Re: Let's start salvaging packages!

2018-08-02 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2018-08-01 at 12:42:35 +0800, David Bremner wrote: > Guillem Jover writes: > > Some packages might not show activity for longish periods of time, > > because maintainers batch changes, for example to do at least one > > upload per release, with general pac

Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ? [was: Re: Re: New package netgen-lvs with binary /usr/bin/netgen - already taken]

2018-09-08 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2018-09-08 at 20:18:10 +0200, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > Le 08/09/2018 à 18:39, Sean Whitton a écrit : > > On Fri 07 Sep 2018 at 10:10PM +0200, Ruben Undheim wrote: > > > However, I think the policy gives us a lot of freedom to choose (it > > > is not very strict in this case). > > > >

Re: Limiting the power of packages

2018-10-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 08:38:09 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:19 AM Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > The problem: when a .deb package is installed, upgraded, or removed, > > the maintainer scripts are run as root and can thus do anything. Paul prompted a similar discussion the ot

Solomonic Ruling applied to namespaces (was Re: Updating the policy for conflicting binaries names ?)

2018-10-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2018-09-09 at 21:32:36 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > I am in favour of my "cut the child in half" rule, as a general rule. While the intention there was good and it might apparently feel like a good deterrent, I think the Solomonic Ruling is actually a very bad fit for something like a

Symbol specific dependencies (was Re: Depends/Recommends from libraries)

2017-03-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2017-03-09 at 17:29:09 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > I think the right way to solve this problem is to declare that: […] > * If a library needs or wants additional software installed, >if and when functions in that library are called, this >should be documented in the /usr/share

Re: changelog practice, unfinalised vs UNRELEASED vs ~version

2017-03-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2017-02-23 at 17:57:33 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Simon McVittie writes ("Re: changelog practice, unfinalised vs UNRELEASED vs > ~version"): > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 at 12:53:40 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > We could decorate the suite instead, but that does not have any > > > effec

dlopen()ing shared libraries considered harmful (was Re: Depends/Recommends from libraries)

2017-03-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2017-03-10 at 10:16:58 +, Simon McVittie wrote: > I do not agree that dlopen()ing dependencies (what you have called "dynamic > loading") is something we should encourage over normal linking with -lfoo > (resulting in a DT_NEEDED entry, what you have called "static loading"). Than

Re: Depends/Recommends from libraries

2017-03-25 Thread Guillem Jover
On Tue, 2017-03-21 at 12:36:16 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Depends/Recommends from libraries"): > > I think this would be a great way of introducing spurious bugs in our > > distribution from [developers] who don't happen to read the README > > file and miss dependencies t

Re: Depends/Recommends from libraries

2017-03-26 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2017-03-23 at 17:34:58 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Depends/Recommends from libraries"): > > It still feels like needless complexity to me, > > Here is an example I just found. It does not turn out to be a very good example, I'm afraid. :) > Try, in a fres

Re: Please add lzip support in the repository

2017-06-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 17:22:53 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 01:55:10PM +0200, Maria Bisen wrote: > > It's been drawn to my attention the topic included in this thread: > > > > https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2017-06/msg00084.html > > > > I've got the feeling that the

Re: Please add lzip support in the repository

2017-06-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 00:35:37 +1000, Stuart Prescott wrote: > > What is `apt-helper cat-file' and how does it help ? > $ apt-file search apt-helper > apt: /usr/lib/apt/apt-helper > $ /usr/lib/apt/apt-helper download-file > http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.x

Re: Bug#863801: grub-coreboot: fails to upgrade from jessie to stretch if init-select was installed

2017-07-01 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 12:22:34 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > The basic problem in init-select is of course the good old favourite of > a conffile not behaving correctly when the package has been removed but > not purged. This is probably worth fixing in unstable as follows, since > init-select

Re: Declarative packaging (Was: Re: Intended MBF: maintainer scripts not using strict mode)

2017-07-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2017-06-29 at 13:58:39 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Paul Wise writes ("Re: Declarative packaging (Was: Re: Intended MBF: > maintainer scripts not using strict mode)"): > > IIRC last time we discussed this, the recommendation was to set an > > environment variable that maintainer scrip

