Hello,
On Mon 10 Mar 2025 at 06:54pm +01, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Dear fellow developers,
>
> As defined by our constitution (§6.2.2), the Debian Technical Committee
> has recommended the appointment to the committee of:
>
> * Paul Tagliamonte
>
> I agree with their recommendation, and hereby a
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 11:56:28AM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
I still haven't heard arguments why people refuse to use an installer
that comes with non-free firmware, asks whether this firmware should
be used, and if answered "no", none of this non-free firmware ends up
in the installed system
On 10.03.25 00:39, Michel Lind wrote:
It should not fail in sbuilder or pbuilder, but just in case I can explicitly
disable Python bindings from being built so it’s easier to do a test build
Please do. Packages shouldn't build differently (or not at all)
depending on whether some random not-m
On 09.03.25 17:45, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Mar 09, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
My "build me a Debian image" script has been doing that for two years now,
simply by moving /var/lib/dpkg to /usr/state/dpkg and bind-mounting it back
onto /var/lib/dpkg (symlinking won't work).
How so? My /var/lib/dpkg
On 06/03/2025 04:54, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Finally, a question -- as you don't seem to document the issues you have
with long term packages in their ITP bug, where *do* you document them?
There is no built-in issue tracking in `dak`. The "notes" function is
only available while the package i
On Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 05:31:02PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
My hope is that the sentiments
towards fully free installer images will change in the Debian project
and that they eventually may be official again.
I don't see sentiments towards fully free isntaller images. There is
just nobody
On Sun, 09 Mar 2025 17:17:52 +0100, Simon Josefsson
wrote:
>Right, in the sense that they embed non-free software in the hardware.
>
>None of those machines require them to be loaded by me as a user for
>them to be useful to me.
>
>This distinction is important to me.
I find the version where I c
Am Sonntag, dem 09.03.2025 um 22:13 +0100 schrieb Philip Hands:
> Stephan Verbücheln (against? at least against mixed HTML)
- against mixed HTML
- against unwrapped lines without a defined method/encoding
- okay with format=flowed
Disclaimer: Not a Debian developer.
Regards
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On 09/03/2025 21:13, Philip Hands wrote:
(... some "vote" counting)
Thanks for the counting effort, Philip.
Though if you must put people into sides/camps,
put me in both/either
A. camp "one sentence/comma per line"
B. camp "why can't we just make the software able enough,
that they can reformat
Hi Jonas,
* Jonas Smedegaard [2025-03-10 12:20]:
It should work, but perhaps what you are experiencing is that by
default
pandoc expects a blank line between changes of blockquote level:
https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#extension-blank_before_blockquote
Maybe this works: pandoc -f markdown-blan
Hi Charles,
Le 2025-03-10 01:32, Charles Plessy a écrit :
[text/markdown instead of text/plain]
That's IMO something much more interesting than text/html that should be
implemented in MUAs (falling back to displaying it as text/plain
eventually) but for now it doesn't display at all in som
Luke Faraone writes:
> The rationale given when I joined as ftpassistant (c. 2012) for not
> publicising decisions e.g. in the ITP was to avoid publishing
> potentially harshly-worded and embarassing reviews to maintainers in
> public (like pointing out that you missed a fairly obvious license
Hi,
On Mon, 2025-03-10 at 13:27 +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> On 3/9/25 9:20 PM, Ansgar 🙀 wrote:
> > What is the point of this then?
>
> If I understood the argument of FSF correctly, the point is, having the
> same freedom as the hardware manufacturer to modify or not modify.In
> case of hardw
Hi Charles,
* Charles Plessy [2025-03-10 09:32]:
Le Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 10:13:51PM +0100, Philip Hands a écrit : > >
Having skimmed through the 106 mails I currently see in this thread, >
this is the way I’d summarise people’s preferences (if anyone sees
that > I’ve mis-characterised their vie
Quoting Timo Röhling (2025-03-10 11:19:01)
> Hi Charles,
>
> * Charles Plessy [2025-03-10 09:32]:
> >Le Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 10:13:51PM +0100, Philip Hands a écrit : > >
> >Having skimmed through the 106 mails I currently see in this thread, >
> >this is the way I’d summarise people’s preferences
Le 10 mars 2025 11:56:28 GMT+01:00, Simon Josefsson a
écrit :
>https://www.gnu.org/distros/optionally-free-not-enough.html
>
>https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/install-fest-devil.html
… of course … that's where the core of the disagreement lies !
We're not a religion, we're just building a dis
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 11:56:28 +0100, Simon Josefsson
wrote:
>Marc Haber writes:
>> I still haven't heard arguments why people refuse to use an installer
>> that comes with non-free firmware, asks whether this firmware should
>> be used, and if answered "no", none of this non-free firmware ends up
Luke Faraone writes:
> The rationale given when I joined as ftpassistant (c. 2012) for not
> publicising decisions e.g. in the ITP was to avoid publishing
> potentially harshly-worded and embarassing reviews to maintainers in
> public (like pointing out that you missed a fairly obvious license
>
Hi,
On 3/10/25 20:41, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
We're not obligated to validate their questionable choices in buying
hardware that ships with non-free firmware, or apologize for the bad
experience they have when upstream changes something they don't like.
It is not our duty as volunteers to
Hi Raphael,
On 10/03/2025 10:36, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
(tracker.debian.org maintainer here)
Thanks for maintaining the service ;)
Hi,
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025, Blair Noctis wrote:
So if the "staff" agrees,
we can make @p.d.o addresses forward also to Uploaders,
thus with @p.d.o address as Main
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 09:33:55PM +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
We've reached the point where people are shitting on nV for the
quality of their drivers, and a kernel that has closed-source drivers
loaded is "tainted", and the last release in which we shipped
ndiswrapper was buster.
That happe
On 2025-03-10 09:32:59 +0900 (+0900), Charles Plessy wrote:
[...]
I am also exploring the use of `text/markdown` as the default
content type for my emails.
My groff/troff reply to your earlier suggestion of this was only
somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Markdown isn't a singular
clearly-specified sy
Hi Phil,
* Philip Hands [2025-03-09 22:13]:
Of the 13 F=F folk, several also lean against the proposal to some
extent.
Just for the record, you may count me amongst them, too.
I'm sympathetic to the soft line wrap cause, but one line paragraphs in
text/plain is not a good solution IMHO.
Ch
Sean Whitton writes:
> Hello Charles,
>
> Thanks. Please put prominent links to these three places:
>
> - Policy 2.3 -- this covers 90% of my NEW rejects
>
> Based on my experience processing NEW, a lot of DDs don't seem to
> really have an understanding of the requirements explained here.
>
(tracker.debian.org maintainer here)
Hi,
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025, Blair Noctis wrote:
> So if the "staff" agrees,
> we can make @p.d.o addresses forward also to Uploaders,
> thus with @p.d.o address as Maintainer,
> also forwarding bug reports to Uploaders,
> achieving the goal.
I don't really agree
Marc Haber writes:
> I still haven't heard arguments why people refuse to use an installer
> that comes with non-free firmware, asks whether this firmware should
> be used, and if answered "no", none of this non-free firmware ends up
> in the installed system. The resulting system is free regardl
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