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pretty sure they would be careful not to do that after distributions
have settled on a standard path.
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not practical. And they are didn't tested
> the aptitude's resolver, which is default for Debian now and has been proved
> to be more intelligent and coverable in the the most cases.
Also, the test seems to use apt-rpm, which forked from Debian's for some
time, if I&#x
e possibility of consensus building taking advantage of the
fact that he maintains the Python interpreter packages (and the fact
that he is able to push things 100% his way into Ubuntu).
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> Description : lightweight Linux text file and man page viewer
Is it really Linux-specific?
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> >
> > Thanks,
> >
>
> Okay, that's a good one. POSIX instead of Linux?
How about lightweight text file and man page viewer, only? =)
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last time FTP masters REJECTed a package because of that,
> I spent more than an hour to get the list right, for a package that took
> only a few minutes to update. I can hardly imagine how fun it must be
> for a big package.
FWIW, ~3 hours of intensive work on webkit last time I did i
s are references to sections in the constitution).
>
> PROPOSAL END
Seconded.
Should this be proposed as a patch for the constitution?
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at it runs in textmode and does not provide any GUI whatsoever. About
> Infocom and interactive fiction in general, see the "New to IF" section
> at http://www.ifarchive.org.
I'd remove the sentence about where it has been successfully compiled.
It doesn't really add much
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 00:54 +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> P.S. Please do not use a space before "?" (or "!", ":", ";", etc.) in
> English strings; it's incorrect.
The same goes for portuguese, by the way. =)
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> you
> should blame it on the software use to view the files.
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urn unusable both turbogears2 *and* turbogears 1 (which was
> working in Lenny).
This is the thing that replaces python-dispatch (ruledispatch source
package), by the way. You may want to get rid of that one soonish (as
in, ASAP).
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d for each one actually do exist.
That does not solve the problem, but makes it pretty easy to solve.
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claim that nobody else should engage in that action. Not even under
> some misguided notion of "equality".
Just to finish the email... yes, you cannot force people into taking
actions, even more in a volunteer organization. This does not mean that
some universal values should not be defende
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print enter the mix? Are there any other
printing servers and clients on Debian? I know gtklp, but I guess it
uses /usr/bin/lp?
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nfiguring a printing daemon which no
application is going to use =D.
> Besides, everyone should be using CUPS anyways, right? ;-)
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things'. Maybe we just need to learn how to use a more pleasant
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> be nice to just add an append to the kernel command line to stop it from
> running...
>
> Any comments?
I like the idea. I sometimes miss an easy way to say "don't start X",
too, although most times I do want it to run.
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not easy enough for you ?
Easy enough for me in my system. It would be nice to have a standard way
of telling the system to not start X on any Debian system while keeping
X start up being the default without the need of messing
with /etc/rc?.d/ and/or /etc/inittab.
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> The package contains the dh_installzope debhelper script used
> for zope packaging tasks.
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ething, but there's much more that we should think about.
This is just the top of the iceberg.
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them and tell them what our needs and wishes are, and estabilish links
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like David Nusinow mentioned, and I have found patches that improved
debian's gksu this way at least twice. It would have been much better to
have them filed to the BTS.
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e DD's LDAP and then integrate it if the idea is
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th non-sensical, almost bizarre in
some cases, Depends.
Nevertheless, they would install pretty well on a stable system and with
some difficulty and manual intervention to fix conflicts in unstable, at
the time.
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going to have some standardized control file teaching
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h version <= ${Source-Version} of both, if
icewmcp has a greater version than both. I guess you'll need to use an
epoch if not.
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m same source as icewmcp. If he wants to
> avoid epoching he could just create dummy source package... (At least I
> think so :-).
Looks even more elegant, indeed.
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l -- aptitude will
handle this very elegantly, maybe bringing its expanded package states
to libapt itself would be nice -- rather than using this kind of trick.
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o take a look
at apache's docs from your workstation while working on a server over
ssh and there are many other examples of use for the doc case.
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package and be done with it.
I may be missing something obvious, but I don't see the point of having
a -commong package in this case.
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erf 1:1.2-3
Simply by having a Version field for the binary package on
debian/control? I'd like to see an example of that being handled, could
you be so kind as to point a concrete example so I can learn this
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> If we recommend against setting the priority to low, why bother with it?
Enabling debconf pre-seeding for customized installs is a good enough
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>
> Don't debconf questions need to be translated?
s/Don't// s/need to/can/ s/\?/\!/
It's possible to translate debconf questions and it's great that we who
have languages !english as first language have this possibility, but
we'd probably set a low
ttp://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/
> The post-reboot (debootstrap) stage asks way too many questions.
> This is a pity because the pre-reboot (d-i) stage is excellent.
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ppening as fast as ubuntunization of
Debian stuff. I enjoy having update-{manager,notifier}, even though I
use aptitude myself, it means my mother has a simpler way of updating
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ys feel free to
> upload an NMU.
>
> How many Debian maintainers think the same? I'm sure there are a
> lot of them who do not soffer of the "this is my package, go away"
> syndrome.
I do. I think there was a list being built listing the people who think
alike in thi
.
For coolness effect, here's the first time I saw a Debian CD being
detected in my desktop:
http://kov.eti.br/~kov/update-notifier-debian-cd.png
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> On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> > update-notifier is a program made by the Ubuntu guys which puts a
> > notification icon in the notif
Em Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:31:50 +0200
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> > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and
> > to avoid messing with translations,
e done by packages. Since
no packages run the 'notify-reboot-required' script today, the message
would never show up.