Re: DocBook 5 for Debian

2017-08-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2017-08-01 at 23:24:20 -0700, Paul Hardy wrote: > I am creating a new XSLT file to convert DocBook 5 "refentry" (man page) > files to texinfo files on a non-Debian system. I would like to bring > DocBook 5 into Debian. In a way, we already have some DocBook 5 support. :) > Therefore

Re: Debian Policy 4.0.1.0 released

2017-08-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Sat, 2017-08-05 at 18:58:13 -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > A.2. Version 4.0.1 > >Released August, 2017. […] >9.6 > >Packages installing a Free Desktop entry must not also install a >Debian menu system entry. Well this is still such terrible policy, and even

Re: A radically different proposal for differential updates

2017-08-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! While this sounds indeed interesting, I think it's impractical for at least the two reason below: On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 09:26:24 +0200, Christian Seiler wrote: > AFAQ (Anticipated frequently asked questions): > > Q: How can you reconstruct a tarball from the installed system? Won't >that

Re: X facts about Debian - some fact checking and looking for ideas.

2017-08-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2017-08-28 at 12:50:48 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > It did take a little while for the current format to evolve. For > example, very early source packages had changes recorded in a > "debian.README" file in somewhat ad-hoc formats. > > I think the current changelog format arrived wit

Re: Bug#873919: make dpkg-buildpackage default locale UTF-8

2017-09-01 Thread Guillem Jover
Control: forcemerge -1 843776 Hi! On Fri, 2017-09-01 at 10:23:59 +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Package: dpkg-dev > > More and more packages are adding unicode files as unicode support has > become more reliable and available. The package building process is not > guaranteed to happen i

Re: Raising the severity of reproduciblity issues to "important"

2017-09-01 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2017-09-01 at 09:26:44 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > AFAIK the only place where we currently still need binary packages that > have been built on a maintainer machine is for NEW, and after someone > has implemented a solution for that there is no blocker left for > allowing only source

Re: suil - current packaging query

2017-09-10 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2017-09-10 at 07:12:08 +0100, Phil Wyett wrote: > I found audacity now uses suil. > http://git.drobilla.net/cgit.cgi/suil.git/tree/PACKAGING > > The bottom section of the doc: > > *** IMPORTANT GUIDELINES FOR PACKAGING SUIL *** > > The purpose of Suil is to abstract plugin UI toolk

Re: Summary of the 2038 BoF at DC17

2017-09-21 Thread Guillem Jover
On Mon, 2017-09-18 at 18:33:12 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 05:46:34PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > >Steve McIntyre writes ("Re: Summary of the 2038 BoF at DC17"): > >> It depends on how/where/why you're embedding 64-bit time, > >> basically. If you're embedding a time_t (o

Alioth: Concerns about git URLs and groups/teams

2017-09-21 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! First off, and just to be clear, I think decomissioning Alioth is a good thing given its current state! Thanks for that. One concern is whether we'll be needing to mass switch yet again git repo URLs for the nth time? The nice thing about the current setup is that it's decoupled from Alioth,

Re: Removal of upstart integration

2017-10-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2017-09-26 at 21:03:00 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > While it doesn't hurt here, I think people are on their own if they set > POSIX_CORRECTLY or so (or include another incompatible `rmdir` in > $PATH). > Arguably `dpkg` could also run maintainer scripts in a more controlled > envi

Unsustainable debian/rules as official build entry point?

2017-10-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! So, dpkg 1.19.0 and 1.19.0.1 had a bug where the build target was not being called when building packages. Apparently this caused mass build failures, all due to packages (or their helpers) being very Debian policy non-compliant! These are all MUST requirements. Stuff like: - binary-target

Re: Unsustainable debian/rules as official build entry point?

2017-10-18 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 11:54:57 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 at 11:57:55 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > Building some packages for GNU/Hurd has been impossible in the past, > > since also tests are run under fakeroot. > > Is there some reason why this would be Hurd-specific?

