Re: CDPATH and shell scripts

2009-07-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:26:21PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Jonathan Yu writes: > > > How to fix them? Write Perl scripts, and turn on taint checking -- > > that fixes the four issues above, because it makes the script exit if > > any of them look dangerous. Env::Sanctify::Auto is a Perl modu

Re: Running a 32bits on debian amd64 system

2009-07-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:29:34PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > 'lo > > I am reading: > > http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292205 > > But everytime I chroot into my 32bits system, part of my system > still sees me as my user: > > $ sudo chroot

Re: Conflicting assignment of privileged ports on boot, once again

2009-07-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 07:46:14PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Gernot Salzer wrote: > > Hi, > > > - ... or is it up to the administrator to add the ports manually? > > That's it. The most common offenders are already in the list; if > you're seeing the problem routinely with a popular service

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:57:25AM +0200, Steffen Moeller wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:57:25PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > >> [Michael Biebl] > >>> Would it make sense to avoid the upload of "obviously" broken > >>> packages from buildds in the future. E.g.

Re: Switching /bin/sh to dash (part two)

2009-07-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:58:02AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 06:04:13PM +0200, Raphael Geissert wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > > > This is a follow up to my previous thread, with a slightly different > > proposal. > > > > What actually needs to be done is: > > * Make

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-08-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:23:40PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:14 AM, gregor herrmann wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:13:58 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Ben Finney wrote: > >> > I think that either of ‘Origin: vendor’ (for a patch created by

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-01 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 01:45:23PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 01, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > Wouldn't make it sense then if udev had a recommends or at least suggests > > for > > usbutils and pciutils? > Yes, the next upload (today in experimental maybe) will do this. > > > How will u

Re: Future of the s390 port

2009-09-03 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 12:16:53PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:32:14AM +0200, Martin Grimm wrote: > > So as long as there is no easy manual way to provide anonymized figures > > without installing software on our production servers we can't deliver > > such data :-( >

Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:53:30AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:32:02PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 03:03:40PM +0200, Felix Zielcke wrote: > > > Note that we only Suggests: os-prober and not Recommend: it like Ubuntu > > > does because of 491872

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 05:15:44PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 16:56 +0200, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : > > So no trying to convince glib upstream to reduce wrapper bloat? *sigh* > > What you are calling wrapper bloat is critical for portability of many > applicati

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:16:08PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 08 septembre 2009 à 13:00 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : > > Trusting a library to do all your error handling and cleanup is not good > > style IMHO. In addition to the lack of self-documenting source, it > > often leave yo

Re: Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 05:35:06PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 04:35:42PM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > > > With the namespace issue fixed and a blacklist to avoid mounting > > partitions in a virtualization environment, would it make sense to > > make grub-pc recommend

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 07:48:18PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 08:50:34AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Seems to me that we have a widely used convention (which might > > not be universal) that will meet our needs, and at least seems > > compatible with a

RFC about cosmetic bug whith partial upgrades vs. added symbol versioning

2009-09-11 Thread Mike Hommey
Hi fellow developers, I uploaded, yesterday, a new upstream of libxml2 that adds symbol versioning. There is actually no problem with this, and from my testing, everything is still working as expected (the most important part being that symbols have only been versioned, and none was removed). Any

Re: Talk: Reflections of a bigtime Debian bug reporter

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 01:46:31PM +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Especially the 'what did you expect' is important, as it often make it > > possible to differentiate between software bugs, documentation bugs > > and plan simple user e

Re: Discussion: New feature for source packages

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:41:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > "Hans-J. Ullrich" writes: > > Am Dienstag 15 September 2009 schrieb Peter Samuelson: > >> [Hans-J. Ullrich] > > >>> DKMS seems only be made for kernel modules. It is greart anyway, and > >>> a good help. But what with non-kernel- mod

