behavior. > > This "feature" is hideously broken fo

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff?

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 08:12:22PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Brett Parker writes: > > > On 27 Apr 18:55, Noah Slater wrote: > > > Unfortunately, I don't use folders so I don't think this will work > > > for me. > > > > *boggle* - you claim to be on multiple lists and yet you don't use > > serve

Re: deprecating /usr as a standalone filesystem?

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 04:38:59PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > There's a patch for /etc/mtab elimination; it's totally unneeded nowadays. More than unneeded, it is absolutely irrelevant when using mount namespaces. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Bug#530022: ITP: vmfs-tools -- Tools to access VMFS filesystems

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Hommey * Package name: vmfs-tools Version : 0.1.0 soon to be released Upstream Author : Christophe Fillot Mike Hommey * URL : none yet * License : GPLv2+ Programming Lang: C Description

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 09:40:20PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Luis Felipe Tabera wrote: > > On Sábado, 30 de Mayo de 2009 18:38:40 Marco d'Itri escribió: > >> On May 31, Pino Toscano wrote: > >>> This means the author of the PDF set that users shouldn't (in their will) > >>> copy the text from t

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 03:54:29PM +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On Sunday 31 May 2009 15:32:25 John Goerzen wrote: > > > > #2 and #4 especially should be exceptionally trivial patches. > > > Why are you tagging it wontfix, Sune? > > I see no reason to deviate from upstream's choices here, no ma

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 04:02:35PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:56:25PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > Josselin Mouette writes: > > > > > Unless you are volunteering to write and maintain these files for our > > > large source packages, for which maintainers have already ex

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:30:31AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 06:10:56PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > If the sole purpose of the format is to have a machine-parseable format, > > if it doesn't apply to all packages, then the fact that it is >

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:54:42PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 06:33:45PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:30:31AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 06:10:56PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > &

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:18:13PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 07:23:52PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Other reasons that are ... ? cf. <1244737135.14878.211.ca...@shizuru> > > I guess various people have various reasons. > > Personall

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 07:56:09PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:48:26AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Josselin Mouette writes: > > > That doesn’t hold. Most of my copyright files are much easier to read > > > than DEP5-like ones. > > > > Yes, I agree. My existing pre-DE

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:06:54AM +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 21:11 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 07:56:09PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:48:26AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >

Re: Let’ s turn DEP5 into something useful

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:06:31AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > Requiring any details of precisely which files are affected makes the > whole thing impossible because that requires some form of mass-update > (or at least mass check of individual files) at every upstream release. > Let's just drop

Re: Switching the default /bin/sh to dash

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 06:47:07AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Donnerstag 25 Juni 2009 05:21:45 schrieb Raphael Geissert: > > I just noticed I forgot to say something: > > > What won't change: > > > * Bash will still be used as the default interactive shells for users > > > > * the sh symlin

Re: New project goal: Get rid of Berkeley DB (post jessie)

On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:29:59PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 19 juin 2014 à 11:38 +0200, Ondřej Surý a écrit : > > Debian Evolution Maintainers > > > >evolution-data-server > > I think this change is already underway upstream. Most evolution > databases use SQLite now, but Be

Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 08:17:51AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Thomas Goirand: > > Well, I don't agree with this view. If LibreSSL pretends to be a > > replacement for OpenSSL, then they should care about being ABI > > compatible, so we can easily switch from one implementation to the

Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 02:02:18PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Bernhard R. Link: > > * Mike Hommey [140713 12:55]: > > > Contrary to what you seem to believe, this only really works if *both* > > > libraries have versioned symbols. Otherwise, yo

Re: Bug#762839: bash without importing shell functions from the environment

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 04:29:05PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Package: bash > Version: 4.1-3 > > I have prepared bash packages which do not honour any shell functions > they find in the environment. IMO that is a crazy feature, which > ought to be disabled. (I'm running this on chiark now and n

Re: Bug#762839: bash without importing shell functions from the environment

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 01:37:48PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > On 26 September 2014 12:08, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > > brian@aquitard:~$ sudo echo='() { /bin/echo bar; }' bash > > > root@aquitard:/home/brian# echo hello > > > bar > > > > I think you have that backwards, don't you? Shouldn't that

Version for a returning package

Hi, I'm going to reintroduce unversioned libnspr4 and libnss3 for various reasons. These packages used to exist in the Debian archive, but the last time they were seen was in sarge. The first release *not* including them was etch. This is quite some time ago. The versions they had by then had an

Re: Version for a returning package

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:40:14PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2012-05-13 11:49 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13 +0200, a écrit : > >> The versions they had by then had an epoch. Supposedly, to make the new > >> versi