We could adopt the policy of only displaying the message on kernel
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nd thus should not need anything other than
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> provide security or stability improvements. The easiest way to
> make these improvements take effect is to reboot your system.
> However, you may alternatively manually restart any services
> that use these packages without a reboot."
Sounds
lutely messy for
> languages that have different declension for both. And I doubt that
> replacing Ubuntu with Debian at run time comes from Ubuntu...
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on, or a solution for dak that detects that the target
distribution changed and requests a confirmation by signed email, for
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t; shutdown from sysvinit. This approach is a no-go imho.
The alternatives system is quite mature; it suffered from leaving
dangling alternatives, but that was ages ago...
The various commands you said could be provided as slaves to
the /sbin/init alternative, which will make them be swit
es.
I guess the alternatives solution would be implemented in etch+1 only,
not needing changes to to-be-release-in-Etch packages.
I'd say let's experiment with it in experimental =).
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wn command for the running init, not for the
> chosen-for-next-boot one.
I see... maybe upstart's shutdown could be hacked to detect it is
running in a sysvinit booted system, and call its binary, if so.
Something along these lines is what module-init-tools have been doing
for sometime n
e Progeny contribution that Osamu
'utnubued':
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/users-guide.en.html
It's not very translated, granted, but it could become =D
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ould break the ABI, it would increment the soversion, so you'd have
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into Debian, why not?).
I do care about Free Software principles, but my time for working on
Debian is very limited these days, and porting my packages to an
"unsupported" architecture is not very high in my priorities list.
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I like the idea... it would be like building a knowledge base in the
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delay in having python2.4 become the default
has no good reasoning, but then again, it seems like you're just
trolling away. I even gave you two packages for you to look at as
examples...
Also, please do not CC me, I'm reading the list =).
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> me that gathering the 3p-people (perl/python/php) is really a vain
> hope...
Begin with what you have, post it to this list and let people more
knowlegeable on the other technologies help where you're missing stuff.
Might work.
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After reading your e-mail, I think that sounds like a sensible proposal.
I'll wait for some input from the involved maintainers and do the
change, if noone has a problem with it.
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ome-using application maintainers unhappy, maybe
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indow appears, in this case only.
I think gksu should not enter the session, but I still could not find a
way of doing that without adding a dependency on libgnomeui.
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It worked alright with a simple test config file:
$ cat /etc/gksu.conf
# isso à um comentÃrio
disable-grab = yes # isso à outro comentÃrio
# mais comentÃrio
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I've made a new patch I'd like you to try out:
http://people.debian.org/~kov/gksu/patches/prompt-conf-file-enhancements.diff
I hope I'll be uploading by the end of the week, after polishing this
whole thing up. Time is scarse, but I'm moving forward.
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using a diferent terminal for that ;).
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e a while before it shows up. (I
> don't know how anal the webmaster for that page is, but I know I'd give
> it a while to make sure it was a viable, active effort.)
I'd instead show it around to help it being a viable, active effort =)
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implyes an update of the upstream changelog
> file so it's worth of checking: listing changes already documented would be
> redundant and not so helpful.
It's very helpful to read nice comments on what is fixed when apt-listchanges
sends me email with the debian changelogs..
-user machine what newbies might want or what administrators
> coping with many newbies might want.
We can write stuff to support various kinds of menu layout.
That's not a great problem for now, I think. First we get a
nice, standardized menu system, then we write some configurat
ons as compatible with
the upstream's policies and code style as possible, as this
is going to increase the possibility of he taking the patch.
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'*'... I actually use this stuff when I cannot use tabs...
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yes, I guess you're right. Let's say they're bringing 'Unix-like
quality as a base' in which they build a user-friendly abstraction
layer =).
> Besides, I really doubt that even one tenth of the Debian developers
> would be happy to switch ;-)
Yes =).
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user logs in. The greeter will
> still appear without locales. (and that's the bug reported in bts).
Indeed, but the problem is gdm is not reading /etc/environment anymore
when the user logs in. So that also needs to be fixed. I agree with
trying to find LANG in /etc/environment.
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ood place for installers,
that is not a good reasoning. We did agree to respect the policy,
and to agree with it on our packaging work, but it does not mean
it is a holy book we cannot think about changing.
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ing an
upstream version and using an epoch, which sux terribly.
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t busy handling unhelpful "ideas" or
complaints from people who do not really understand what's going on. How
many times more this same discussion is going to happen?
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ur release process have a sane timing;
now, rehashing this kinds of non-issues doesn't help.
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for the Project. A person who does not want to do a task which has
been delegated or assigned to them does not need to do it. However, they
must not actively work against these rules and decisions properly made
under them. -- http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/constitution.en.html
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lease for such things, most of
the times, either.
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trying
to give you advice on what to do, anyway, I think.
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someone
wanting to install Debian on a matchbox and we need an official release
for that' or as 'someone is trying to remove my arch from Debian'.
Stop and think. Let's all try to get positive and helpful comments in;
or is everyone ok with having a release cycle just like t
ves them the bits, and they can simply start doing it.
Yep, if that's the case I see no problem, just like you.
Petter got my point correctly, FWIW.
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