ey're kinda weird. initramfs-tools installs
proper hooks there, at least since 0.93.2.
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> On Sun, May 03 2009, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
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>> David Paleino wrote:
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>>> * The image postinst no longer runs the initramfs creation
>>> commands. Instead, there are example scripts provided that will
>>> perform t
iable names
upstream may be using, otherwise you'd add new problems while adding new vars.
>
>
> So I think for next dpkg upload we should make dpkg-buildpackage stop
> setting any flags by default, and switch the setting to go through the
Please do so!
+1 from m
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are there any plans to adopt
https://code.launchpad.net/vmbuilder
for Debian?
Being able to create ec2, vmware or similar images easily would be nice to have
for Debian, too.
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very well there. Its not really possible to use such restrictions on the
mailtainer contact mail, though.
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If nobody will step up and help out, the package will be orphaned.
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> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:11:44PM -0500, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
>> Does update-menus really need bash? Why?
>
> pipefail is actually a fairly useful bashism.
Use mispipe from moreutils instead.
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is imho way too long and frustrating
for all involved people. I would prefer a solution which involves the
ctte only if there is no other way.
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On 04/19/2012 05:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz writes:
>
>> That would require that the tech-ctte's decisions do not take months or
>> years. They are fast if they really need to be, but in such general
>> cases the time a descision takes is imho way to
modified) creates the relevant device
> nodes, etc).
And udev does this jus fine, I don't need systemd or whatever else on
top of that.
> I agree that automatically mounting usb sticks or such on servers would
> be more than silly, and haven't suggested that (neither have the u
dencies the same as insserv?
> How about old scripts lacking dependency info? Are the dependencies
> computed dynamically or generated? (insserv hooks into update-rc.d)
>
>
> Regards,
> Roger
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about it before doing anything. If anyone fancies
> doing the packaging, I'll be happy to join in. I'll probably be able
> to provide a better overview once I know a bit more.
>
>
> Regards,
> Roger
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>> time could disrupt the boot then I think that most people would consider it
>> as
>> ready for a release.
>>
> Especially considering that we can fix stuff in Stable
> if the release team agrees...
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> package like those listed above that needs the network to loop and retry
> if the network isn't available when it first starts. This is a huge waste
> of effort.
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do something after your
devices appear, use udev. As traffic yo your iscsi disk will be queued in case
the connection gets lost there is also no need to find something new to handle
link up/down events. If your link is gone forever there is a broken filesystem
and some stuck IO fun
gt;>
>> udev is just the reference implementation. mdev [part of busybox] can do
>> the same (modulo rules: it has a slightly simpler format that doesn't
>> provide exactly the same features (yet))
> [...]
>
> Sure, for Linux in general you have other options like mde
On 04/29/2012 04:11 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 14:59 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 04/27/2012 03:28 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 08:55 +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote:
>>>> On 04/27/12 03:32, Adam Borowski wrote:
>>&g
if they are not
>> fitting.
>
> Er, what? Please don't throw out silly strawmen...
Stephan's points are valid. Just having a link on your favourite cisco does not
mean that you are allowed to send packets anywhere yet. Getting a ipv6 address
via radvd d
ure
with debconf for the "normal" user - and that is what counts. Those who
know what they want/need also know how to install exactly that.
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try to find a consensus about which program will have to be renamed. If
a consensus cannot be reached, both programs must be renamed.
And this is - looking at this way too long thread - the best solution
for this issue imho.
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Hi,
although I think the wordpress maintainer are doing all they can do to keep
wordpress in a good shape in Debian, I do not think that it is possible
installations is that the
debian packages are too old to be really useful. Most plugins seem to require
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> it's still better than fighting with integrating quilt with a VCS (in
> which case, everyone with a higher number of patches would go back to
> 1.0 and custom patching systems and ignore every other benefit of 3.0,
> because quilt and VCS generally don'
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On 05/18/2012 11:37 AM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 09:24:04AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 05/17/2012 04:52 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
>>>> I'm confused concerning the above; the point of a VCS in thi
t be relevant to Debian since we have it in Debian and
> even have a mailing list dedicated to it:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-lsb/
>
> Apparently LSB 5.0 will drop the Qt3 requirement:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-lsb/2012/02/msg9.html
Then we should either
r home.