Re: build* targets as root

2017-10-18 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 11:30:29 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 at 11:36:41 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > Apparently this caused mass build failures, all due to packages (or > > their helpers) being very Debian policy non-compliant! These are all > > MUS

getconf(1) interface considered cross-harmful

2017-10-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! I recently noticed that the getconf(1) interface is broken by design when it comes to cross-compiling. It always returns the information for the build system (GNU/dpkg terms), via the build system libc. This means that any package using getconf(1) to get build-specific information such as LFS

Re: getconf(1) interface considered cross-harmful

2017-10-30 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2017-10-19 at 10:51:30 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 at 10:50:36 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > When it comes to LFS, starting with dpkg 1.19.0 you can now use the > > new «lfs» feature from the «future» feature area > > ... or if your upstrea

Re: e2fsprogs as Essential: yes?: Maybe we should be separating l10n files first?

2017-11-12 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2017-11-12 at 18:27:16 -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 09:13:42PM +0100, Mathieu Parent wrote: > > There is another way to trim the locales: Use dpkg's "--path-exclude=". > > > > This also allows one to keep some locales. This is what we use at work > > [1]. The probl

Re: RFC: Support for selective usage of (fake)root during package build (R³)

2017-11-12 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2017-10-28 at 15:59:00 +, Niels Thykier wrote: > * Please, review the specification plus implemenations and provide >feedback on the proposal. Very much appreciated, anytime. > * Deadline for feedback: 2 weeks from today (but we are happy to extend >it if people find th

Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

2017-12-28 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2017-12-27 at 01:35:50 +0100, Philip Rinn wrote: > > Collab-maint > > > > > > If you want to allow other Debian Developers to work on your packages or > > software, you can create projects within the > > **Debian** group. Every Debian Developer has write access to projects >

Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

2017-12-28 Thread Guillem Jover
On Mon, 2017-12-25 at 21:10:37 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Dec 25, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > Every user can create projects in their own namespace (similar to GitHub). > What about git repository URLs? > I am not looking forward to update all Vcs-Git and Vcs-Browser headers > currently refer

Re: Bug#800093: ITP: libdpkg-parse-perl -- module to parse various dpkg files into Perl Objects

2015-09-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2015-09-26 at 21:12:57 +0300, Andy Beverley wrote: > Package: wnpp > Owner: Andy Beverley > Severity: wishlist > X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-p...@lists.debian.org > > * Package name: libdpkg-parse-perl > Version : 0.03 > Upstream Author : Adam

Re: Bug#800093: ITP: libdpkg-parse-perl -- module to parse various dpkg files into Perl Objects

2015-09-29 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 12:37:22 +0100, Andrew Beverley wrote: > On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 13:12 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > On Sat, 2015-09-26 at 21:12:57 +0300, Andy Beverley wrote: > > > Package: wnpp > > > Owner: Andy Beverley > > > Severity: wishl

Re: Defaulting to i686 for the Debian i386 architecture

2015-10-04 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2015-10-01 at 19:15:54 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > question to the Hurd and KFreeBSD maintainers ... change that on these > platforms too? As it currently stands, this is not a question when it comes to dpkg, that specific change is all or nothing. The Debian ←→ GNU cpu mapping is globa

Re: Replacing ldconfig maintscripts with declarative methods

2015-10-10 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2015-10-05 at 16:14:38 +, Niels Thykier wrote: > As of debhelper/9.20151004, dh_makeshlibs is now using triggers rather > than maintainer scripts to invoke ldconfig. > > * Lintian in untable + testing is already aware of this > * Lintian has /not yet/ been backported. Lintian f

Heads up: New -Wdate-time in default dpkg-buildflags output

2015-11-23 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 17:32:31 +, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > As part of the Reproducible Builds effort [0] we added a > "reproducible/timeless" feature area to dpkg which exports -Wdate-time > via CPPFLAGS [1]. > > In our CI infrastructure we enabled that in Spring. > > We now think this is

Re: What is the correct way to set owner to package's files?

