Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-02 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 02/08/2024 11:20, Andrea Pappacoda ha scritto: Hi Otto, and all the others participating in this thread :) Il giorno sab 27 lug 2024 alle 15:38:40 -07:00:00, Otto Kekäläinen ha scritto: I have drafted a new DEP at https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/8 titled "DEP-18: E

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-02 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 02/08/2024 15:49, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: Hi Fabio, Quoting Fabio Fantoni (2024-08-02 14:31:04) One particular thing noticed in some cases (and I hope they are not many) is the lack of use or especially updates of the Vcs-* fields in d/control. I think is important point to packaging

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 03/08/2024 01:28, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: Quoting Fabio Fantoni (2024-08-02 23:51:26) Il 02/08/2024 15:49, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: I think that both email and systems like salsa/github/gitlab etc. are useful, both with pros and cons. Forcing people to use only one or the other

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 03/08/2024 14:40, Kentaro Hayashi ha scritto: Hi, Even though +1 for DEP-18 basically, I think that it might be better to add an option to formalize package owner's (single person maintainer) collaboration policy especially about non-team maintained packages under https://salsa.debian.org/deb

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 03/08/2024 15:16, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: Quoting Kentaro Hayashi (2024-08-03 14:40:51) Hi, Even though +1 for DEP-18 basically, I think that it might be better to add an option to formalize package owner's (single person maintainer) collaboration policy especially about non-team mainta

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-03 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 03/08/2024 15:59, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: Quoting Fabio Fantoni (2024-08-03 15:39:00) Il 03/08/2024 14:40, Kentaro Hayashi ha scritto: Hi, Even though +1 for DEP-18 basically, I think that it might be better to add an option to formalize package owner's (single person maint

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-04 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 04/08/2024 15:36, Andrey Rakhmatullin ha scritto: On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 04:15:33PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: one problem I have with NMUs in team-maintained package is that they often bypass Salsa… Would it make sense to add to the DEP a request that NMUs are started from and pushed to

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-05 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 05/08/2024 03:14, Andrey Rakhmatullin ha scritto: On Sun, Aug 04, 2024 at 04:15:13PM +0200, Fabio Fantoni wrote: Il 04/08/2024 15:36, Andrey Rakhmatullin ha scritto: On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 04:15:33PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: one problem I have with NMUs in team-maintained package is

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

2024-08-05 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 05/08/2024 10:40, Simon Richter ha scritto: Hi, On 8/5/24 17:10, Fabio Fantoni wrote: currently you find such information from a simple search and/or looking a bit in the source, in the possible git in a few minutes only in part of cases, in many other cases instead it requires more time

Re: Accepting DEP14?

2024-08-17 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 17/08/2024 10:47, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: Hi Chris, Quoting Chris Hofstaedtler (2024-08-17 10:17:19) On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 23:36:31 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: IMO, and from discussions in the Debian Perl Group, the blocker is the conversion of existing repos, both on salsa (which shou

Re: Accepting DEP14?

2024-08-18 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 17/08/2024 12:00, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: Quoting Fabio Fantoni (2024-08-17 11:20:01) Il 17/08/2024 10:47, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: Hi Chris, Quoting Chris Hofstaedtler (2024-08-17 10:17:19) On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 23:36:31 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: IMO, and from discussions in

Re: Accepting DEP14?

2024-08-19 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 18/08/2024 15:51, Fabio Fantoni ha scritto: Il 17/08/2024 12:00, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: Quoting Fabio Fantoni (2024-08-17 11:20:01) Il 17/08/2024 10:47, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: Hi Chris, Quoting Chris Hofstaedtler (2024-08-17 10:17:19) On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 23:36:31 +0200

Re: DEP18 follow-up: What would be the best path to have all top-150 packages use Salsa CI?

