> As I understand it, the plan was to convert auric into a buildd but
> the RAID needs to be fixed. Ben Collins was looking into this but I
> don't know about the status. I've also heard discussions several
> months ago about using one of Ben's really fast machines.
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 11:04:42AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Also, this will make two ultrasparc machines available for some of our new
> > sparc developers. I can't pay to ship them, but if Debian foots the bill,
> > I&#x
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 04:10:49PM +, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project
Leader wrote:
> * Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-15 11:04]:
> > > Also, this will make two ultrasparc machines available for some of our new
> > > sparc developers. I can't pay to ship them, but if Debian foots
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 11:17:54AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > * Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-15 11:04]:
> > > > Also, this will make two ultrasparc machines available for some of our
> > > > new
> > > > spar
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 11:20:07AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > We can move services to supported architectures, but there is of
> > course one major problem: DSA is only willing to host stable .d.o
> > boxes but if many architectures don't
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:44:49PM -0800, Blars Blarson wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
> >I have an e3500 to replace both auric and vore (and the raid), but I
> >haven't gotten an ok from James to do so yet.
>
> That would cut the number of sparc buildds down to one, when two a
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 04:31:19PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:44:49PM -0800, Blars Blarson wrote:
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
> > > >I have an e3500
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 06:11:39PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The requirement sucks, lets leave it at that. If the machine dies, I can
> > have two to replace it within a day or two.
> >
> > The point
herrings, and just get back to work. Sparc has always
been and always will be a maintained architecture.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:17:42PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Ok, I can guarantee that it never dies. The ha
Vore isn't down.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 10:54:18AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050317 03:25]:
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 04:31:19PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > > Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
Read my previous replies.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 11:01:07AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050317 10:54]:
> > Ah, so why is vore down now for some time now? If it's so easy to
>
> that should read as auric of course.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Andi
hould Debian be allowed to distribute
Linux if it can't handle these kinds of things?
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 12:31:14AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:32:37PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 06:11:39PM -08
went down for an extended period, but I do recall some
(m68k) having problems simply because of lack of processing power.
The guidelines are aimed at the wrong thing is my point.
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 12:23:58PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
It's also not something that would totally destroy an architecture's
ability to release. Yes, it would be bad, but not the end of the world.
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 02:36:12PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I
> For sparc, a second buildd was brought on-line on auric this year because
> (IIRC) vore was not keeping up with the upload volume at the time; this
> required effort on DSA's part to clear enough disk space to be able to run a
> buildd, until which time sparc was holding some RC bugfixes out of t
> I don't know why you're asking me; I've already said that I would consider
> this configuration acceptable for a release architecture, but that I
> wouldn't recommend it to the Sparc porters.
What do you mean "wouldn't recommend it to the sparc porters"? And what
does your recommendation count f
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 12:49:29PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> On 21 Sep 1999, Ruud de Rooij wrote:
>
> > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > So, what, if anything, is being built with egcs?
> >
> > Nothing, since egcs does not exist in the distribution anymore.
>
> Well, egcs
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 09:40:21AM +0800, Mikolaj J. Habryn wrote:
> Hmm - it strikes me that there may be a potential problem with
> including .la archives with library packages. The filename for the
> libtool file is independent of the version number of the library. ie,
> libfish2 will ship wit
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 09:54:10AM +0800, Mikolaj J. Habryn wrote:
> >>>>> "BC" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> BC> No because the .la files only go into the -dev package for the
> BC> library,
>
> Section 4.2
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 09:53:45AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 07:32:50AM -0500, Ashley Clark wrote:
> > Couldn't sash include a PAM module that would change the password to
> > match root's password whenever it was changed? Or am I oversimplifying
> > things?
>
> I don't h
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 04:22:31PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
> Quoting BugScan reporter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Bug stamp-out list for Sep 24 00:06 (CST)
> >
> > Total number of release-critical bugs: 263
> > Number that will disappear after removing packages marked [REMOVE]: 12
> >
> >
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 01:46:18AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
>
> So, if you're getting a Perl binary that's 0600, it's either you, apt-get,
> or dpkg.
More specifically it is dpkg doing the breaking, but it's perl's fault on
how it is setting everything up.
You will note that these
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 02:42:28AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
> I notice that bash doesn't do any shenanigans like this. Is this a
> relic of bygone days and I don't need to do this funky stuff anymore?
> That would make things much easier for me.
Nothing to do but test :)
Ben
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 03:00:35AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
> > I inherited this when I inherited the package in November of 1995. It
> > was setup this way so that after the removal of the previous Perl
> > package and before the installation of a new Perl package
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 12:15:07AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote:
> Package: fileutils (main)
> Maintainer: Galen Hazelwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 39680 "rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty" still fails, it only suppresses
> the message
bbs:~# rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty /var || echo not empt
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:16:03PM -0700, Ryan Murray wrote:
> > restrictive); see below for details.
> >
> > [ RSA is no longer included. ]
> > [ IDEA is no longer included. ]
>
> IDEA was the only part of ssh that made it non-free, prohibiting
> commercial use.