Re: Discussion: New feature for source packages

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:49:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Mike Hommey writes: > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:41:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> I've been shipping an openafs-modules-dkms package since DKMS entered > >> the archive and love

Re: Discussion: New feature for source packages

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:57:06PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Mike Hommey writes: > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:49:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> Every time either the openafs-modules-dkms package or the kernel ABI > >> changes, a new module is automatic

Re: Discussion: New feature for source packages

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 01:11:07AM +0200, Luca Niccoli wrote: > 2009/9/16 Russ Allbery : > > > If there were a document of how to do automated module builds using > > triggers or a kernel hook, I'd be happy to try that as well. > > I tried to set up a kernel hook with the script I attached before

Re: replacing libreadline5-dev build dependency with libreadline-dev

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, Sep 13 2009, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > Both libreadline-dev (>= 6.0) and libreadline6-dev are now available > > in unstable and testing. If possible, please replace the > > libreadline5-dev build dependency with libreadl

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 09:25:39AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > But if we pack as non-native (as it should be: we are not upstream), > more problems arises: > we cannot patch anymore debian directory: on 3.0 source format > the original debian dir will disappear, thus removing the > debian/

Re: libjpeg62-dev -> libjpeg-dev transition

2009-09-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 12:04:32AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > Dear developers, > > There is a new version of libjpeg in the archive (JPEG7), but is it > not yet cleared for building packages against it. > > If your package Build-Depends on libjpeg62-dev, please change to 'libjpeg-dev' > (with

Re: Auto Backporting (Was: Backports of scientific packages)

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 03:56:00PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > So in short: we should choose the "well-defined" subset of packages > which are candidates for autobackporting according to their feature to > be buildable inside stable and using an control field to mark the > packages that way. Sh

Re: Auto Backporting (Was: Backports of scientific packages)

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 04:39:20PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 04:06:15PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 03:56:00PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > So in short: we should choose the "well-defined"

Re: Auto Backporting (Was: Backports of scientific packages)

2009-09-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 05:40:58PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > Shouldn't checking if Build-Depends are satisfiable in stable be enough? > > > And if it doesn't build that way, I'd say there's a bug in the package > > > anyways, because it should b

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 03:35:41PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > IME, simple initrds that don't really impact on your hability to boot > > are fine (and great to load firmware, CPU microcode and kernel modules), > > but anything else (like root on lvm or on non-auto-started md arrays) > > will ca

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:30:44PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > "Steve M. Robbins" writes: > > > I agree with Charles: this is unncessary, unproductive busy-work. > > The same characterisation could be given to other changes that raise the > quality of software in Debian (e.g. ensuring that comman

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptrea m (renamings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:59:03PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > David Goodenough wrote: > > > I am a newcommer to this particular bit of policy, but it occurs to me that > > the answer is to add links to the original commands to conform to > > Debian standards while leaving the upstream commands

Re: ITP: libjs-extjs -- a cross-browser JavaScript library

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 03:58:45PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 07 Oct 2009, Marcus Better wrote: > > This is non-free. Please keep it out of Debian. > > > > Surely you are aware of the huge controversy around Ext JS licensing. > > > > There is no need to repeat that story here, let me

Re: btrfs

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 02:24:36PM +, The Fungi wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 12:01:13AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > [...] > > But it has been pointed out a few times (including a couple of > > private messages) that experimental has what I desire (thanks for > > the advice everyone). > [.