2015-12-31 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2015-12-30 at 16:46:23 +0300, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: > Two caveats: > > 1) Be aware that a user "foo" on your build system might have different >UID than the user "foo" on the customer's system, and files' metadata >has owning user and group recorded as a pair of integers

libmd (was Re: Having a single, good arc4random in Debian)

2016-01-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ Just posting to debian and fdo mailing lists, but this might be of interest to other distros, please feel free to forward. ] On Mon, 2016-01-18 at 18:25:36 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jan 18, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > > More background information follows. What do others think abo

Re: Having a single, good arc4random in Debian

2016-01-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2016-01-18 at 09:57:27 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Steven Chamberlain writes: > > I think it would be good for Debian to standardise on a single, good > > arc4random implementation, available to any application that wants to > > use it. > > > I'd like it to become ubiquitous, on all

Re: Are two Vcs-{Git|Svn|...} and Vcs-Browser fields sensible?

2016-02-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2016-02-02 at 20:23:08 +, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 02/02/16 17:38, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > I must say that I do not like this proposal. The current situation does > > result > > in under-maintained packages requiring churn, but that's true for many > > aspects > > of them,

Re: libmd (was Re: Having a single, good arc4random in Debian)

2016-02-13 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 01:18:28 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > [ Just posting to debian and fdo mailing lists, but this might be of > interest to other distros, please feel free to forward. ] This still applies. > On Mon, 2016-01-18 at 18:25:36 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: >

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2016-02-22 at 14:05:33 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > [ for -devel: this is a reply to a post to debian-apache, please see > https://lists.debian.org/debian-apache/2016/02/msg4.html ] Inlining parts of that mail here: > On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 01:09:18 +, Eric Mittelette wrot

Re: Archive changes

2016-03-16 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2016-03-15 at 15:32:40 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:15:16PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > I've just activated a few changes to the archive we talk(ed) about for a > > long time. And while it is not exactly the start of this release cycle, > > it should sti

Re: Possible MBF: Packages depending on iceweasel but not firefox/firefox-esr

2016-03-21 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2016-03-20 at 20:31:13 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2016-03-20 at 12:39 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > Leaving aside any other reasons: many packages have a versioned > > dependency on iceweasel, and we don't have versioned provides. > Yes we do, since dpkg 1.18. Actually since

Re: Bug#821066: ITP: glide -- Vendor package management for golang

2016-04-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 13:34:37 +0800, ChangZhuo Chen wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)" > > * Package name: glide There is already an unrelated glide source package in the archive. Which also generates several *glide* binary packages. Namespacing

Time for a .changes file format 2.0?

2016-04-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! Samuel Thibault recently reported in #818618 that the Binary field in the .changes files does not get filtered to only include the binary packages that are being uploaded, as documented in the ancient doc/programming.sgml in dpkg 1.3.3 [P], current debian-policy and now in the dpkg deb-changes

gcc-on-diet (was Re: Seriously, these binaries should be stripped by default)

2016-04-21 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 18:28:59 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Control: severity -1 serious > Justification: wasting many megabytes of space and download Yes. > We're shipping broken toolchain packages that are intentionally too > large, and this is causing issues elsewhere. The "netinst" CD

Re: Bug#823052: ITP: python-mkdocs-bootswatch -- Bootswatch themes for MkDocs

2016-04-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2016-04-30 at 21:57:47 +1000, Brian May wrote: > Would appreciate it if somebody could confirm that the license is BSD > and if so what version of the BSD license this is. > > https://github.com/mkdocs/mkdocs-bootswatch/blob/master/LICENSE That looks like a BSD-2 clause license but w

Re: PIE + bindnow for Stretch?(Re: Time to reevaluate the cost of -fPIC?)

2016-05-17 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2016-05-15 at 21:45:55 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote: > 2016-05-15 20:49 GMT+02:00 Niels Thykier : > > Bálint Réczey: > >> I think making PIE and bindnow default in dpkg (at least for amd64) would > >> be > >> perfect release goals for Stretch. > > > > I support the end goal, but I suspe

Re: PIE + bindnow for Stretch?(Re: Time to reevaluate the cost of -fPIC?)

