Helmut Grohne dijo [Thu, Jun 06, 2024 at 09:28:52AM +0200]:
> Hello,
>
> I have just uploaded
> * base-files
> * bash
> * dash
> * glibc
> * util-linux
> to unstable. These were the last remaining packages shipping aliased
> files inside the package set relevant to debootstrap.
> (...)
> Than
rhys dijo [Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 01:09:18PM -0500]:
> My response remains the same. If it only affects a small slice of
> systems that already represent a small slice of systems, it becomes
> untenably difficult to chase that one bug that affects that one
> case.
>
> But that does not translate in
Roberto C. Sánchez dijo [Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 06:14:54AM -0400]:
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 08:39:51AM +0530, Nilesh Patra wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:32:59PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:18:56PM +0200, somebody *claiming* to be Luna
> > > Jernberg wrote:
Alec Leamas dijo [Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 01:59:26AM +0200]:
> So, at least three possible paths:
>
> 1. Persuade users to uninstall PPA packages before installing official
> packages and also generation 2 PPA packages with sane versions like 5.10.x
>
> 2. Use versions like 9000.5.10, 9000.5.12. etc
input on an idea I posted at the Wiki
[2].
Greetings,
[1]
http://www.aw-bc.com/catalog/academic/product/0,,0201835959,00%2ben-USS_01DBC.html
[2] http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?PartialReleasesFullRelease
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aptitude convert.
Far more usable, friendly, navigable has more
colors, lets me play minesweeper.
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should join LCC or not -
But if we do, we should _really_ join LCC, not just sit at the LCC
table and watch them play.
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eds? Of
course, if you are in the right mood, you can push your packages into
Debian as well, although they would not be base packages.
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Sarge has not been ready, and we will not release
before it is ready... Which is getting closer every day :)
There are many proposals to make Etch and future releases come out
sooner, please check them at
http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?ReleaseProposals
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t. And LCC is just one
step, there is still a lot of components outside it. I really doubt
that the LCC will be enough to lure them in.
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)
I'd suggest you (although I don't know .fig, so...) to try to make the
labels on the arrows be horizontal - Specially the ones on the left,
going from "Security team .deb" to testing and stable "security
updates", as it's easy to mis-read "upload" a
tely
:(
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ckage has
never been in a stable release and it is pretty obvious, I think it
should be removed.
...So this message is just to ask: Does anybody care about it, or
should I just file the removal bug?
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stions that he
prepared, even if they have a different AM. I know he can get quite
tough... And I completely trust his ability for this.
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gt; over the next few weeks, but doing this informally first may be
> > simpler. Or maybe not.
>
> Did you keep track which packages have been spoken for and for which
> you still need to file RFA or O reports?
>
> It seems at least tob is still outstanding. Gunnar Wolf seem
ia diagram down, I will do so,
> gladly.
I do it this way:
dia -nt png -s800 diagram.dia
This will output a 800 pixel wide diagram. Of course, this will be
only as reliable as the selected resolution allows.
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teando...
¿Qué tipo de estadísticas buscas? ¿Qué tipo de números? No puedo
asegurarte tener o saber ubicar todo (hay una cantidad increíble de
datos respecto a Debian regados por la red), pero con gusto te ayudo a
buscar.
¿Dónde es la UCI? Conocí a algunas personas principalmente en
Santiago, algo meno
Gah... Sorry for this Spanish last mail, it was supposed to be sent
only to Maykel Mora.
/me ducks.
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ttle bit
too late :-(
In the worst case, you can keep Switchconf as a locally generated
package, or set up your own internal apt repository for it and
whatever other packages you need. I really don't like it, it is too
dirty. I wanted to do a complete rewrite, but I never had time to do
s
plicating Ross'
(unadvertised) work.
Marco is trying to start working on Debian, I don't think he _needs_
to package this specific gtk2 stuff. Marco: Just forget it, grab
another package. If possible, adopt an orphan package. Damog: This is
not CONSOL, people are not out to get you ;-)
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ercules for s390),
and they do work reliably.