Re: replacing libreadline5-dev build dependency with libreadline-dev

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 04:41:43PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 13 2009, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > > > Both libreadline-dev (>= 6.0) and libreadline6-dev are now available > > >

Re: Bug#550860: ITP: gnaughty -- downloader for adult content

2009-10-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 05:58:01PM +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: > Michal Čihař wrote: > > > * Package name: gnaughty > > Version : 1.2.0 > > Upstream Author : Troy McClure > > * URL : http://gnaughty.sourceforge.net/ > > * License : GPL > > Programming Lang:

Re: Bug#550860: ITP: gnaughty -- downloader for adult content

2009-10-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 05:18:33PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:13:10 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:57:19 -0400, James Vega wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Michael Gilbert > > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:27:25 +0200, Yv

Re: Bug#550860: ITP: gnaughty -- downloader for adult content

2009-10-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:46:48AM +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Russ Allbery schrieb: > >> Please move this whole discussion to debian-legal now. > > > > No. debian-legal is the place for license nit-picking, which isn't what > > this discus

Re: Bug#551210: ITP: blame -- display the last modification for each line in an RCS file

2009-10-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 08:23:34AM -0700, Andrew Pollock wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Andrew Pollock > > * Package name: blame > Version : 1.3.1 > Upstream Author : Michael Chapman > * URL : http://blame.sourceforge.net/ > * License : G

Re: Can not install both "brasero" and "lvm2"

2009-10-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 02:59:43AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 08:36 +0800, John Wong wrote: > > I want install both "braseor" and "lvm2", but when i install "braseor", > > apt-get must remove "lvm2". > > whan i "apt-get install brasero" > > > > The following extra packages

Re: Something like Pre-Depends for Suggests

2009-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 04:37:03PM +0200, Michal Čihař wrote: > Hi > > I think this problem is common to more packages, but I hit this at > phpMyAdmin. The problem is that it Suggests mysql-server because it can > also work with remote server. In the same time it uses dbconfig-common > to configur

Bug#551992: general: stopping squeeze chroot shuts system

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:04:02PM +0200, mar...@grachtwal.nu wrote: > >> In a lenny chroot, on the same system, rc6.d/S90reboot calls 'reboot -d > >> -f > >> i' and that works like I'd expect; the chroot is stopped and the system > >> keeps on running. > >> In the squeeze chroot we have rc6.d/K09r

Assumptions about buildd filesystems

2009-10-24 Thread Mike Hommey
Hi, Is is safe to assume buildds filesystems (at least the ones where builds are done) are all able to cope with 2TB (sparse) files, which is the maximum that ext3 can handle on standard setups ? Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscr

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-10-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 02:57:35PM +, Simon McVittie wrote: > > Some examples of tags I consider reasonable to auto-reject, because they > should be easy to fix (but many of them should be bug reports anyway): > - binary-file-compressed-with-upx > - copyright-lists-upstream-authors-wit

Re: Cross compiler ITP (armel)

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 12:25:16PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > You can disagree all you like, but I believe that the FTP team will > > currently reject any new packages that use source code from their build- > > dependencies. It would likely be a waste of Hector's tim

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:30:37PM +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > Manoj Srivastava writes: > > > As I mentioned on IRC, look at trac. The trick is put configuration > > files in /etc/munin/, and symlink it back into /var/lib/munin if munin > > needs that. > > All munin needs is a place t

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 02:27:16PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:30:37PM +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > > Manoj Srivastava writes: > > > > > As I mentioned on IRC, look at trac. The trick is put configuration > > > files in /etc

Re: binutils-gold and symbols files

2009-11-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 12:44:31AM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > As I received a couple of bug reports today about packages FTBFS, I installed > binutils-gold and tried to compile a few of my packages with it. > > What I noticed is, that every package with symbols file, produced a lintian > error,

Re: xulrunner, poppler, gnome and gupnp transitions

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:48:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Hi > > Currently there are 4 rather big transitions going on, none of which is > ready to transition. Following are the things that currently are an > issue or that show why the 4 transitions are coupled: > > * xulrunner: > - iceweasel

Re: xulrunner, poppler, gnome and gupnp transitions

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:53:18PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:48:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > Hi > > > > Currently there are 4 rather big transitions going on, none of which is > > ready to transition. Following are the things that cu

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:12:07AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > I know there may be technical arguments that "people shouldn't be using > user agent like that." But the reality is that they are, and we have a > serious usability problem because we change user agent. There's no > reason that we'd

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 06:00:35PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:12:07AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > I know there may be technical arguments that "people shouldn't be using > > user agent like that." But the reality is that they are, and w

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 02:19:40PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > A constructive technical approach to this problem might be to get > chromium into Debian. Its UA claims to be Mozilla, AppleWebKit, Chrome, > and Safari, all of which have big enough market shares that websites > tend to "support" them.