2024-08-25 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 25/08/2024 08:27, Gioele Barabucci ha scritto: On 25/08/24 01:46, gregor herrmann wrote: Many of the packages are trivial, so updating them (including autopkgtests and blhc and lintian and whatnot) doesn't take longer than 5 minutes. So I can decide to wait for salsa CI for 10 minutes or upd

Re: DEP-18 discussion summary (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

2024-08-28 Thread Fabio Fantoni
choices. Fabio Fantoni suggested allowing maintainers to specify their preferred collaboration methods in a machine-readable way, for example through a "Collaboration-Policy" field in debian/control. As pointed by other people there is debian/README.source that can be used for that. S

Major of piuparts failed or blocked for long-standing errors of other packages

2024-08-31 Thread Fabio Fantoni
I've noticed for a long time (maybe years) that most of the packages in DDPO have Piuparts tests failing because of long-standing errors of other packages and then consequently also block many more dependent on them making difficult to find real problems related to the selected package. Here's

Re: Major of piuparts failed or blocked for long-standing errors of other packages

2024-08-31 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 31/08/2024 22:27, Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas ha scritto: hi FAbio, On Sat Aug 31, 2024 at 11:54 AM CEST, Fabio Fantoni wrote: I've noticed for a long time (maybe years) that most of the packages in DDPO have Piuparts tests failing because of long-standing errors of other packages and

Re: lintian.debian.org off ?

2024-09-03 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 03/09/2024 20:05, Lucas Nussbaum ha scritto: On 03/09/24 at 12:31 -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote: FYI, I opened an RT ticket asking DSA for a VM to host all of this. Hi, I still don't understand the long term strategy here. UDD provides the same information. I recently did the work

Re: lintian.debian.org off ?

2024-09-03 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 03/09/2024 21:17, Lucas Nussbaum ha scritto: On 03/09/24 at 20:49 +0200, Fabio Fantoni wrote: Il 03/09/2024 20:05, Lucas Nussbaum ha scritto: On 03/09/24 at 12:31 -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote: FYI, I opened an RT ticket asking DSA for a VM to host all of this. Hi, I still don&#

DEP5 and spdx shortname of license

2024-09-07 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Hi, spdx has an ever-increasing usage. Today trying reuse tool I tried to convert DEP5 d/copyright to REUSE.toml thinking a possible help to some project upstream, when license and copyright "management" is not good, converting from d/copyright (DEP5) which is better, for example with additiona

Re: DEP5 and spdx shortname of license

2024-09-07 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 07/09/2024 22:56, Aurélien COUDERC ha scritto: Hi Fabio, Le samedi 7 septembre 2024, 21:43:35 CEST Fabio Fantoni a écrit : So I wonder, is it possible to put in d/copyright DEP5 the short license names using the spdx ones? we’ve been doing that for KDE packages since upstream started

Re: DEP5 and spdx shortname of license

2024-09-08 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 08/09/2024 12:25, Aurélien COUDERC ha scritto: Le 8 septembre 2024 09:38:00 GMT+02:00, Andrea Pappacoda a écrit : Hi Aurélien, On Sat Sep 7, 2024 at 10:56 PM CEST, Aurélien COUDERC wrote: Our spec [2] already defines an equivalence rule between License-X and License-X.0 declarations for

Re: DEP5 and spdx shortname of license

2024-09-08 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 08/09/2024 07:38, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: [CC'ing Fabio as they seemingly missed my earlier list-only reply] Quoting Fabio Fantoni (2024-09-07 23:57:35) Il 07/09/2024 22:56, Aurélien COUDERC ha scritto: Le samedi 7 septembre 2024, 21:43:35 CEST Fabio Fantoni a écrit : So I wonde

Bug#1038946: ITP: xdg-desktop-portal-xapp -- Xapp's Cinnamon, MATE and Xfce backends for xdg-desktop-portal

2023-06-23 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Fabio Fantoni X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, fantonifa...@tiscali.it * Package name    : xdg-desktop-portal-xapp   Version : 1.0.1   Upstream Contact: Linux Mint Project * URL : https://github.com/linuxmint/xdg-desktop