(BTW: I have had for a couple of months a Mac Quadra 950 sitting in my
house... It seems to work, but I have had no time to set it up :-/ )
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n't we start accepting buildds
running under emulated machines?
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solution as well in case we
could not run an emulator for a given slow platform.
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f the buildds are not too
busy doing other stuff, and probably would not enter our archive (or
would enter a different section - just as we now have contrib and
non-free, we could introduce not-useful ;-) )
Would such a measure be enough for you?
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uver stuff... Anyway, I am not formally proposing
it, but I do expect it to happen - After all, we will be in HEL ;-)
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> of attachments (reports etc) and do not have the time to delete mail.
> It will grow quite fast.
Ummm... And wouldn't it make more sense for them to switch to maildir
instead of mbox? I wouldn't like to search for new mails in there.
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I prefer to keep unstable free of betas or snapshots - they eventually
migrate into testing, and that's not good (even if your package is
called foo-cvs, foo-snapshot or whatever). If a new major release of a
package will change the way you do your packaging, just _prepare_ the
whole show in e
in 2 hours, what is more
> worth for OSS or free software?
Free Software as a product or as a social movement?
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Perl's OO is far from being intuitive. Python's and Ruby's are
excellent. Java's is awkward (as anything in Java is).
But this only adds noice and practically no signal to the discussion
:-)
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les, it would change its essence.
> I think this more productive to make their card work, AND then tell them
> "this card is working with a non-free piece of thing, meaning that you may
> have problems in the future in case of bugs or after upgrading your
> system. please ask th
aught. This is very much
> > unrelated to the rest of the thread *grin*.
>
> I don't see how this is either relevant to Debian development per se,
> nor rehashing past discussions. So please take this to another (i.e. a
> non-technical) list or private.
Just pray that nobody
s.
I don't care what RMS wanted to say, but I liked the license as a good
way to find you not respecting it - I can sue people!
So, at least until a new revision is published, GFDL cannot be seen as
free. And works licensed under the current revision with no "or later"
provisions c
t much more than that. Specially once you know they are
not out there just to make you more miserable ;-)
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cannot miss the social part. And I really would advise you not to try
to miss it
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"naked babes" than it is to install this package.
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adding man-power to it. So... Are you in?
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t be used, you are not holding the project back
waiting for m68k's KDE. Probably m68k will _never_ compile KDE, as I
doubt their buildds are ever idle - But what do you prefer, say, for
our ia64 buildd, to just sit there waiting for a new package to
arrive, or to start compiling something t
27;Maintainers', there is 'Uploaders' already.
>
> A common way is to list the contact address for the group
> as maintainer and each person responsible for uploads in Uploaders.
> You miss non official Debian developers this way though.
In the pkg-perl group, I often list a no
t, as some people
pointed out it does work. Strange thing is, looking into this specific
package:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/libp/libpdf-api2-perl.html
It reports that it was successfully uploaded yesterday to unstable. It
showed the same information some time ago (I did this same upload
ab
;t appear to be) buggy... However, their bits
are rotting. They are not widely used anymore, and they might have all
sorts of problems that do not get detected. I don't know if patches
for the php4 modules are backported (if the problem exists, of course)
for older php3 modules.
Adam: Please reply
ecome basically
impossible.
...But if you come up with an implementation, I'll just shut up :)
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gt; arbitrary time selected by the release team.
Umh... And... Well, if a RC bug is found in candidate, will it take (a
very minimum of) one month for the fix to get there?
Don't you think that, during the release cycle (and specially during
its first phase after a release) we will alway
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ince their last
release).
The bugs against WNPP have been filed. Do you want to pick them up? Do
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ould be better if we simply made rc capture initscripts'
> standard output (and exit status) and formatted it in such a way that
> bootup messages were prettier.
