On 05/30/2012 11:11 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 12-05-30 at 11:30am, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> We aren't kicking him, we want to have the package team maintained. >> He's fine to come and join! > > You want to play by your rules (file), not his. That's kicking to me. > > >> This doesn't really qualify for an NMU, nor does the upgrade to the >> latest upstream version. > > *nothing* qualifies for a hijacking. > > With hijacking I mean disrespectful takeover. > > Either respect maintainership by only NMUing, or respectfully resolve > with the Debian community that the current maintainer is unfit for the > task. You do the latter but instead of the normal use of MIA tracking > you use Debian freeze as argument for swift takeover. I find it not > respectful to rush processing like that!
I don't think that hijacking is *that* bad, especially not when its done by a team which welcomes the original maintainer. It is better to have a well maintained package than to ait for somebody who collected a number of NMUs and doesn't react to bug reports for years. > I am not at all surprised that this is yet another sponsored package > bit-rotting. Personally I never liked how we allow maintainer to be > someone not in Debian: There is too great a risk of drive-by > contributions :-( You and a lot of others fail to realize that the *SPONSOR* is responsible for the package. If the maintainer fails to keep the package in a useful shape it is the sponsor's responsibility to do so. And last but not least it should be the sponsor's decision to orphan a package if the maintainer is MIA or not doing his job properly. It is also the sponsors responsibility to try to figure out if a maintainer is willing to do his job longer than one upload before sponsoring a package at all. > ...but we should not improve quality of packages by relaxing the respect > of the maintainer. We should hold maintainers responsible to their > actions - and that is only really possible to do with "social pride" > which is lacking when maintainer is outside of Debian. Yet another job for the sponsor. -- Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer http://bzed.de http://www.debian.org GPG Fingerprint: ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fc71c48.7070...@bzed.de