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>
> PS. An RFP, perhaps?
Better look into packaging gitlabhq.
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documentation are you talking about? Most official documentation
should have a fixed URL.
If you are talking about the wiki: retrieving a fixed version from
moinmoin is the same as in mediawiki.
So I can't see a useful argument here, only FUD trying to talk people
into using Mediawiki.
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> which is lacking when maintainer is outside of Debian.
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ul input on how to fix
an obviously broken (since years!) process instead of trying to forcibly
trying to choke down people who actively want to improve Debian. Welcome
to the dictatorship of the TC.
> [...]
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On 05/31/2012 04:57 PM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> On 31/05/12 15:11, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 05/31/2012 03:03 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
>>> [...]
>>
>>> A hijack is, by definition, a declaration by the hijacker that
>>> they believe they are not answera
On 05/31/2012 06:25 PM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> On 31/05/12 18:15, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>>
>> Part of the common and established procedure is to mail d-devel if
>> you intend to hijack a package
>
> True, but it is _not_ common (nor acceptable) to let only 2-3 days fo
just nobody uses it anymore because it is too old? 'Please package
the current upstream version'-bugs are wishlist only, unfortunately.
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also an active maintainer which is able to
refer such cases to the TC by himself, there is no need to crowd-source this.
> As for the TC never having removed a maintainer against their will: I think
> the TC is institutionally conservative by design, and will tend to favor the
> s
I couldn't get it to bridge from my wifi to the ethernet port.
>
[...]
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package with
various uploaders (from a team...) got DM upload permissions and the other team
members became DMs later - obviously they got the same permissions then as soon
as they were in the Keyring.
Which bad things happened that we have to change the current process?
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I don't think that your case is special enough to add yet an extra
option to dpkg-source. I have two packages where I'm changing much more
than the build-dependencies automatically, for example.
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On 06/14/2012 11:04 AM, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Hi Bernd,
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 14.06.2012, 10:32 +0200 schrieb Bernd Zeimetz:
>>> I would like to see more flexibility in dpkg-source as to where the
>>> effective build depends come from. My use case are (as y
t;Source Code: irqbalance-0.56.tar.bz2 (28Kb)
>>
>> ?
>
> The project home page moved. The old one is out of date.
And that is mentioned where?
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7;t just
> freeze on the current slang but ship the
> broken environment.
Try gcc/g++ 4.6 instead of 4.7. Maybe check if "S-Lang load path" (wherever that
is stored) is initialized in a sane way. I had a similar issue where an integer
was 0 all the time - although not being initialized
bugs on the version in Squeeze, while Peter
Palfrader (weasel) took care of Tor related things and Debian sysadmin work,
including starting on the new bugs and udd hosts. Phillip Hug (hug) worked on
the debian.ch infrastructure.
Together with Miroslav Suchý from Red Hat Bernd Zeimetz (bzed) worked
#x27;t see a reason
why we should not use it. It is much more pain free to use than any
other solution we have in Debian.
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On 06/21/2012 02:55 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> Seriously, thats all fine stuff, but if having a hangout with 10+ people
>> on google+ helps Debian to get the bugs squashed, I can't see a reason
>> why we should not use it. It
ake the free software to do it with freedom.
Exactly. Or we can even use a hangout to develope a replacement for the
google+ hangout. :)
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> There were quite some bugs with that tool AFAIR. Does it also cover
> things that are not supported by Canonical? How does the development and
> testing of the tool work?
I think we can do better than having to rely on a weird tool to fix the issues
we produced by not d
to fix the
issues in wheezy.
