Re: Release-critical Bugreport for October 22, 2004

2004-10-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:51:45AM -0700, Joe Buck wrote: > > For people who care about getting sarge out, it's not useful to put out > a report listing 726 bugs, only 150 of which matter, in a form that > makes it rather difficult to cleanly extract only the 150 that matter. > How about putting o

Re: Ubuntu discussion at planet.debian.org

2004-10-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 01:36:16AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 06:48:31AM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote: > > There are package that never enter testing and nobody notice because > > everyone use unstable (sometimes because of buggy dependencies). > > This isn't true: http://

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for October 22, 2004

2004-10-28 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 05:41:42PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > Could the script that generates the RC bug list be modified to show two > additional numbers for each bug: first, how old it is (in days), and > second, how old (in days) is the last message posted to the bug? > > This w

Re: Drop testing

2004-10-28 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 02:03:31AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Trivial analysis: () > The release managers have been putting some effort into (a)(1) over the > past year, and there's four of them now instead of just one. How much effort > has the project been putting into the other factors?

Re: NMU on sysklogd

2004-10-29 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 11:56:46AM +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote: > In fact, I dug into the problem, and found that the initscript > (/etc/cron.daily/sysklogd) had a 'reload-or-restart' argument, which is > used by the cronjob and does not always work (in my case, on several > machines, never) nor do

Re: NMU on sysklogd

2004-10-29 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 03:50:31PM +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote: > On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 13:28 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > I haven't yet contacted Joey, however, since I'm still considering this > > option and how to do it best. One option, for e

Re: xephem?

2004-11-02 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 08:02:56AM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > This is true, see http://bugs.debian.org/270695 for a log of what > happened. The reason is that the (previous) maintainer doesn't have the > time to maintain this package. The real reason is that xephem provides non-free

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
(...) > response 3: _is_ it the job of debian developers to dictate the minimum > acceptable security level? yes, it is. But we have to weight in the needs of our users. We want, after all, our operating system to be used in a large set of environments and some of those might break when enabli

Modutils and sysklogd experimental packages available

2004-11-13 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
Well, there seems to be a lot of DD asking others to test experimental packages out there, so I just might as well do the same. I recently tried to do some QA with some base packages that have an outstanding list of open bugs (some of which are quite easy to fix, others which are not that easy

Re: Bug#282409: ITP: mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-br -- Firefox Localization Package to Brazilian Portuguese.

2004-12-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 07:28:39AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > Can you indeed give us here the list of mozilla-firefox-locale-xx > > > packages your package currently generates? > > > > For the moment: (..) There is no es_ES. I believe there were mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es packages a

Dummy packages review for the Release Notes and possible mass bug filing

2004-12-15 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
[ Rob Bradford, you're in CC: since I don't know if you read d-d and just in case you miss this :-) ] I've been reviewing for the Release Notes the packages in sid that are provided for upgrade purposes only (since we did in the past for woody's [1]). The goal is to provide a list in the Release

Re: removing in postrm rc*.d symlinks that I did not create

2004-12-16 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 02:11:06AM +0100, Nicolas Boullis wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 04:33:49PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > A technique that I've used in packages with this issue is to install the > > rc*.d symlinks by default, but also have the init script check a file in >

Re: Which group to use for system users (adduser bug #290623)

2005-02-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 10:03:18AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > Hi, > > I am asking for discussion about bug #290623. The bug basically says > that it is a bad idea to generate system accounts with primary group > "nogroup", which I feel is a valid report. (...) If it's a system user, I would say

Please help test Snort 2.3.0 (experimental) packages

2005-02-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
Hi everyone, I've recently uploaded (to experimental only) new Snort 2.3.0 packages (based on the release made by the Snort team last January 25th). One of the main reasons I've uploaded this to experimental (and not sid) is that I've introduced /etc/default/snort and made /etc/snort/snort.comm