2016-05-17 Thread Guillem Jover
On Tue, 2016-05-17 at 12:08:09 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > I'm not a fan myself for turning on hardening flags in the compiler itself, > but if you do that, then dpkg issues like https://bugs.debian.org/823869 > need to be addressed (whether all obscure build systems picking these up, or > not).

Re: Bug#824130: ITP: libgames-support -- Useful functionality shared among GNOME games

2016-05-17 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2016-05-12 at 17:39:57 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Michael Biebl > > * Package name: libgames-support > Version : 1.0.2 > Upstream Author : Michael Catanzaro > * URL : https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Games > * Lic

Re: Debian i386 architecture now requires a 686-class processor

2016-05-17 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2016-05-10 at 19:17:15 -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > On Saturday 07 May 2016 13:23:30 Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Last year it was decided to increase the minimum CPU features for the > > i386 architecture to 686-class in the stretch release cycle. This > > means dr

Re: Debian i386 architecture now requires a 686-class processor

2016-05-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 16:57:48 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2016-05-18, Julien Cristau wrote: > > Why aren't those bugs RC? That's indeed a good question! It would probably be best if a neutral party would do that. :) > Either we give both users on old hardware a bad experience or all th

Re: PIE and static libraries

2016-05-22 Thread Guillem Jover
uggestions, improvements, wording tweaks, etc. Thanks, Guillem From d3a6f97736bade62a8945f91c22593f22f3e2ae4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Guillem Jover Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 19:20:04 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] man: Document interaction between PIE and libraries Prompted-by: Christian Seiler --- man/dpkg-bu

Re: Bug#827678: ITP: pacapt -- Arch's pacman-like package manager for some Unices

2016-06-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2016-06-19 at 23:44:50 +0800, ChangZhuo Chen wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)" > * Package name: pacapt > Version : 2.3.8 > Upstream Author : Anh K. Huynh > * URL : https://github.com/icy/pacapt > * License

Re: [MBF]: Building arch:all and arch:any without build-{arch,indep} targets

2016-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2016-04-03 at 17:29:32 +, Niels Thykier wrote: > The targets are "officially" mandatory and have been since 3.9.4 > (released in September 2012). Currently lintian and dpkg still forgive > their absence to avoid auto-rejects and FTBFS bugs. > However, Guillem and I would like to

Re: dpkg-genchanges warning for -dbgsym packages

2016-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 02:06:56 +0200, Iustin Pop wrote: > I'm very glad for the automatic debug packages, but I wonder if I'm > doing something wrong since I get this warning: > > dpkg-genchanges: warning: package foo-dbgsym listed in files list > but not in control info > > The pa

[MBF] Obsoleting bzip2 compression in .deb packages

2016-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! I'd like to obsolete bzip2 (and lzma) as .deb compressors when building binary packages. dpkg-deb currently emits warnings, this would turn them into errors. For lzma it's fine in Debian as the archive has never accepted them. For bzip2 there are currently 31 source packages that produce some

[RFC] Switching dpkg-deb --uniform-compression by default

2016-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! I'd like consider switching dpkg-deb --uniform-compression by default, so that both control.tar and data.tar members use the same compression, which currently would be xz (or gzip with -Zgzip). This would give us more uniform and smaller packages. I think the d-i people wanted something like

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2024-10-09 at 19:42:45 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2024-10-09 at 10:26 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Mon Oct 7, 2024 at 8:58 AM BST, Marc Haber wrote: > > > P.S.: Isnt it about time to rename exim4 to exim? > > > > Or apache2 to apache? > The ASF is responsible for

Re: ITS: aiocoap

2024-10-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 11:37:52 +0200, Mazen Neifer wrote: > Source: aiocoap > Severity: important > I would like to salvage this package because it is no more maintained. > > Last maintainer upload was more than 5 years ago. > Last commit to git on salsa was on February 2019. > > If no obje

Re: signify and signify-openbsd names

2024-10-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 09:01:06 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > 1) Take current non-OpenBSD 'signify' source package and upload NEW > 'signify-mail' with d/control modified as: > > Source: signify-mail > ... > Package: signify-mail > Replaces: signify (<= 1.14-7) > > Do we need 'Breaks: signi