It is not just about prettyness, but about giving more concise and
useful information at a first glance - about usability.
John H. Robinson, IV dijo [Wed, May 04, 2005 at 10:21:37AM -0700]:
> John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> > Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > About makeztxt, it is a nice program to convert text files into ztxt
> > > files, apt for reading in a Palm w
one out of many packages - There might be dependencies
down there, and this kind of command would not follow them (or would
be inconsistent with the user's wishes of upgrading _only_ that).
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f you are
performing an installation on very reduced media, you only put / in
it, and /usr is network-mounted. This was quite a common setup some
years ago, and is still somewhat common.
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kage, it probably should be orphaned.
I am not currently using it, but seems easy to maintain - I'll take it
over.
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ment de la qualité
> votre pamphlet ;)
I have to agree here, even with my pathetic understanding of French
through Spanish similarity :)
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ages are
larger or the bugs are more intrincate, but anyway, most of Debian's
packages are quite straightforward.
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ment-issued ID without
charging me some US$200 first, at the very least. Most people in this
country don't make more than US$400 a month, so notaries are an
unaffordable luxury.
...And that for simple transactions. My father bought his house a
couple of years ago. IIRC, the notary's fee fo
ith the correct magic at the
correct place?
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Joey Hess dijo [Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:40:59PM -0400]:
> Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > Ummm... And if instead of asking the user for a disk change, this
> > mini-initrd just keeps polling the floppy for a non-erroneous read
> > (this means, the drive is not empty) with the
set them up to start on
any lower ones, we'll all be happy, won't we? Same thing for
networking.
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mm... Silly me thought that Italian was the only Latin language
which used no diacritics. Which kind of accents does it have?
(yes, OT and couple-of-days-late, I know)
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ngelog).
Don't copy the files over - Remove them during 'clean' and create a
symlink to them as the first step in 'configure'. (Why remove them?
Because otherwise diff will fail, as you cannot represent the symlink,
and your package build will fail)
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pping /bin/$that
and /sbin/$that ? Or /usr/bin/$foo and /usr/sbin/$foo ? Or (going back
some flamewars^Wweeks) /bin/$bleh and /usr/bin/$bleh ? ...Or,
mix-and-match, /sbin/$this and /usr/bin/$this?
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ut they start many
daemons at boot time. Probably, say, Apache and Postgres could be
started concurrently, saving some extra time.
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tible programs?
>
> QED. or something.
Oh, come on... Weren't we discussing how to get rid of circular
dependencies? Now paracircular metadependencies?
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irst class OSS license.
> It has been accepted by the OSI and this is sufficient for anybody.
...By OSI. That's an important part, but not all of, the Free Software
camp.
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d not be
Debian-specific? A compromise we have reached in some cases is to
change the _version_ number (i.e. in Mail::IMAPClient, where I had to
remove some non-free files from the distributed tarball) appending
'+deb' to it (so for us it's now 2.2.9+deb-4). It clearly shows it'
Leutloff is from
May 2005. Christian, are you still working on it? Should somebody else
take over?
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>
> Bug #35165.
>
> (Yes, I just realized the Closes is missing in the changelog.)
Ummm... I think you mean #356165 - the low number surely got my
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vial
to fix. We should check for updatedness, add watch files, and... Well,
simple stuff in the end. Perl group: Should we? Who starts?
David: Best luck. Hope to see you back here soon!
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- I18N in manpages? Sorry, haven't been there, haven't done that
Personally, I don't feel it natural having a Spanish-only
manpage. But then again, I'm among the nasty minority who does not
like his computer to use his mother tongue ;-)
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h... Looks noble, but in the case of a very simple and quite
unmaintained Perl module, I don't really think it's worth it to go so
far away from the original author's way - I will follow Javier's
advice... Of course, once I have time and finish adopting the modules
I told I woul
es. Gnash is still a long way for being useful
on most machines - it's just too heavy.