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 07:25:55AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Paul Wise: > > > Probably the best solution is to get all the web browsers out there > > (especially Firefox) to drop the User-Agent HTTP header and not send > > it to web servers. It is abused way too often by web applications an

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 06:51:16AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > After all, what does prevent us to just put "Firefox" back in the > default User-Agent? We'll see if some Mozilla person raises an RC bug > and then we would talk..:-)...That would be the pragmatic approach. Another pragmatic app

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:22:38AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Is there a particular browser that you would advocate replacing iceweasel > with as the default browser in Debian? If Debian is going to switch to > another browser as the default, which also provides an engine compatible > with fir

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:12:07AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The fact that Iceweasel does not behave like Firefox in some important > areas has been bothering me more and more of late. Iceweasel breaks > many, many web apps by virtue of not using the Firefox user-agent > strin

Re: xulrunner, poppler, gnome and gupnp transitions

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:48:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Hi > > Currently there are 4 rather big transitions going on, none of which is > ready to transition. Following are the things that currently are an > issue or that show why the 4 transitions are coupled: > > * xulrunner: > - iceweasel

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:42:48PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:57:22AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Give me a UA string that: > > > And I will change it before squeeze freeze. > > FWIW, thanks a lot for this choice. > > I underst

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 08:54:41AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:12:07AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> The fact that Iceweasel does not behave like Firefox in some important > >>

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:23:10AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > Let me suggest adding "(like Firefox/3.5)", but I'm not sure how the > > crappy sites parsing the version number will deal with the closing > > parenthesis. > > I would not expect that to achieve the same level of compatibility. Th

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:29:39PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:23:10AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > Let me suggest adding "(like Firefox/3.5)", but I'm not sure how the > > > crappy sites parsing the version number will dea

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:10:39AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > I was going to test Epiphany on sid, but I couldn't since it's using > Webkit instead of Gecko here, and thus a very different user-agent. Epiphany never had a Firefox string in Debian. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-deve

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:43:19AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > John Goerzen wrote: > > My suggestion is this: > > > > Take the default Firefox user agent. > > > > Where you see Firefox/x.y.z, change it to: > > > > Firefox/x.y.z Iceweasel/x.y.z > > > > And that will accomplish everything need

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:05:47PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:45:04PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:43:19AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > John Goerzen wrote: > > > > Firefox/x.y.z Iceweasel/x.y.

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:33:42PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Mike Hommey (10/11/2009): > > Let me suggest adding "(like Firefox/3.5)", but I'm not sure how the > > crappy sites parsing the version number will deal with the closing > > parenthesis. >

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:26:15PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:43:19AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > >> John Goerzen wrote: > >>> My suggestion is this: > >>> > >>> Take the default Firef

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 07:37:56AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Mike Hommey (m...@glandium.org): > > > - Adding Firefox to Camino: > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384721 > > Where we can see that dbaron is against it. > > IMHO, with

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:39:38AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 08:30, Adam Majer wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 02:58:19PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 26 2009, Adam Majer wrote: > >> > Or here's a radical idea - allow source only uploads of packages.