Re: Please help test Snort 2.3.0 (experimental) packages

2005-02-09 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 12:24:55PM -0500, Ed Shornock wrote: > > Does this include snort-pgsql? I don't see for experimental (unless > the mirrors haven't all been updated yet). I do see snort and > snort-mysql though... Snort-pgsql was uploaded too, it's listed in packages.debian.org so your m

Re: Moria, as in the Author of

2005-02-15 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:23:19PM +0430, Robert Koeneke wrote: > > Moria is a game I wrote some 20 years ago. Hard to believe anyone would > still be playing it. Good software (and concepts) never dies. If you google for "Moria variant" you will actually see that not only people are still play

Re: Please help test Snort 2.3.0 (experimental) packages

2005-02-18 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 08:48:20AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've recently uploaded (to experimental only) new Snort 2.3.0 packages > (based on the release made by the Snort team last January 25th). One of the > main reasons I

Re: Automatic building of (parts of) the archive

2005-02-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 06:43:41PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Hi, > > in order to test whether packages that build-depend on tetex can still > be built with the upcoming version 3.0, I would like to automatically > build as many of these packages. I know where I can read about setting > up a bu

(Obsolete) Packages I will ask to be removed from the archive

2005-03-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
I'm considering asking ftp maintainers to remove from the archive the following software/documentation I maintain. Actually, I haven't done any maintenance tasks in most of these for months, in many cases upstream is dead and the userbase is really low (or inexistant). Feel free to speak up if

Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns))

2005-03-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 07:52:23AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > IMO, this actually _proves_ the case that ftpmaster is one of the > biggest problems that Debian has at the moment, now that the DAM > problem has been solved elegantly and efficiently. Wrong, the BIGGEST problem is that we have so m

Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns))

2005-03-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
(Note: In order for this thread to prove useful I'm going to adhere to aj's ObBug: rule [0]. This will also probably limit my answers somewhat and prevent me from answering every post] On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 12:05:32PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: > What's the purpose of NEW then? Why are package

Cron-standard package to replace current tasks in 'cron'

2005-03-09 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
Hi there, A while back I did a little bit of hacking and put together a package with "standard" cron tasks. These tasks includes: - backup stuff the cron package currently backups - some other simple backups (the 'backup-simple' program and manpage are included) - common cron-related packages th

Re: Cron-standard package to replace current tasks in 'cron'

2005-03-09 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 04:00:49PM +0100, David Schmitt wrote: > Why {c,sh}ouldn't they be implemented as cron.daily scripts in the respective > packages? They are already are, please review the (simple) package. For some of the packages that provide them (like systat) the tasks are pulled in fr

Re: ports.debian.org (Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting)

2005-03-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 03:42:54PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 03:31:30PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: > > I'd propose to use a less "discriminating" name for the scc archive. > > What about ports.debian.org (which coincidentally already exists and > > http-wise poi

Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-16 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:55:05PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > (what to do when correcting typos in debconf templatesand want to > avoid extra work to translators) > > Quoting Adeodato Simó ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > * Christian Perrier [Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:24:57 +0100]: > > > > > Indeed,

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-01 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 05:33:11PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Roberto C. Sanchez] > > Is there a way to not allow changelog entries to automatically close > > bugs assigned to other packages? > > This has been suggested before; the standard counterargument is "what > about closing an ITP?

Re: awstats configuration and installation

2005-12-06 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 01:29:05PM +, kevin bailey wrote: > hi, > > after installing awstats package on sarge it took a bit of figuring out how > to configure it. > > here are my notes which may help someone or mey help the awstats package > maintainer. It looks like this would make more sen

Re: congratulations to our ftp-master team

2005-12-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:40:09AM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 11:25:03AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: > > I'd like to congratulate our ftp-master team on their ability to timely > > process packages progressing through the NEW queue. > > > >