Re: Bug#1085127: ITP: go-nmap -- Nmap XML parsing library for Go (library)

2024-10-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2024-10-14 at 22:20:11 -0300, Marcos Rodrigues de Carvalho (aka oday) wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "Marcos Rodrigues de Carvalho (aka oday)" > X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, marcosrcarvalh...@gmail.com > > * Package name: go-nmap > Version

Re: Alternative signature mechanisms for upstream source verification

2024-10-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2024-10-04 at 18:21:01 +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > Picking up a thread that started on debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org: > https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/14198883.O9o76ZdvQC@galatea > > Upstreams that care about supply chain security have been building > mechanisms to authenti

Re: Bug#1081111: ITP: sphinx-toolbox -- Box of handy tools for Sphinx

2024-10-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2024-09-08 at 08:55:58 +0530, Kathara Sasikumar wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Kathara Sasikumar > X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > > * Package name: sphinx-toolbox > Version : 3.8.0 > Upstream Contact: Dominic Davis-Foster > * URL

Re: Bug#1085206: ITP: evalidate -- Validation and secure evaluation of untrusted Python expressions

2024-10-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2024-10-16 at 11:00:31 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Colin Watson > X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > > * Package name: evalidate > Version : 2.0.3 > Upstream Contact: Yaroslav Polyakov > * URL : http

Re: Bug#1078734: ITP: legacycrypt -- The legacycrypt module is a standalone version of https://docs.python.org/3/library/crypt.html (deprecated), to ease 3.13 transition.

2024-10-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2024-08-14 at 20:47:56 -0500, eevelweezel wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: eevelweezel > X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, eevel.wee...@gmail.com > * Package name: legacycrypt > Version : 0.0.3 > Upstream Contact: Christian Heimes > * U

Re: Bug#1085388: ITP: einops -- Flexible and powerful tensor operations for readable and reliable code.

2024-10-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2024-10-18 at 12:03:46 -0700, Mo Zhou wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Mo Zhou > X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > > * Package name    : einops > * URL : https://einops.rocks > * License : MIT/Expat >   Programming Lang: Python >  

Re: efficient way to detect linker script files?

2024-10-22 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-10-22 at 23:00:29 +0200, Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas wrote: > I'd like to discover all installed linker scripts, for the purposes of > #823531 (check for broken linker scripts files). it's not clear to me > that there's a convention I could rely on to avoid brute forcing > filetyp

Re: Epoch for src:fuse-ext2 to replace src:fuse-umfuse-ext2's fuseext2 binary

2024-10-22 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-10-22 at 00:00:21 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, 2024-10-21 at 00:49 +0200, наб wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:39:36PM +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > On Sun, 2024-10-20 at 20:03 +0200, наб wrote: > > > > I'd like to use an epoch so I'm asking for consensus per pol

Re: Re: It makes no sense to link vmlinuz and initramfs to the root directory

2024-11-12 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-11-12 at 11:02:53 +0100, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: > Quoting Hans (2024-11-12 09:35:08) > > However, maybe a link is alo no more needed, even with a seperated /boot > > partition. > > It's just a symlink. What's the harm? For me, the default location of the symlink

Re: Supporting alternative zlib implementations

2024-09-24 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2024-09-25 at 00:39:10 +0200, Fay Stegerman wrote: > * Guillem Jover [2024-09-24 17:45]: > > Personally, I think fully migrating from zlib to zlib-ng would sound > > great (even for trixie), but I guess we can take it slow if you do not > > feel confident or ha

Re: Supporting alternative zlib implementations

2024-09-24 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 15:58:10 +0200, Mark Brown wrote: > In the past I've pushed back on doing anything here since zlib is > essential and it seemed better to be consistent over the ecosystem than > to use a more niche implementation, and some of the early optimisation > efforts had not worke

Re: Bug#1082850: ITP: golang-github-mitchellh-pointerstructure -- Addressing and modifying values in Go structures using a string syntax

2024-09-27 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2024-09-27 at 12:28:51 +, Francisco Vilmar Cardoso Ruviaro wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Francisco Vilmar Cardoso Ruviaro > X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, vil...@debian.org > * Package name: golang-github-mitchellh-pointerstructure > Ver

Re: Bug#1086878: python-catalogue: 2.1.0 was yanked - what version scheme should we use for 2.0.10?