Re: Debian 13 release schedule and Debian 15 codename announcement

2023-07-05 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 05/07/2023 22:50, Joaquín Rufo Gutierrez ha scritto: |Hello Debian users, We are happy to announce that Debian 13, codenamed "Trixie", is expected to be released sometime in 2024, following the usual 2-year release cycle.| | | |Hi, sorry but if it were |||2-year release cycle | shouldn't i

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-01 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 01/12/2023 01:20, Dimitri John Ledkov ha scritto: Hi, Currently dak requires signatures on .changes & .dsc uploads. .changes with signatures are publicly announced and then .dsc are published in the archive with signatures. .changes references .dsc. All .dsc have Checksums-Sha256 for the

Re: 64-bit time_t transition in progress

2024-02-03 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 02/02/2024 17:43, Steve Langasek ha scritto: Hello, debian-devel-announce wouldn't let me attach the file, but for those on debian-devel at least, you can find the dd-list of to-be-NMUed source packages attached. Thanks, Sorry to bother you (or anyone else who wants to answer) with a quest

Re: lazarus is marked for autoremoval from testing

2024-02-13 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 13/02/2024 08:06, Abou Al Montacir ha scritto: Hi All, On Tue, 2024-02-13 at 04:39 +, Debian testing autoremoval watch wrote: lazarus 3.0+dfsg1-6 is marked for autoremoval from testing on 2024-03-13 It is affected by these RC bugs: 1061034: lcl-utils-3.0: lcl-utils-3.0 Missing dependenc

Re: finally end single-person maintainership

2024-04-08 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 08/04/2024 15:45, Julien Puydt ha scritto: Hi Le lun. 8 avr. 2024, 14:45, Simon Richter a écrit : The web interface presented by salsa also does not have the necessary data<->metadata filters to provide an actual insight into what is really happening in the repository. It'

Re: How to contribute ?

2022-01-01 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 01/01/2022 03:31, Leandro Cunha ha scritto: Hi, On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 4:06 PM Maxime Lombard wrote: Hello, I'm an user of Debian since 10 years ago and it's only now that i decide to help to packaging. I send this email about wine and wine-development package which are not updated sinc

on debomatic-*.debian.net unable to build bullseye and bullseye-backports

2022-03-23 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Hi, I use debomatic-*.debian.net for some years and is very useful for testing packages quickly (including installing for testing on many devices easy and fast), it also helped me to solve build problems on architectures that I don't have devices for (for example ppc64el and s390x). Actually i

Re: on debomatic-*.debian.net unable to build bullseye and bullseye-backports

2022-03-24 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 23/03/2022 11:35, Paul Wise ha scritto: On Wed, 2022-03-23 at 11:13 +0100, Fabio Fantoni wrote: Is there someone else who has access to those servers and can please fix? AFAIK Luca Falavigna is the only one with access. There are alternatives to the debomatic hardware listed here: https

Re: on debomatic-*.debian.net unable to build bullseye and bullseye-backports

2022-03-30 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 24/03/2022 13:19, Fabio Fantoni ha scritto: Il 23/03/2022 11:35, Paul Wise ha scritto: On Wed, 2022-03-23 at 11:13 +0100, Fabio Fantoni wrote: Is there someone else who has access to those servers and can please fix? AFAIK Luca Falavigna is the only one with access. There are

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-23 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 23/05/2022 01:42, Glauber Baldez ha scritto: Some considerations for project improvement: 1. Debian should already offer users a minimal installation mode similar to Ubuntu, without media players, games and office applications. 2. Debian should follow Doug Gwyn's words in stating that Unix

Re: Project Improvements

2022-05-25 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 25/05/2022 10:33, Paul van der Vlis ha scritto: Op 23-05-2022 om 13:00 schreef Fabio Fantoni: Il 23/05/2022 01:42, Glauber Baldez ha scritto: Some considerations for project improvement: 1. Debian should already offer users a minimal installation mode similar to Ubuntu, without media