Re: congratulations to our ftp-master team

2005-12-15 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 11:08:52AM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > But it is not doing a great job with processing a few old uploads. I > > consider it a problem that no decision have been taken on the few > > really old uploads (xvidcap, rte, mplayer). > > One

Re: documentation types

2006-02-16 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:54:09PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Thus the thing to do is to provide HTML. I disagree, the thing to do is to provide HTML *and* an easy to print format, that is PS or PDF. > It would be nice to be able to ship, say, HTML and SGML, and then have a > quick and easy w

Re: documentation types

2006-02-16 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 04:43:11PM +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Ok, then you choose HTML and PDF. And the next user asks why he cannot get it > in the format provided by docbook2xyz (substitute xyz with any possible > value). The user always has the *source* package available to do as he pleas

Re: documentation types

2006-02-16 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 11:03:37PM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 10:04:25AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Pe?a > wrote: > > > Moreover, I know of *no* -doc packages that provide SGML format so there > > is not that much experience (or tools) on how to automatically do wh

Re: Draft DDP policy (was: documentation types)

2006-02-17 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:58:12AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Policy says to ship HTML, else I wouldn't. > > > > Policy is somewhat out of date with respect to documentation. There's >

Re: documentation types

2006-02-17 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 11:47:14AM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 12:57:54AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Pe?a > wrote: > > > > And if the administrators choice is to not want any automatically created > > > formats, he may use a docbook program that displays it from th

Re: documentation types

2006-02-17 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 07:34:14AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > pe, 2006-02-17 kello 01:10 +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > kirjoitti: > > Docbook/XML or SGML conversion to HTML is easy. Proper PS / PDF generation > > is > > not that easy (depends on toolchain

Re: documentation types

2006-02-17 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 04:32:51PM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: > > And I told you that you're wrong. There is _zero_ reference to > documentation packages, doc-base, install-docs or anything else in the > quote you replied to. It only spoke about _displaying_ the > documentation. The thread is abo

Re: ITP: freebsd-manpages -- Manual pages for a GNU/kFreeBSD system

2006-02-18 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 11:55:22PM +0100, Guerkan Senguen wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: freebsd-manpages > Version : 6.0 > Upstream Author : The FreeBSD Project > * URL : > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/6.0-RELEASE/ma

Re: Bug#353917: ITP: lanmap -- lanmap sits quietly on a network and builds a picture of what it sees.

2006-02-21 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 01:22:57PM -0800, Sebastien Delafond wrote: > * Package name: lanmap > Version : 0.1 > Upstream Author : Ryan Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://parseerror.com/lanmap/ > * License : GPL > Description : lanmap sits quietly on

Re: Bug#353917: ITP: lanmap -- lanmap sits quietly on a network and builds a picture of what it sees.

2006-02-23 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:11:40PM -0800, Sebastien Delafond wrote: > > Should the similarities between PADS and lanmap prevent the latter > from being packaged for Debian ? I understand they both rely on Of course not! > passive network monitoring to produce info, but I still don't see that > a

Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)

2006-02-28 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 07:03:31AM -0600, Cord Beermann wrote: > > If you get spam via our lists, BOUNCE[1] it to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] The advantage of posting it here is that it can be used as a measure of how much spam does posting to a debian mailing attracts, spammers will probably send some

Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)

2006-03-01 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 02:13:51AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:47:41 +0100]: > > > Is it OK if we, mutt users, use this? > > Why not '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'? ('b' does (B)ounce > in the default

Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)

2006-03-02 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 07:33:04AM -0600, Cord Beermann wrote: > it's not ok to bounce us spam from years ago, this address is another > feedback-loop to enhace our filters, it's useless to get old[1] spam > there. Well, I thought it would be useful to a) have spam mails from the mailing list a

Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)

2006-03-03 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 05:44:51AM -0600, Cord Beermann wrote: > The button is good for pointing out where we should remove something. Well. I have reported "through the button" in the past months spam for three different mailing lists (debian-doc, debian-l10n-spanish, and debian-devel-spanish) a

Re: Announcing changes in su

2006-03-04 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 02:06:45AM +0100, Nicolas François wrote: > Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > samhain-2.0.10a/init/samhain.start.in That (upstream) code is not used in the Debian package (the init script used is samhain-2.0.10a/debian/samhain.init Regards Jav

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 01:00:19PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > I don't know how if there is any free software for this purpose, Yes, there is. Take a look at Squidguard. > however, since keeping an up-to-date database of safe/unsafe sites is a > lot of work and it might need to be done comme

Re: library packaging doc...