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:48:13AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Michal Čihař wrote: > > Hi > > > > Dne Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:39:38 +0100 > > Sandro Tosi napsal(a): > > > >> As a personal note, as one of those unlucky people with a very slow > >> network connection: if binary packages built by maintai

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:52:12AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > You don't have to start over if the upload did not fail in the middle of > a file, but failed right after a file. It may seem unlikely, but I've > had these failures way more often than failures in the middle of a file. > > So if it did

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:54:38AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Sandro Tosi wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:42, Michal Čihař wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> Dne Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:39:38 +0100 > >> Sandro Tosi napsal(a): > >> > >>> As a personal note, as one of those unlucky people with a very slow >

Re: GR proposal: the AGPL does not meet the DFSG (take 2)

2009-11-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:45:25PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > Again, this is not the language that the AGPL uses. It requires that > "your modified version must prominently offer all users interacting with > it remotely through a computer network" the source. Notice the text > "your modifie

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 01:51:41PM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 09:58 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > I actually never experienced problems that were not due to my DSL > > connection, which means they can happen at any time. In which case I'd > &

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:38:25PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:45:04PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:43:19AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > John Goerzen wrote: > > > > My suggestion is this: > > > &

Re: xulrunner, poppler, gnome and gupnp transitions

2009-11-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:48:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Hi > > Currently there are 4 rather big transitions going on, none of which is > ready to transition. Following are the things that currently are an > issue or that show why the 4 transitions are coupled: > > * xulrunner: Sorry, I dela

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 04:15:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Tracking arch all packages > -- > #246992 asked us to not delete arch all packages before the > corresponding (if any) arch any packages are available for all > architectures. Example: whenever a new source pa

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:48:53AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11936 March 1977, Charles Plessy wrote: > > >> source-only uploads > > I am curious on how the rebuild of the architecture-independant packages > > happens. > > That depends on what we get out with in the end. > Probably all buil

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:16:41PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2009-11-18, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > I am a bit confused with respect to how buildd autosigning is required > > for this. It makes it sound somehow like it would affect porter binary > > Basicalyl, the turnaround time is too lon

Re: Anjal package needs RPATH, which is considered an error

2009-11-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:17:57PM +0800, Li, Yan wrote: > Dear List, > > I'm facing an issue when packaging the Anjal [1] mail client for > Debian. > > Anjal is another GUI front-end for Evolution designed for small form > factor devices. So naturally Anjal depends upon many .so libraries in > t

Re: nexuiz-data does not fit on a single CD

2009-11-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:33:29PM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:23 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > Ack. People which use computers which did not came with a DVD reader built > > in > > are probably not able to play nexuiz anyway as it needs a pretty fastCPU and >

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:51:51PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Currently a package without a patch system needs heavy modifications in > debian/rules to setup the patch system. So when you want to add a patch in > debian/patches and not in the .diff.gz, you have to choose a patch system > in pl

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:48:14AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Because you want the patch to be clearly identified and to carry its > meta-information. Or because maybe you're applying 2 separate patches in > the same NMU upload. "Fixing cosmetic issues or changing the packaging style in NMUs

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:30:45AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:48:14AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > Because you want the patch to be clearly identified and to carry its > > > meta-informati

Re: Applied-Upstream field for Patch Tagging Guidelines (DEP-3)

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:18:37AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Benjamin Drung writes: > > > Hi, > > > > When a new upstream version is released, I have to check all patches if > > they were accepted by upstream or not. I have to check each patch if I > > can drop it. It would make packag

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:30:00AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Well, they can drop the patch in debian/patches, and add it to > > > the end of debian/patches/series. If quilt is installed, it should > > > work as dpkg-source will use quilt

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:10:51AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > * Raphael Hertzog [2009-11-23 09:50:15 CET]: > > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > > Actually, I feel rather to convert my packages to 3.0 (native) + quilt. > > > The way quilt is implied in 3.0 (quilt) doesn't seem to

Re: Unversioned .so file in /usr/lib vs dh_makeshlibs vs postinst-must-call-ldconfig

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:05:28PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 23 novembre 2009 à 14:00 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko a > écrit : > > > > I found that adding missing call to dh_makeshlibs does not fix the > > > > issue, because package installs a private shared library to > > > > /usr

Re: Tool suggestions for new formats?