Re: GSConnect GNOME Shell extension package

2022-06-28 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 28/06/2022 07:04, Bruno Kleinert ha scritto: Hi, I had begun packaging GSConnect https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1319/gsconnect/ some months ago. It's the GNOME equivalent of KDE Connect and integrates some functions of Android devices into the GNOME desktop environment. I used th

Re: Bug#1013992: ITP: session-migration -- tool to migrate in user session settings

2022-07-06 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 29/06/2022 03:51, Jeremy Bicha ha scritto: On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 8:07 PM Guillem Jover wrote: Package: session-migration Description: Tool to migrate in user session settings This tool is used to migrate in session user data when a program is evolving its configuration, or needing to h

Re: Automatic trimming of changelogs in binary packages

2022-08-19 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 19/08/2022 03:01, Paul Wise ha scritto: On Thu, 2022-08-18 at 21:18 +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: Does anybody have objective objections against activating automatic changelog trimming in binary packages? Before we consider enabling this by default, first we need a way for `apt changelog`

Re: Automatic trimming of changelogs in binary packages

2022-08-19 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 19/08/2022 09:43, julien.pu...@gmail.com ha scritto: Le vendredi 19 août 2022 à 09:04 +0200, Fabio Fantoni a écrit : Il 19/08/2022 03:01, Paul Wise ha scritto: On Thu, 2022-08-18 at 21:18 +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: Does anybody have objective objections against activating automatic

Bug#842335: ITP: mint-themes -- A collection of Mint themes

2022-09-03 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Followup-For: Bug #842335 Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Owner: Fabio Fantoni Control: block -1 by 842338 Control: retitle -1 ITP: mint-themes -- A collection of Mint themes * Package name    : mint-themes   Version : 2.0.5 * URL : https

Bug#1022236: ITP: mint-x-icons -- Mint-X icon theme

2022-10-22 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Fabio Fantoni X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, fantonifa...@tiscali.it * Package name    : mint-x-icons   Version : 1.6.4 * URL : https://github.com/linuxmint/mint-x-icons * License : GPL-3+   Description : Mint

Re: ITP: misk -- Miscellaneous useful bits for python 3

2022-11-08 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 08/11/2022 15:20, Lance Lin ha scritto: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Lance Lin X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, lqi...@protonmail.com * Package name: python3-misk Version : 0.7.1 Upstream Author : Mark Gillard * URL : https://github.com/m

Re: [DEVEL] Enable support for Renesas platform

2022-11-18 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 18/11/2022 09:20, Huỳnh Thành Hưng ha scritto: Dear Debian-developer, I’m from Renesas Electronics Corporation, My group is developing to support running Debian OS on our devices, also for getting ARM System Ready IR certificate. I recognize that the latest Debian 11 (Bullseye) has the ke

Re: GnuPG 2.4 before Trixie freeze

2024-09-24 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 24/09/2024 14:43, Stephan Verbücheln ha scritto: Hello everyone Debian Trixie and Sid still have GnuPG 2.2.x. GnuPG 2.4.5 is available in Experimental. GnuPG 2.4.0 was released on December 20, 2022. The 2.4.x series has various useful new features such as TPM support. Is it realistic to get

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

2024-11-18 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 18/11/2024 01:04, Otto Kekäläinen ha scritto: Hi all, I published a complete rewrite of the earlier draft as: https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/12 DEP-18: Encourage Continuous Integration and Merge Request based Collaboration for Debian packages If you a

Re: Why are cinnamon-core and cinnamon-desktop-environment still in version 6.2?

2025-02-05 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 05/02/2025 12:19, kindusmith ha scritto: In Debian 13, all components of cinnamon have been upgraded to 6.4 or above, but cinnamon-core and cinnamon-desktop-environment are still lower versions of 6.2 Hi, I haven't made the new version of those metapackages yet because at the moment it wou

Recommended remote access software for cinnamon-desktop-environment - was (Why are cinnamon-core and cinnamon-desktop-environment still in version 6.2?)