2005-01-28 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 02:54:07AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > I was kind of waiting for inclusion into the developers reference, > but the text format is different. > > libpkg-guide is written in docbook XML while > developers reference is written in DebianDoc SGML. Could you please conside

Re: library packaging doc...

2005-01-28 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 11:03:23PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > I need three things > > 1. Is result of DDP packaged in Debian as a batch? No (but could be done :-) > 2. does it support docbook sgml/xml? CVS supports anything, automatic builds do support Docbook (you have sample Xml Makefile

Re: Security work in Debian (Was: Relaxing testing requirements)

2005-03-19 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 07:03:07PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > There are two security teams in effect now. The debian/stable team, > working to make sure the stable release of debian get security fixes > as soon as possible. They get security warnings before the issues > become public kno

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 07:29:24PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Um, so these patches, are they bugfixes? Not necessarily, many of Ubuntu patches are just enhancements that _could_ be made in Debian. See for example http://bugs.debian.org/246935, they might or might not have the corres

Re: HOWTO Help (was: Debian DPL Debate Comments)

2005-03-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 10:25:51PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 22:08, Alexander Schmehl wrote: (...) > > AFAIK we don't have a good "What you can do to help us" documentation > > (please correct me, if I am wrong). No, we don't have one. > > How about http://www.debian.org

Re: Should Debian use lsb init-functions?

2005-03-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 10:02:51AM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > > Changes: > > lsb (2.0-6) unstable; urgency=low > > . > >* Create lsb package in binary-indep step. (Closes: #297788) > >* Merge /lib/lsb/init-functions from Ubuntu. > >* Split /lib/lsb/init-functions into arch-all lsb-

Re: Bug#301700: ITP: update-manager -- a GNOME application that manages apt updates

2005-03-28 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 10:08:51AM -0300, Andre Filipe de Assuncao e Brito wrote: > >Sorry, 404 here. > Yes. Recently, Michiel has changed his website, and the update-manager > website has go down, but I talk to him and he'll put on the website > more quickly possible. Digging through Google I'

Re: Should Debian use lsb init-functions?

2005-03-28 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 02:24:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 01:46:53AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > wrote: > > - there is no logging of init scripts (#169600) startup, so it's difficult > > to determine (post-boot) if all the syste

Re: anonymous dupload stopped working

2005-04-05 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 09:04:20PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ti, 2005-04-05 kello 13:12 -0400, Adam C Powell IV kirjoitti: > > Interesting... I just installed and tried dput, and everything seems to > > work fine. So dupload is broken. > > Data point: I used dupload to anonymous-ftp-master

Warning: Some CVS repos are broken (was Re: gluck available again / filesystem shaked)

2005-04-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 07:06:23PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: [ ... lots of stuff ... ] Thanks Joey for your dedication, it has become somewhat of a tradition that some Debian server breaks before the release (does it mean we are releasing this weekend?) :-) > The following CVS repositories

Re: etch release target: SELinux?? (was: Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting)

2005-04-11 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 11:50:23PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > For people who don't use SE Linux the support in those programs will only > take > a few K of disk space and will not give a performance overhead. Given the fact that the current standard installation installs both gcc, gdb and

Re: Bug#307570: please provide releasenotes (Re: Release update: editorial changes to the testing propagation scripts)