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 03:43:42AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 17:28:39 -0800, Rodrigo Gallardo wrote: > > Part of my usual workflow with the 1.0 format is to do an interdiff on > > the .diff.gz from the previous version to the one I intend to upload, > > to check t

Re: gnat-4.4 is blocking most big transitions atm

2009-11-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Hi > > gnat-4.4 FTBFS on mipsel which is blocking gcc-defaults from migrating > to testing which is blocking at least the poppler and gnome related > transitions. xulrunner was reuploaded again and needs to be built > everywhere first be

Re: where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?

2009-12-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:38:58PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Brian May wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:52:44AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > Considering that any non-trivial server needs to send email out, having > > > a working FQDN configured is not "obsolete". > > > > I beli

Re: GDM, getty and VTs

2009-12-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:53:27PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: > On 12/27/2009 12:21 AM, Gaijin wrote: > Ice > >Weasel won't run many web pages as well as it does in Windows Firefox, > >including my Linksys router's configuration page, > > > Iceweasel will run everything Firefox on Windows will,

Re: quilt 3.0 source format and dpkg-source/dpkg-buildpackage

2009-12-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:40:34PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Raphael Geissert writes: > > > 3.0 would be friendlier if it would only *not* automatically apply the > > patches when extracting the source. But then there's not much point for > > dpkg to know about patches. > > I do think the pro

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 02:30:46AM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 11:45:32AM +, Sebastian Heinlein wrote: > > You have also to take a look how efficient a way is. Finding a menu entry > > in a > > long list is quite ineffcient (Fitts' law). Compare

Re: x86 buildd for experimental ?

2007-01-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:12:09AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > As a lot of gnome 2.16 currently in experimental has been uploaded for > > amd64, there's a lot of it not built

Re: x86 buildd for experimental ?

2007-01-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 12:18:48AM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue Jan 23, 2007 at 20:51:27 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:12:09AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]>

Re: Suggesting new method to handle dpkg diversions

2007-01-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 01:20:47AM -0600, Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [keeping debian-devel CC, this seems to still be relevant] > > [Goswin von Brederlow] > > What if each package could list all its current diversions in > > DEBIAN/diverions (i.e. in the control.tar.gz)? Upon

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 12:48:47PM -0500, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 15:15 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > For programming languages, I prefer the one that makes programmers > > easily understand all code written by others. For desktop environments, > > I pr

Re: Accepted linux-modules-di-amd64-2.6 1.03 (source amd64)

2007-01-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 06:22:20AM +0900, Michael(tm) Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Frans, > > /* my attempts at answering a few of your questions, based on my own */ > /* limited experience trying to figure out specs written in Japanese */ > > Files: > > 373d03c1c9c91fa5926da35b0580b36

Re: x86 buildd for experimental ?

2007-02-04 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 10:06:05AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 12:18:48AM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On T

Re: x86 buildd for experimental ?

2007-02-04 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 09:43:33AM +0100, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 10:06:05AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 200

Re: Bug#409367: ITP: iceape-locales -- language packs for Iceape

2007-02-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 10:20:06PM +0100, Daniel Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Luberda wrote: > > Yeah, it seems we have in Debian three different ways of naming > > translation packages: > > *-l10n-* used for iceweasel and openoffice.org locales. > > *-locale-*used fo

Re: RFC: use readable $(cmd) syntax instead of unreadable `cmd`

2007-02-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 10:59:09AM +0200, Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le't call this "wishlist" if we need to be pedantic. I would still > call this a bug from a QA perspective. Quality is more than "valid > syntax". `` vs $(), QA ? OMFFSM Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PR

Re: Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts

2007-02-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:40:31PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:54:56 -0600, Jon Marler > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > I have a question ... How do I keep my Debian maintainer status if I > > miss the vote? Is there a website I can log in to "r

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