Re: amd64 as default architecture

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 02:00:21PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 11:27 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Ben Hutchings writes: > > > > > Most new PCs have an Intel or AMD 64-bit processor, and > > > popcon.debian.org shows amd64 numbers almost matching i386. > > > > > >

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs is fine

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 06:59:35PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > I hesitate to prolong this thread further, but I do have a couple of > data points. (and couldn't let Neil's nonsense go). > > +++ Neil Williams [2012-05-25 16:15 +0100]: > > > So instead of fixing the defaults you suggest everybody to drop

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useful

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 08:20:46PM +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > On 26/05/12 19:43, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez writes: > >> On 26/05/12 19:13, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > >>> I find some of the assertions in this thread confusing. I've been > >>> using tmpfs /t

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useful

On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 09:29:46AM +0300, Serge wrote: > 2012/6/1 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > All the complaints about /tmp as tmpfs come down to one simple issue: > > The size of the tmpfs isn't chosen well. > > Mounting /tmp to tmpfs not just breaks a lot of apps and reduces system > stab

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:42:03AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Hideki Yamane wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 17:58:16 +0200 > > Adam Borowski wrote: > > > • xz -6 (the default) is a lot slower when compressing, fast when > > > decompressing, needs only 10MB memory, 58% size > > > • xz -9 has v

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source (Was: Minified javascript files)

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55:02AM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote: > Andreas Tille wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 09:39:05AM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > > Part of the problem is that we lack good tools to do this extra work > > > for us. > > > > As an unrelated idea which popped up when reading

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source (Was: Minified javascript files)

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:23:56PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55:02AM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote: > > Andreas Tille wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 09:39:05AM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > > > Part of the problem is that we lack go

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 02:51:27PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > What I mean is that this still happens: > > # ifup eth0 > ... > # ifconfig eth0 down > # ifup eth0 > ifup: interface eth0 already configured > > People talk about how ifupdown works well with other configuration > tools, unlike Netw

Re: default MTA

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:09:07PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 28 mai 2013 à 10:34 +0100, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : > > There is an impedence mismatch between packages which consider an MTA and > > the > > sendmail interface to be standard and those desktop components that make no

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:33:03PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Hi, > we need to change the way security fixes are handled for Mozilla > in stable-security. The backporting of security fixes is no > longer sustainable resource-wise. > > As such, we'll switch to releasing the ESR releases of

Re: Switching default dpkg-source compressor for V2+ formats to xz

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 03:52:51AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > I'd like to switch the default dpkg-source compressor to xz for V2+ > (not for V1) source formats, as suggested by Ansgar Burchardt in [0]. > > [0] > > After ha

Re: Move all to /usr

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 01:13:38AM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > Marco d'Itri writes: > > On Oct 11, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le mardi 11 octobre 2011 à 16:32 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : > > >>> I am still not 100% persuaded that this would be easy to do, but at > >>> least

Re: zfs-fuse in debian

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:38:11PM +0200, József Dániel wrote: > Hello, > > Quick question. I see you maintain zfs-fuse. > > 0.7.0 is out since March, but it's not even in Sid. Is there some deep > reason to this, or just lack of time? The latter. It's on mentors, I need to go through the packag

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 01:58:53PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Ben, > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 08:48:08PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > Would it be worth adding a lintian check for instructions that may not > > be supported (bearing in mind that a fair few packages will need to > > ove

Re: armhf and s390x

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:14:59PM +, Mark Hymers wrote: > Hi, > > Earlier today, two new architectures had their base systems bootstrapped > into unstable. These new architectures are armhf and s390x. > > armhf went onto the mirrors with the 1952 dinstall mirror pulse and > s390x will follo

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 11:47:49PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > For those who haven’t followed, the latest debhelper upload includes the > following change: > >* Debhelper config files may be made executable programs that output the > desired configuration. No further changes are plan

Re: buildd on Armel, PowerPC and S390(x)? agree on narrowing error, why?

On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 10:41:35AM +0100, Steffen Möller wrote: > Dear list, > > I just sponsored a package that built nicely locally with g++ 6.4.2-5 on > amd64 but fails on the platforms listed in the subject line: > > https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=ball&suite=sid > > which

O: libxml2 -- GNOME XML library

Package: wnpp Severity: normal Due to lack of time and interest, I intend to orphan the libxml2 package. The package description is: XML is a metalanguage to let you design your own markup language. A regular markup language defines a way to describe information in a certain class of documents

O: libxslt -- XSLT 1.0 processing library - runtime library

Package: wnpp Severity: normal Due to lack of time and interest, I intend to orphan the libxslt package. The package description is: XSLT is an XML language for defining transformations of XML files from XML to some other arbitrary format, such as XML, HTML, plain text, etc. using standard XSL