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On 06/25/2012 06:45 PM, YunQiang Su wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 06/25/2012 09:49 AM, Simon McVittie wrote:
>>> On 25/06/12 06:07, YunQiang Su wrote:
>>>> 1. upload 2.0 to experimental, and unstable users should install it
ore easy to maintain than all the
other crap^Winit systems (including insserv) floating around.
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hows your issue in two lines - did you look if that file actually exists
or resides somewhere else?
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I'm not 100% sure about that
:) And the openssl source is expected to contain the openssl source.
Otherwise I think it might be worth to integraet such a check into the
qa tools Debian runs regularity.
Thanks for your work!
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oken? I think we had
some rare cases over the last years which were discussed and solved. Do we
really need that extra work of introducing tokens?
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d usually something's gone wrong.
>> It's _good_ to inform the whole project about it. It is educational and
>> keeps the voting population informed.
>
> Definitely, +1.
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g with aliases and sign your mails or use
your real name and email address at least.
What I think is that you know that well and you are just lying. Yet
another reason to ask the listmasters to ban you.
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t is even more
insane than what recent windows versions require. Can we please have a sane
default desktop for people with older hardware? Maybe just chosen in d-i,
depending on the hardware.
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t is IMHO also
> mature
> as Distributions like OpenSuse or Fedora ship systemd per default.
I would not consider stuff Fedora ships as mature. Fedora is a nice
testbed for stuff that will get into RedHat some years later, and a nice
distro for those who like the latest shiniest bugg
r-suid-wrapper: open-vm-tools open-vm-toolbox
They even build from the same source yet another thing to fix for
Wheezy.
> ptest: pacemaker parmetis-test
> siggen: siggen tripwire
> tcpd: tcm tcpd
> vuname: util-vserver umview
>
> Any volunteers to file bugs?
>
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tories to $PATH in $SHELLrc/profile/
Experienced users should be able to do this easily. And those who don't
knwo what to do with the tools in */sbin/* probably don't want/need them
in $PATH.
So I think at least for now its just fine to have the directories and
PATH settings separa
would
have been shipped with wheezy anyway.
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their original source (yet another copy of...) and everybody would be happy.
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missing essential pieces of the software, so people who download it for
non-Debian usage will fail to run the shipped source just because we
removed an otherwise free piece of software.
> [0] “The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
> incl
upstream seems to be
pretty active these days.
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> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012, Luca Falavigna wrote:
>> 2012/8/17 Bernd Zeimetz :
>>> But it usually does and also results in a source tarball which is
>>> missing essential pieces of the software, so people who dow
work for you out of the box (and you have the
recommended packages installed), file a bug.
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tation,
> which would be a disgrace.
So far I can see nothing that would make me feel limited by openrc.
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pen source software because I want to to be able
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a full texlive installation while
installing a tiny nagios plugin), file a bug.
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licitly endorsing the work on more
>> exotic ports to stop this derogatory, impolite and contraproductive
>> behavior.
>
> I'd second it, in exactly that hope.
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didn't find such things?
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On 09/17/2012 12:49 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:59:44AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 09/17/2012 11:56 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
>>> Modifying conffiles is forbidden by policy 10.7.3
>> Well, conffiles are sometimes modified due to the resul
On 09/17/2012 01:18 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Sep 17, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>
>> So we shall drop things like automatic configuration of postfix? It
>> actually even asks the user if the config file should be modified. That
>> is just one example of a lot others t
On 09/17/2012 01:57 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 01:24:51PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> Oh well yes, bad example. We still have a lot of packages which modify
>> /etc/default/* with debconf. Portmap, sysstat, ... - and they are
>> supposed to be conff
Are there any objections other than "but I like it this way!"?
Are there new reasons other that 'I don't like it this way' ?
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atically added when a
user starts icedove or $fav_mua
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I
being to stupid to show all the settings in a useful way. I'd guess the card has
several pcm channels, all wih their own chorus/reverb/ settings - so the gui
could group then properly and show nice buttons
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ome mirrors into trouble - is it
possible to push the mirrors with high bandwith more often than those with
bandwith issues?