2024-11-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2024-11-07 at 01:15:08 +, Colin Watson wrote: > Source: python-catalogue > Version: 2.1.0-6 > Severity: normal > X-Debbugs-Cc: Andreas Tille , debian-devel@lists.debian.org > https://pypi.org/project/catalogue/#history shows that 2.1.0 was yanked > from PyPI, but it's what we curr

Re: Bug#1086878: python-catalogue: 2.1.0 was yanked - what version scheme should we use for 2.0.10?

2024-11-07 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2024-11-07 at 02:01:49 +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 02:42:08AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > Given that I assume the current (non-retracted) upstream version is > > going to be close to surpass the retracted one, I'd go for the +really &g

Re: Rebuilds to enable PAC and BTI support on arm64

2024-11-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2024-11-06 at 17:28:38 +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 10:43:07AM +0100, Emanuele Rocca wrote: > > As a final thought, given that new toolchain versions bring multiple > > improvements over the years it's perhaps worth thinking about rebuilding > > the archi

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix it

2024-11-22 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-11-05 at 17:35:59 -0600, Aaron Rainbolt wrote: > With all this in mind, I'd like to call some attention to a feature > request made by Patrick Schleizer some time ago, whom I've copied on > this email. The feature request suggests the addition of a new field to > Debian's binary d

[Summary]: Supporting alternative zlib implementations

2024-11-22 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ I'll try to summarize the current discussion and status, what might be blockers, and a potential incremental way forward. ] On Wed, 2024-09-25 at 10:48:50 +0200, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 05:45:49PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > On Tue, 2024-09-24 at

Re: DEP-0, DEP0 or DEP 0?

2024-11-22 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2024-11-14 at 00:48:18 -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > I am the kind of person that gets hugely annoyed by things like this. > Is anyone else feeling it? >· > Can we agree on calling Debian Enhancement Proposals DEP-N with a dash? I'm also all for consistency, although I'm in general

Re: Freestanding arch

2024-11-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 16:09:42 +, Bastien Roucariès wrote: > Le dimanche 24 novembre 2024, 12:06:26 UTC Bastien Roucariès a écrit : > > I plan to implement freestanding architecture specification. > > Following Toulouse debian mini debconf and javascript presentation it will > > be really

Re: Building with many cores without OOM

2024-12-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 14:37:45 +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > Hi Guillem (2024.12.04_13:03:29_+) > > > Are there other layers that could reasonably be used to implement a more > > > general form of parallelism limiting based on system RAM? Ideally, we'd > > > consolidate these implementati

Re: Building with many cores without OOM

2024-12-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2024-11-28 at 10:54:37 +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote: > I am one of those who builds a lot of different packages with different > requirements and found that picking a good parallel=... value in > DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS is hard. Go too low and your build takes very long. Go > too high and you

Re: Building with many cores without OOM

2024-12-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 14:03:30 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Thu, 2024-11-28 at 10:54:37 +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote: > > Are there other layers that could reasonably be used to implement a more > > general form of parallelism limiting based on system RAM? Ideally, we&#x

Re: Building with many cores without OOM

2024-12-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2024-12-05 at 09:23:24 +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote: > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 02:03:29PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-11-28 at 10:54:37 +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote: > > > For one thing, I propose extending debhelper to provide > > > --min-ra

Re: A 2025 NewYear present: make dpkg --force-unsafe-io the default?

2024-12-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ This was long ago, and the following is from recollection from the top of my head and some mild «git log» crawling, and while I think it's still accurate description of past events, interested people can probably sieve through the various long discussions at the time in bug reports a

Filesystem snapshotting in dpkg (was Re: A 2025 NewYear present: make dpkg --force-unsafe-io the default?)

