Recommended remote access software for cinnamon-desktop-environment - was (Why are cinnamon-core and cinnamon-desktop-environment still in version 6.2?)

[Fabio Fantoni]

Il 05/02/2025 12:58, kindusmith ha scritto:

在 2025/2/5 19:44, Fabio Fantoni 写道:

Il 05/02/2025 12:19, kindusmith ha scritto:

In Debian 13, all components of cinnamon have been upgraded to 6.4 or above, but cinnamon-core and cinnamon-desktop-environment are still lower versions of 6.2

Hi, I haven't made the new version of those metapackages yet because at the moment it would only be a version bump of the cinnamon components, I should first do some tests of clean installations to check if it is necessary to modify other parts.

Does anyone have any advice on this?

For now I know that I should remove vino from the recommended ones but I don't know exactly which remote access system would be best to replace it with. gnome-remote-desktop would be good, but unfortunately it has parts tied to gnome, x2goserver which is now an alternative to vino seems to me to be poorly supported (from a quick look, I could be wrong) and if I remember correctly it is active by default at installation so it might not be a great choice, regarding xrdp and others I had tried something many years ago, but I am not up to date.

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sudo apt install x11vnc



 Conclusion


On Debian 13 + Cinnamon, x11vnc is recommended instead of Vino.

On the Cinnamon desktop, x11vnc is more recommended because it is Xorg compatible and more stable: You can then connect to your Debian 13 machine using a VNC client (such as Remmina). Vino is a VNC server for GNOME but is not available by default on Cinnamon. If you still want to use Vino, you can install it manually, but Cinnamon may not be able to call it directly. Do you want remote access to your Debian 13 + Cinnamon desktop? If so, I can help you configure a more appropriate method!

Thanks for reply, I would prefer some answers from human experts rather than one from an automated system limited by its own algorithm, acquired data and other factors. As I wrote in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1094885#17 for the replacement I was aiming for an optimal choice given by various factors:

In fact, on the remote access part things are not well done, I had
searched a time ago, but I had not found optimal solutions,
well-supported, simple (also for inexperienced users) and that support
both xorg and wayland, there would be gnome-remote-desktop, but
unfortunately it is tied to mutter and some parts specific to gnome.

I haven't had time to do any in-depth research and testing recently (and I don't know if I'll have enough), so any advice would be appreciated. Since wayland support of cinnamon is experimental and incomplete, I could also replace it with a specific software for xorg for now (and for Debian 13). But it would be useful to find something also supported by wayland as part of the wayland support that is slowly progressing also in cinnamon. As Jeremy Bícha also wrote "VNC protocol it is not very secure by default" in #1094885and so I tried to keep it as a "secondary choice" but if there were no good enough alternatives I could still evaluate vnc, for example with x11vnc (although just seeing that the last upstream version dates back to 6 years ago leaves me a bit doubtful, I haven't looked into more detail though, I'll see deep if someone don't recommend better choices).

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