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it might be possible
that the ascii version just works well for older postgres versions, you might
end up with needed pg_restore form 9.x just becuase you dumped it with it.
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gish time, but something like
dist.target = foobar.tar.gz
dist.commands = git archive --useful-options
dist.depends = .git
QMAKE_EXTRA_TARGETS += dist
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go without saying that embedding a new upstream
> release in a patch just to get a such "carte blanche" exception is also
> considered abuse.
What about bugfix point-releases from upstream, like postgres and other sane
upstreams do it?
thanks & cheers,
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gt;> -O3 (in that order) compiles code in -O3, which is way too much AFAIK.
>>
>> Ref: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Optimize-Options.html ... If you
>> use multiple -O options, with or without level numbers, the last such
>> option is the one that is effective. ...
>
ained and the upstream project is not
>> very active either.
>
> I do, but I don't have any hardware that only has 1 button so I
> currently don't have problems with it.
Same here. And I'm happy to have it, being able to copy and paste stuff is
sometimes really useful.
but I don't see that building pps-tools failed, at least its not in the list. Am
I missing something or is there just something confused about the right order to
build packages?
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t; to sqweek.dnsdojo.org from pages like
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/9mount ?
Its generated from the information in the control file of the last
uploaded version - the way to change it would be to upload a fixed package.
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On 10/09/2011 03:26 PM, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Does anybody know some way to bind an action to the button
> most usb sata docking stations come with?
please ask on debian-user, which is a much more appropriate list for
such questions.
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ot;jimtcl". Although it's probably smaller.
As network-manager is the reason why usb-modeswitch is in the default desktop
install (which makes sense) - does size really matter here? NM pull in a lot of
libraries and tools, without checking it I'd guess that adding tcl or jim
Do not use TOFU on Debian lists. It just makes a mess.
On 10/29/2011 09:55 PM, Dallas Clement wrote:
> How can I link with libc6-dbg instead of regular libc6? Thanks.
http://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace
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epends also mean that we diverge from
upstream? I don't think so. And I believe that NM should not be something gnome
should depend on as there are various other ways to configure your network. Imho
it should Recommend network-manage | wicd-gtk | similar-tools-if-they-exist.
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> i believe a way of installing network-manager, but disabling it
> completly would be enough for many people.
Although harddisk space is cheap these days, this should not be the preferred
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On 11/01/2011 11:23 PM, Josh Triplett wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> And I believe that NM should not be something gnome should depend on as
>> there are various other ways to configure your network. Imho it should
>> Recommend network-manage | wicd-gtk | similar-tools-if-t
.
How the source is distributed does not matter. Please don't abuse this
for yet another dpkg 3.0 git discussion.
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nto conflict.
I think we should for these cases where it is obvious that one software
exists for a much longer time than the other. We should not force old
projects to rename themselves just because the developers of a new
project did not investigate if they use an existing name. Checking
filenames of
ill
be orphaned soon and I'll file bugs to remove it from the packages which
build-depend on it.
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On 12/03/2011 05:33 PM, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> - Ubuntu splitted the package and applied various changes without getting in
>> contact with their Debian upstream about it. I'm not willing to try to figure
>
gt; was going on and how he could help, if he had approached me saying that
> Debian sucks.
Yes, I'm glad too that he didn't experience the same issue with about 50% of the
packages he uses as he would think in a different way then.
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Bernd ZeimetzDe
yes, you could even fork (its open source!) a dh_install package - or
instead of wasting ftp master resources, just ship your own dh_install script in
your debian folders.
I'll happily use the new dh_install feature instead of whining.
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Bernd ZeimetzDeb
On 12/09/2011 07:42 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz writes:
>
>> On 12/07/2011 11:47 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>>> Now that we’ve made incredible progress in terms of obfuscation, I’d
>>> appreciate if we could have a working solution that does
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