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Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:21:24PM +0200]:
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> [Gunnar Wolf]
> > In my experience, it will even _require_ AMD64 or similar CPUs to
> > display even trivial pages. Gnash is still a long way for being
> > useful on most machines - it's just too
...
Sacre bleu... My fingers are bleeding!
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Gunnar Wolf dijo [Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 03:29:30PM -0500]:
> Hi,
> (...)
GAH!
Sorry... Please ignore this mail.
I felt I researched thoroughly on coin's status, didn't it? Well, yes,
but I didn't pay attention that there are two different source
packages: coin (providing C
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* Package name: libscgi-rails-ruby
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* Package name: mongrel
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filenames, and
quite popular, in fact. Of course, they have a very special meaning,
you should not just touch them... But they are as valid as any other.
Greetings,
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ner - While he
seems to be away (this particular RC bug is almost two months old hand
has seen no activity from him), I'm sure his opinion is very much
worth it. If Rémi agrees with your opinion, or if he is unreachable
and nobody else steps forward to take this package over, I do feel
Bonsai is
HTTP interface to VCS-controlled repositories
viewcvs - view CVS Repositories via HTTP
viewcvs-query - view CVS (viewcvs-query.cgi)
At least, Chora2, Cvsweb, Vcsweb and Viewcvs look quite similar in
purpose. Why should we keep Bonsai?
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* Package name: libfilter-template-perl
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* License
was painful.
I hand-adjusted the minimum to 1GHz, but still... I'm unsure whether
to leave the ondemand governor active, as it might just never go back
to 3GHz on its own.
Greetings,
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peed
operation, and that's where it falls down. But I would not recommend
thinking on using this at 375MHz.
I tried this earlier today under 2.6.16, and am now under 2.6.18.
Greetings,
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Fing
html
[4] http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/imagemagick.html
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earness. Of course, document prominently that you are not building
from upstream sources. And, if possible, add a check in debian/rules
so you (or someone else) don't forget to repackage the orig.tar.gz for
the next upstream version. Make the build fail if it has ttf-dejavu.
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> can help it.
Oh!
I have to agree with Russ: If the font is free, then just delete it
from the target directory after building. Ship pristine sources.
Greetings,
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mail you some older releases (~4 year old, IIRC) I have
around here.
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ng in and
> out at the moment, displayed once.
What does "current" mean? How long does taking a "sample" take? Can
you adjust it? Maybe this is not as important for the description, but
should be mentioned in the package :)
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the Woody or earlier days).
So, please comment if this package is worth keeping... Or remove it
otherwise :)
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Gunnar Wolf dijo [Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 12:20:13PM -0600]:
> (...)
> So, please comment if this package is worth keeping... Or remove it
> otherwise :)
Ok, so adn pointed out on IRC to me that this package is depended on
by mplayer - I didn't find it, as I forgot I'm tracking Ma
(and only) upload Sep
2004) Popcon: 57 Rdepends: 1
libpod-pom-perl (O: #379983 Jul 2006; last non-QA upload Jul 2005) Popcon: 45
Rdepends: 0
libclass-contract-perl (O: #399254 Nov 2006; last non-QA upload Mar 2003)
Popcon: 26 Rdepends: 0
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sk as rescue media,
I really appreciate the ability of plugging some spare disks in a well
supported system and being able to recover a dead system.
Greetings,
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one
checking either who signed the package, or at the very least, who's
name is reported on each of the changelog's entries - But basing it on
the Uploaders field is just asking for trouble. Team maintainership is
just a way to make MIA people hurt Debian _less_, not more! :)
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evenings.
Lets better hurry, freeze now, release by June, and go looney during
Summertime!
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win, sometimes we will
lose, but Free Software is maturing and becoming attractive every day
for more people.
Oh! And the best thing: If you want Debian(/Linux/*BSD/whatever) to
beat Windows(/MacOS/HPUX/whatever), there is something very easy you
can do: Code, document, report, fix, translate, m
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