2005-05-04 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 01:23:25AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > This might be related to the fact the they're somewhat hidden, at least > to ./google "sarge releasenotes" - > http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/releasenotes isn't helpful atm either. Why not? Isn't http://www.debian.org/r

Re: sarge upgrade issue. perl 5.6->5.8 and libdb4

2005-05-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 06:16:40PM -0600, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: > I just ran through a woody-sarge update, and (temporarilly) lost a > number of perl databases that an unpackaged app had created. Took me > quite a while to figure out exactly what happened, more time than a user > should normally b

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-03 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: (..) > 3 Future > (..) > * update the Debian Java FAQ; Can you please provide the information in this mail as a patch to the Debian Java FAQ? I would like to see that updated and have offered the document to the debian-java tea

And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-06 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
Ok, so sarge has been released! We should all thank the Release Team for their hard work in putting this major release together. But... how about we start discussing about what major release goals we want to set for Etch? So, without further delay, here's my "Etch-wishlist", it's biased on some o

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:57:50PM -0400, Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: > My impression was that firewall setting is generally a messy business, > because there's too many packages that mess with it, usually assuming > they're the only ones who touch it. This was, I think part of the > reason why /

Why apt-get is not a proper software search engine (was Re: And now for something completely different... etch!)

2005-06-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
> > - Better package search mechanism (tags?) allowing free text search > > in package management interfaces: "I want a program that does X" > > Doesn't 'apt-cache search X' do exactly that? [ Here's the in-depth answer from my POV ] Think of a *end* user that wants to find the most popular mu

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:33:02AM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > If we're gonna change this, could we please use the LSB definition [1]? > > [1] > http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_2.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/runlevels.html Sure, that's my goal, but my notes were tak

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:34:26PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Nobody. However, you're assuming that xdm et al will keep trying to > start an X server, even if it fails. Luckily, the respective initscripts > are far more clever than that. I've had a laptop that froze because of X starting u

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 02:17:46PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Is that not the purpose of single user mode or run level 1? Pray tell me how can run level 1 be enough to solve the problem I described if you need to have networking capabitilies to: a) find a solution to your plight throu

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:43:24PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > Yes, most people with Debian experience could work around this but > > it's way beyond most desktop users that don't know what init.d is. > > These people probably won't be able to operate the console anyway, so > a non-X startup i

Re: Debian 3.1r0 CD/DVD image problem

2005-06-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:03:50PM -0400, Anonymous wrote: > > >>Can't the remainder of the third DVD be filled up with multimedia > >>propoganda files or other fluff? > > > >Or 3vil planz for world domination? > If all elve fails fill it up with pr0n. ;) We already have hot-babe there, maybe add

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 10:47:00AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > What, 239 packages out of some 16000 total? What exactly is > the problem? This is a miniscule number, and the disk requirements > for a dummy package is negligible. Now, novice users can possibly be (...) I guess you

"How to recognise different ETCH wishlists from quite a long way away" (revised)

2005-07-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
Well, since the thread I started has calmed down and since there's a lot of people at HEL [1] with (probably) a lot of spare time in their hands that would be better spent hacking than in the sauna here's my (revised) wishlist for Etch. I've added additional items pointed out in the thread (inc

Re: "How to recognise different ETCH wishlists from quite a long way away" (revised)

2005-07-11 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 08:25:11AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > This is a huge list, with probably 0 chances of getting > accomplished. How about this: remove every single item from the list, > and only add items when there are people who sign up to be responsible > for the work inv

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 12:46:44AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > netbase: > critical network configuration. > It has some ancient cruft like /etc/services (which does more ill > than good), but /etc/init.d/networking is not something one wants to > skip. Why do you b

Re: Proposal: searchable d.o/security/

2006-08-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:02:31AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > Hi, > today I searched for a specific DSA and its really pain if > you just know the package but no DSA number (correct me if I missed > something). What kind of search are you trying to do? Package to DSA? Bug to DSA? If so, it would