2025-02-05 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 05/02/2025 12:58, kindusmith ha scritto: 在 2025/2/5 19:44, Fabio Fantoni 写道: Il 05/02/2025 12:19, kindusmith ha scritto: In Debian 13, all components of cinnamon have been upgraded to 6.4 or above, but cinnamon-core and cinnamon-desktop-environment are still lower versions of 6.2 Hi, I

Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-01-11 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 11/01/2025 16:38, Ahmad Khalifa ha scritto: On 11/01/2025 12:49, Fabio Fantoni wrote: Write on Google "Debian create new package" and first result: https:// wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian It points to various parts but mainly the more probable start point s

Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-01-11 Thread Fabio Fantoni
There has been a lot of talk about attracting and helping new maintainers, some improvements have been made "here and there", the documentation of gbp (the most used tool) has been improved, salsa, salsa-ci have been improved, there is discussion about DEP18, accepting DEP14 etc... Having mos

Re: Let's make 2025 a year when code reviews became common in Debian

2025-01-24 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 24/01/2025 15:26, Christoph J. Scherr ha scritto: On Fri, 2025-01-24 at 13:05 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Hi Christoph, Quoting Christoph J. Scherr (2025-01-24 12:13:16) Hello, As someone just starting out with Debian, I'd like to share my perspective on this discussion. I only recentl

Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?

2025-01-24 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 24/01/2025 22:24, Xiyue Deng ha scritto: Fabio Fantoni writes: ... There is also another thing to consider, if you keep a generic one as default it always points to the latest version, while a specific one might not be the latest version and if the contributors do not check well the

Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?

2025-01-24 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 24/01/2025 23:12, Soren Stoutner ha scritto: On Friday, January 24, 2025 9:50:10 AM MST Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Thanks everyone for sharing your viewpoints, it is interesting to read! > > I feel I need to clarify that I am not a native English speaker and my > intent was to write a polit

Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?

2025-01-24 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 24/01/2025 14:25, Tobias Frost ha scritto: Am Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 09:16:50AM +0300 schrieb Michael Tokarev: 24.01.2025 04:06, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: 3. "latest" is a misnomer (unlike "main" or "master"). For example, I often use "experimental" branch which is more recent than "master",

Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?

2025-01-24 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 24/01/2025 02:06, Otto Kekäläinen ha scritto: Hi! Current https://dep-team.pages.debian.net/deps/dep14/ states that the default Debian branch name is 'debian/latest': In Debian this means that uploads to unstable and experimental should be prepared either in the debian/latest branch or res

Re: Is Salsa CI easy to use for anyone learning Debian packaging?

2024-12-25 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 23/12/2024 18:09, Otto Kekäläinen ha scritto: Hi! Salsa CI is a great system for all aspiring Debian packagers to test their packages before requesting review from mentors, and also for experienced packagers to ensure there are no easily testable lapses before uploading to Debian. Anyone wit

Re: Why are cinnamon-core and cinnamon-desktop-environment still in version 6.2?

2025-02-08 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 08/02/2025 15:18, Andrew M.A. Cater ha scritto: On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 12:44:31PM +0100, Fabio Fantoni wrote: Il 05/02/2025 12:19, kindusmith ha scritto: In Debian 13, all components of cinnamon have been upgraded to 6.4 or above, but cinnamon-core and cinnamon-desktop-environment are

Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades

2025-03-06 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 06/03/2025 09:43, Holger Levsen ha scritto: On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 08:39:43PM -0500, Helmut K. C. Tessarek wrote: Both network "outages" could have been prevented by adding a note at the end of the dist-upgrade output. they could also have been prevented by reading the release notes and fol

Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades

2025-03-05 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 05/03/2025 02:39, Helmut K. C. Tessarek ha scritto: This is my first mail in a Debian mailing list and I hope I've chosen the correct one. There are way too many lists thus please direct me to the correct one, in case I messed up. I would like to make a suggestion for release upgrades. It s