Wrong, RSA makes it non-free, an
This may sound silly, but in fact, glibc does not support shadow groups[1]
(I'm not sure if we ever had this support), yet the shadow programs attempt
to use it. For example we convert the group file to shadow, even though glibc
does not contain the calls to get this info. If you look at the shadow
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 01:28:53AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 06:53:18PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > This may sound silly, but in fact, glibc does not support shadow groups[1]
>
> Indeed. I think we can drop this idea altogether. How many people do
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 05:35:11PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> Thomas Schoepf wrote:
> > this is a perl script I've written, because I was fed up with manually
> > fetching bug reports and storing them into a directory structure so that
> > browsing still works. Now, when I type 'buglist -r -d ~/debi
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 12:08:13PM +0200, Thomas Schoepf wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:13:56PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
>
> > On the same subject I invite everyone to test out "getbugs" which is at
> > http://www.debian.org/~bcollins/getbugs.pl. It's a Net:
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 04:36:58PM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Joey Hess wrote:
>
> > Thomas Schoepf wrote:
> > > Have you tried Ben's getbugs.pl? Is it good enough?
> >
> > I looked at it briefly, but it seemsed very slow. wget is easier.
>
> I get:
>
> Error: IO::Socke
I haven't been able to keep up with failed builds for the sparc buildd
daemon. So I'm asking for help (from maintainers and users alike) with
checking the logs and finding solutions (some are fairly simple, just
let me know). If you need access to a sparc for testing, all developers
have access to
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:02:57PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the
> subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the
> build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here is what I get:
>
> ---
On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 03:53:13PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Ben Collins wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 11:59:41AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> >
> > > If we drop perl-5.004, is there a good reason why we do need to rename
> >
mental support
in the dpkg CVS tree (seperate branch I have been working on).
Just give it some time.
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work out the pcmcia kinks. There is nothing wrong with 2.2. What I want is
2.2.15 in potato, nothing more.
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m...not be able to say "hey, my dist has 2.4.x kernels and yours
doesn't".
Yes, we could supply the source, yes we could have the disclaimer...but
why? I have not seen any good reason other than "so we can have it in
there". Technically there is nothing in 2.[34].x that 99
lly doable thing.
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ose nifty new things to put into woody.
Ben
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ts on features
that are incomplete. We've had this problem in the past, we don't want to
get into again.
Ben
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Sorry that you had to resort to this, it will be fixed soon enough.
Ben
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On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:01:15PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:08:43AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > Woody should be running 2.3 or pre-2.4. That should have been among
> > > the first things to change.
> >
> > We are knee deep in
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 04:13:52PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Ben> Next time please email me with correct version numbers and
> Ben> explain things a little better, other than ju
sor that will validate and upload
your packages for you. I suggest emailing debian-mentor to see if any
other HAM people would be willing to take you under their wing.
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Debian developers. My concerns, and the concerns of anyone who decides to
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We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free-software
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they keeping up with packages on security.debian.org meant
specifically for the stable release?
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On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:24:29AM -0700, John Galt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Ben Collins wrote:
>
>
> > First of all, you need to check your numbers. Last I checked there were
> > ~350 official developers in the keyring. Right, so this proves my point in
> &g
the conffile
questions. If there is no default, it will still prompt (not likely), so
you can also add --force-confold, so that if there is no default, it will
choose to keep the old conffile.
Problem solved :)
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Like I said though, I am not messing with any of this until potato is
released.
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iner: Ean R. Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 59420 kaffe_1:1.0.5e-0.3(frozen): bad register names on m68k
> 59575 kaffe: jit3 not supported on sparc build
I've NMU'd a package which fixes both of these, last night.
> Package: libpam-modules (debian/main)
> Ma
2.3.14_i386.deb
> > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
This looks like a system problem. Looks like gzip is getting killed (the
Broken Pipe). What kernel is this person running?
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line and send me the dpkg-deb.out file.
Ben
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On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 10:09:07AM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote:
> >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Package: prc-tools (debian/main) Maintainer: Stephen Zander
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 51647 prc-tools: fai
On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 02:05:44PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote:
> Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > try running:
> >
> > dpkg-deb --extract man.deb /tmp/tmpdir
> >
> > If that fails too, then add "strace -o dpkg-deb.out" to the start of that
> Maintainer: Martin Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 60536 xview: compile expects sparc to be sunos
Will NMU shortly.
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easier to keep just the one debian-devel-changes list to send to and write
some extra procmail stuff into sending it to the write outlist.
Ben
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tory of release-critical bugs for smail until just
> before the release... is Soenke reading this, or has anyone contacted
> him?
KILL SMAIL :)
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below is the needed change, and I've had to do it
many times when we made the move to glibc 2.1 on sparc. It is correct, and
portable.
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rtain to system administration (and
traceroute is for troubleshooting networks) is to be in /sbin or
/usr/sbin. The difference between /sbin and /usr/sbin is that things that
could be needed to rescue a broken system should be in /sbin (things like
fsck).
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or the
work they have been doing.