Re: Do symbols make sense for C++

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 08:58:55AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 25 Jan 2012, Russ Allbery wrote: > > 4. Once I had a symbols file that resulted in a successful build and that > >I could have uploaded, I started thinking about how I was going to > >maintain it. With a C

Re: Do symbols make sense for C++

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:53:04PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > I'm currently working on the Policy modification to document (and > recommend) use of symbols instead of shlibs, but I'd only personally used > symbols with C libraries. Today I decided that I should try adding a > symbols file to a C

Re: Versionned dependencies

On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 11:14:43AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > Am 02.02.2012 10:54, schrieb Tanguy Ortolo: > > Packages can currenctly declared dependencies on specific versions of > > other packages, with simple relations: <<, <=, =, >= and >>. For > > instance: > > Pack

Re: Versionned dependencies

On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 11:33:01AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 11:14:43AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Am 02.02.2012 10:54, schrieb Tanguy Ortolo: > > > Packages can currenctly declared dependencies on specific ve

Re: Versionned dependencies

On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 12:10:17PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Mike Hommey (02/02/2012): > > As discussed on irc, if you instead do iceweasel-api-3.6, iceweasel-api-4.0, > > etc. you end up having crazy dependencies like: > > Depends: iceweasel-api-3.6 | iceweasel-api-4.

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory (Was: Bug#658139: evince: missing mime entry)

On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 12:27:40AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 02 février 2012 à 19:11 +, brian m. carlson a écrit : > > The mime-support solution is part of Policy. It is a perfectly working, > > fully-implemented solution. > > This is a blatant lack of knowledge of the curr

Re: Please test gzip -9n - related to dpkg with multiarch support

On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 05:13:20PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 13:19:17 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Well, it does mean that you might be lacking important information > > because the other changelog wouldn't be present on the system. > > While the implicit Replaces seems

Help (voodoo, really) needed [Re: failed i386 build of iceweasel 11.0~b1-2]

On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:14:59PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 09:25:19AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 05:16:16AM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 05:09:13PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > > H

Re: Help (voodoo, really) needed [Re: failed i386 build of iceweasel 11.0~b1-2]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:23:00PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Mike Hommey, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:09:37 +0100, a écrit : > > > sydney_audio_alsa.c:504:5: error: void value not ignored as it ought to be > > > > Would anyone have a clue as to what the hell is happening

Re: Help (voodoo, really) needed [Re: failed i386 build of iceweasel 11.0~b1-2]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:40:28PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Mike Hommey, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:36:56 +0100, a écrit : > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:23:00PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Mike Hommey, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:09:37 +0100, a écrit : > > > &g

Re: Help (voodoo, really) needed [Re: failed i386 build of iceweasel 11.0~b1-2]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:08:59PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:00:32PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:40:28PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Mike Hommey, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:36:56 +0100, a écrit : > > > >

Re: Help (voodoo, really) needed [Re: failed i386 build of iceweasel 11.0~b1-2]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:28:49PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:41:03PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:08:59PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:00:32PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > >

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 04:25:22PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > "John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell" writes: > > > I also fail to see how upstart or systemd add anything new while they > > obscure or delete previous good work (by suggesting init(1) is to be > > deleted). > > I would like to st

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 04:51:18PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > Excuse me, but what you're implying here is that systemd can dictate > the development of kernel interfaces. Sorry, but that's too far. > Can't you see the massive problem here? You are now preventing > cgroups being removed from the

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 09:58:23PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Kees Cook writes: > > > Speaking to the false positives problem, I've discussed with some people > > the idea of having build flags be included in some sort of ELF > > comment-like area that can be examined. That way it's becomes tri

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:16:47AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:53:18AM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:39:13AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:00:30AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > > > Your complaint, then, is ag

Re: On init in Debian

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:09:57AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-03-29 02:43:33 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > > $ sudo apt-get remove network-manager* > > $ sudo apt-get install wicd wicd-curses wicd-gtk > > ^ wicd-kde ? > > $ wicd-curs

Re: Math Fonts for Iceweasel and MathJax

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 03:15:26PM +0100, Frédéric WANG wrote: > On 18/12/2012 15:07, Mike Hommey wrote: > >And it doesn't. What you can see on > >http://packages.debian.org/sid/iceweasel is that the packages for > >alpha, hppa and powerpcspe, which are all outdated (3.

Re: Math Fonts for Iceweasel and MathJax

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 02:50:05PM +0100, Frédéric WANG wrote: > Dear Debian maintainers, > > I raised this issue about math font dependency in Iceweasel a couple > of time ago but I still don't see any changes at > http://packages.debian.org/sid/iceweasel... The issue was discussed > again on the

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