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > The second feature is quite cool; update-notifier uses hal to detect > that a new CD/DVD was inserted and tries to figure out whether that is > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and to > avoid mes

Ifupdown 'extra' package with network ({pre,post}) testing scripts

2006-08-15 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
I have written and collected some network testing scripts in a new 'ifupdown-extra' package which is right now available in http://people.debian.org/~jfs/ifupdown-extra This package provides additional scripts for ifupdown to test for some common problems when setting up interfaces: - interface

Re: Ifupdown 'extra' package with network ({pre,post}) testing scripts

2006-08-16 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 02:36:52PM +0200, Emanuele Rocca wrote: > Hello Javier, Hi there. > > This package provides additional scripts for ifupdown to test for some > > common > > problems when setting up interfaces: > > > > - interfaces without a link (admin can have that condition abort

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-31 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 10:29:46AM -0400, Jim Crilly wrote: > On 08/15/06 09:49:54AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > Hello, > > This seems to be totally overengineered. Having MTA a provide sendmail > > which uses MTA b for remote deliveries is no common usage scenario on > > which any effort sho

Re: Manpages in language-specific packages

2006-09-13 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 12:46:19PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Hi, > > I'm adopting liblingua-es-numeros-perl, a Perl module for translating > numbers into their Spanish string representation. One of the first > things I noticed is that the manpage is completely (and only) written > in Spanish. So

Re: transitioning config files between two packages

2006-09-13 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 05:21:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > After an upgrade and answering all of the conffile prompts, does > /var/lib/dpkg/info/nagios-plugins.conffiles still exist and reference these > files? Depending on what dpkg is really doing here, it may well be possible > to handle

Re: Why are all packages getting so much bigger?

2006-09-24 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 02:30:36PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > I'm guessing translations. They eat up space really fast. > Is there a way to compare packages after localepurge runs? I would bet on translations and documentation. Maybe it could be possible to automate that analysis and see wh

Re: Debian Women Wiki (was: No Config-Files state even though postrm purge failed while purging an installed package?)

2006-10-02 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 10:32:23AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > >May I ask why information this important is not on the main Debian > >wiki, wiki.debian.org? > > It was born in the Debian Women wiki, because I felt much more > comfortable doing this documenting process inside the Debian Wom

Re: Debian Women Wiki (was: No Config-Files state even though postrm purge failed while purging an installed package?)

2006-10-03 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 10:54:02AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > If you think they are useful, by all means go ahead and put them > somewhere else. It's free documentation, you can do with it whatever > you like. > > I do not feel that it is my duty to put these diagrams in the main > Debia

Re: apt-findremovable v0.4

2006-10-03 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 11:24:14PM +0200, Jan Kechel wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> have fun trying it. > > > > Thanks. Is a single perl script worth packaging, though? > > since v0.4 its even seems to be working correctly :) > http://prevalent-digest.de/apt-findremovable/ > > I guess that's

debian-policy: New virtual package: cron-daemon

2006-10-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
Package: debian-policy Priority: wishlist Hi all, It was suggested to me (#349170) that we should use a virtual package 'cron-service' to make it easier to people to switch between different cron implementations. Currently in Debian there are three of them available: vixie-cron, which is our cu

Re: debian-policy: New virtual package: cron-daemon

2006-10-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 09:48:01PM +0200, Clément Stenac wrote: > Hi, > > > [ Debian-specific feature ] > > - Correct execution of /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} > > Don't we support these by using entries in /etc/crontab and run-parts > for all cron systems, which would make this req

Re: Help offered

2006-10-12 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 12:00:00AM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote: > HXC wrote: > > > I would like to help with the debian.org website. I have a bachelor > > degree in communication management. Is there help needed and if so where > > do I start / who do I contact? > > A starting point could be to

Re: Orphan party, relax...