Ben
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e current debian source, get
it checked over by some knowledgable folks, and then have at it.
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-12(frozen): build error (undefined symbols)
> 60530 scalapack: fails to build on sparc
Checking into this as I write this email.
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at isn't working, you'de get better
results.
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is fine, else glibc, openldapd, PAM, etc..would have to be removed
for their password hashing.
Ben
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Sorry, simple reply for the sake of testing out poor mail server.
Ben
and upload it
to non-US. IMO, this is perfectly legitimate, but who knows for sure.
Given that RedHat now includes GnuPG in it's 6.2 distribution, I'm
thinking he can do it.
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How about instead of killing processes, just want the user if such a
situation exists using the same check?
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> > 55268 [Strategy: use older version on alpha] PDL fails to compile on alpha
>
> Likewise?
Couldn't be more wrong. Bugs are bugs...a package with a serious bug on a
supported arch, affects that package period, no matter what arch you are
talking abo
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:02:46PM -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
> According to Ben Collins:
> > On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 11:12:27AM -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
> > > May I assume that the latter two bugs will not delay the release of
> > > potato for i386?
> >
I've forwarded these two packages to the ftp masters. Since they truly do
depend on gap4 being installed, they will not have their deps met for
potato. Woody on the other hand...
Anyhow, they should be removed.
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> Package: ivtools (debian/main)
> Maintainer: Guenter Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 57250 ivtools_0.7.9-5(frozen): build errors
Changelog for 0.7.9-6 says this is fixed, so I've closed it.
Ben
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> Maintainer: Ean R. Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 59420 kaffe_1:1.0.5e-0.3(frozen): bad register names on m68k
NMU'ing this one (again)
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> 61389 silo: newer version available for better cd boot support
Maintianer asked me to NMU, already done and in incoming.
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 08:19:39PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Ben Collins wrote:
>
> > > Package: gap4-doc-dvi (debian/non-free)
> > > Maintainer: Markus Hetzmannseder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > 60695 gap4-doc-dvi depends on nonexis
x27;s a bit hard for me to
> work on this. An NMU would be greatly appreciated. Otherwise, I'll do
> my best to get this fixed sometime this weekend.
Build in progress, will be uploaded soon.
Ben
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ossible fix to this program a few days ago. The problem
> is that various versions of sane and xsane were not compiled with the
> appropriate libgimp libraries on non-i386 platforms.
Which gimp libraries should they be using?
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On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 06:42:59PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 10:09:30PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > Similarly, I have packaged devfsd
> > > (http://www.atnf.csiro.au/~rgooch/linux/).
> > > This one still needs a couple of problems
hat versions of these tools are being used?
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that.
I assume the libc is not part of glibc at all, so that most likely needs
to be its own package.
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ot sure how they handle
non-US and non-free.
Ben
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m (try installing the kernel again to
test).
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rchs. That way we don't slow up everyone else because of slow
testers.
4) From here, things should be handled a lot better AFA mirroring (before
being made world readable to the public), but I'll leave that to the
debian-cd folks to decide how to make that better.
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On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 07:43:48PM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote:
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> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote:
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> > I've gotten reports that the ISO for CD#1 on sparc is completely broken.
> > Although the packages and dist files are there, the CD will not boot,
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ed him about the ones I did, and he responded. Why must our
packages take a step back!?
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sion from more people because it FAILS to build and IS broken.
I bet you didn't even try to get the source patches incorporated upstream.
Roman Hodek took quite a bit of debug and test time to track down the m68k
errors, and now that you blew off that, it probably wont build on there
anymore
ention of
comments :)
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e for network based
clients.
As far as your situation, if you installed the same version as the
original kernel, then it replaced that package.
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way, so if anything is going to break, it's most
likely going to be my fault :)
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"eye
candy".
When I go to the Debian webpage, I want answers and information, and I
think most people feel the same way.
Ben
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ssion. It
saved a grand total of 197 megs from 1.5gigs. Roughly 15% at a quick
guess. This wouldn't even drop us down a single CD.
We have new things in the upcoming dpkg, one of those being to support
bzip2 in the package format. However, I don't see it being used in
Debian's
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 12:54:34AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Ben" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> Ben> Well, IMO, anything that goes on the Debian website better be
> Ben> created by free software. No offense, but if I start
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:09:27PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote:
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> > > > Yeah, but I guess it would take about twice the time to unpack. Please
> > > > don't do that to my poor 486 :-((
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> > > But extra size =
stem trying to handle dpkg, much less
dpkg+bzip2).
Ben
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ttle loss of space over straight .bz2. A new format
and hacking is not needed for you to use this already (packages doing this
need to Build-Depend on bzip2).
Ben
[1]: Also check openldap, shadow and pam for the same style setups. Yes,
it's sort of a hack, but it's a clean hack and the
> > [1]: Also check openldap, shadow and pam for the same style setups. Yes,
> > it's sort of a hack, but it's a clean hack and the system provides much
> > more than a way to package up .bz2 tarballs.
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> I'll avoid that hack as much as I can... =)
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