2024-12-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2024-12-27 at 12:46:02 -0500, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > On 12/27/24 7:34 AM, Geert Stappers wrote: > > Yeah, it feels wrong that dpkg gets file system code, gets code for one > > particular file system. > > I disagree. If there is a significant optimization that dpkg can implement > th

Re: A 2025 NewYear present: make dpkg --force-unsafe-io the default?

2024-12-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2024-12-28 at 20:28:30 +0100, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > There is a possible related, but independent, optimization that has the > chance to significantly reduce dpkg install's time up to 90%. > > There is PoC patch [1,2] to teach dpkg to reflink files from data.tar > instead of copyin

Bug#1095156: ITP: golang-github-xyproto-randomstring -- generate random strings

2025-02-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guillem Jover * Package name: golang-github-xyproto-randomstring Version : 1.2.0-1 Upstream Author : Alexander F. Rødseth * URL : https://github.com/xyproto/randomstring * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Go

Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?

2025-01-29 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2025-01-23 at 17:06:04 -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Current https://dep-team.pages.debian.net/deps/dep14/ states that the > default Debian branch name is 'debian/latest': > > > In Debian this means that uploads to unstable and experimental should be > > prepared either in > > the debia

Re: Invalid check in debian/patches

2025-02-01 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2025-02-01 at 22:33:16 +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > On Sat, 2025-02-01 at 17:35 +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > > But also, in this particular case, it's not the issue of the spec but of a > > particular tool trying to enforce the rule. > > > > I'll file a bug to fix it. > I fin

Re: Should l10n packages be Recommends or Suggests?

2024-12-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2024-12-06 at 09:22:43 -, Sune Vuorela wrote: > Though I do also think we have a hole in our dependency system here. I think most of the needed pieces are there already though. > if I set my system up to be in entish, I don't want to chase translation > files all over the package

Re: Is HURD's lack of HOST_NAME_MAX and PATH_MAX a good architectural approach

2025-01-20 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2025-01-20 at 13:21:32 -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: > TL;DR: Is it time for the rest of Debian to stop conforming to HURD's > lack of maximums for path and hostname? By thispoint I think we > recognize those lack of maximums as an anti-pattern for DOS prevention > and other security reaso

Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?

2025-01-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2025-01-27 at 06:28:59 -0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2025-01-27T12:27:12+0100, IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian GNU|Linux) wrote: > > as for the original subject of this thread: what's actually wrong with > > 'debian/main' instead of 'debian/latest'? i personally do not really > >

Re: gettext 0.23.x

2025-01-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2025-01-05 at 17:44:33 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > I've just uploaded gettext 0.23.1-0.1 for experimental. Ah, great, thanks! > In most cases, the failure is like this: > > make[3]: Entering directory '/<>/po' > *** error: gettext infrastructure mismatch: using a Makefile.in.in fr

Re: gettext 0.23.x

2025-01-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2025-01-05 at 19:37:44 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > El 5/1/25 a las 19:15, Guillem Jover escribió: > > I think this indicates a problem in the upstream autotools support, > > and it might be better to try to fix that instead of adding what seems > > like a work

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

2024-12-23 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2024-12-23 at 13:20:39 +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > * Julian Andres Klode [241223 12:49]: > > Something still pulls in gpgv there > > which is unfortunate, we lack a 5MB savings. I think that would be gpgv being Priority: important, which makes debootstrap and friends pull it i

Re: gettext 0.23.x

2025-01-14 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2025-01-06 at 16:45:54 +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Santiago Vila writes: > > Note for Guillem: I've included your suggested fix in the bug template. Great, thanks! > I don't think we should patch upstream code for things that aren't clear > upstream bugs. Patching upstream code

Re: Removing manpages from libpam-modules to improve multi-arch

2025-01-16 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2025-01-15 at 09:43:36 -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: > My proposal is to move the man pages into libpam-doc. > I'm not actually convinced that normal Debian users need man pages for > all the pam modules on all Debian systems, and a suggests relationship > should be sufficient. > If people

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