2006-10-15 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 06:38:16AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > > But now, I can stop! There will be people doing my work! And they will > > win money! They will do my translations on debian installation manual, > > on the debconf templates, they are going to close my RC bugs and other >

Re: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

2006-10-17 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 01:02:45PM +, Jason Spiro wrote: > Hi all, Hi there. > For example, when a person types newbie commands like "help" or "kde" > (which is bound to something already) or the DOS commands "del" or "ren" > (which are not), we should point them to more help. (In case anyone

Re: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

2006-10-17 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 11:48:33PM -0400, Jason Spiro wrote: > >I remember back in 2000 providing a Debian package called 'ayuda' ('help', > >in > >Spanish) developed by members of my local IEEE Student Branch. This > >package > >included just a simple shell script ('ayuda') and a number of text

Re: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

2006-10-18 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 03:57:26AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > I agree that a help command and a set of DOS-friendly aliases *should* > be enough, but since MS neutered the command.com interface a long time > ago to the point where it ceased to be useful, I don't see how having > such things

Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-20 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
I'm not sure if anybody else is seeing this but I have seen (just today) 28 spam messages sent to the BTS. I've received them because they were all sent to (at least) the 'www.debian.org' pseudo-package, and I have reported all of them in the BTS' spam interface [1] They also seem to share common

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-21 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 07:10:20PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > Hi Javier, > On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 12:05:58AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > wrote: > > > > I'm not sure if anybody else is seeing this but I have seen (just today) 28 > > spam messages sen

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-30 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 10:50:51PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > If you have an idea for a new spamassassin rule that will get a > > current spam run without triggering on non-spam, send it to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunatly, much spam is now using anti-bayes tecniques > > and is hard to catch

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-11-01 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 11:51:16PM -0700, Bruce Sass wrote: > > Decreasing the score at which we ignore messages is trivial, but it > > means increasing the number of false positives. [And because > > backscatter is bad, these will be messages which just "disappear", > > unless some (massochistic)

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-11-04 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 03:43:06PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Thu, 02 Nov 2006, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > a) for mails to -close or to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to prevent a > >spammer/malicious person from closing all the bugs or mangling > >with the B

Re: Bash /dev/tcp and /dev/udp

2006-11-23 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 02:09:33PM +0100, Jan C. Nordholz wrote: > Hi Klaus, > > > >from the bash manpage: > > /dev/tcp/host/port > > /dev/udp/host/port > > This has been discussed several times [1][2], and the outcome was every time > that this should not be a feature

Re: Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch)?

2006-11-23 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 07:22:35AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > But Hendrik Sattler is perfectly right and this knowledge has to be stored > at prominant places like: > >a) installation manual >b) apt-key.8 >c) perhaps somewhere else It is already at the "Securing Debian Manual", see

Re: Bash /dev/tcp and /dev/udp

2006-11-23 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 11:02:15PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 22:54:59 +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > > Then the manpage should be ammended and those things removed. It does not > > make sense to disable things and ship a manpage

Re: Bug#398793: [Adduser-devel] Bug#398793: adduser: Non system wide readable (home) directories should not be 751

2006-11-24 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 01:04:31PM +, Stephen Gran wrote: > > As others have pointed out, umask is probably the correct way to make > sure that your files are not world readable. This could trivially be > added to /etc/profile or something. Yes, there are multiple ways to change Debian's def

Re: Ifupdown 'extra' package with network ({pre,post}) testing scripts

2006-11-27 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 07:41:54PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > I have written and collected some network testing scripts in a new > 'ifupdown-extra' package which is right now available in > http://people.debian.org/~jfs/ifupdown-extra > > This

Re: localisation in system wide daemons

2006-12-21 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 07:33:20PM +0100, Nico Golde wrote: > Hi, > Adam Cécile reported #400719[0] to the fetchmail package. > > The question is wheter a system wide daemon should care > about the system wide locale configurations or not. I'd say yes, since if the daemon spits out messages (eit

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