Re: nmudiff enhancements

2014-07-17 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, On 07/17/14 03:16, Christian Hofstaedtler wrote: > * Wookey [140716 23:48]: > >> I do think there is plenty more room for soialising more NMUing. There >> are piles of bugs in the archive that mostly just need uploading, and >> many packages with a backlog of minor bugs, or packaging t

Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-17 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Harald Dunkel > On 07/16/14 23:22, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > So we are proposing the following scheme: > > > > a/ Upload a new "init" package. This is a new, essential package that > > will replace sysvinit as the package that ensures your system has an > > init system. We want to build this

Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-17 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
Hi Emmanuel, >Ok, but could you say it nicely please? I just came across this info and >brought it on the list for discussion because it'll impact us at some >point. So don't shoot the messenger. >Changing the source/target is often a trivial modification. I'm not >asking for actively updating al

Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-17 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 07/16/14 17:56, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > To try to kill your frustration, I have sponsored the upload of your fix > to the delayed/10 queue. If everything goes well, then in 15 days, > network-manager-strongswan will be back in Jessie. > Thanx very much for your help Regards Harri -- To

Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-17 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 07/16/14 17:56, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > BTW, it feels weird that the package build-depends on debhelper when it > really is using CDBS. The debian/copyright is also quite wrong, as it > doesn't include the copyright notice for the GPL v2 (and I believe > that's mandatory, right?). Not comment

Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
2014-07-16 22:32 GMT+02:00 Miguel Landaeta : > It's totally normal to have technical disagreements, especially on a > non-trivial packages like that one. What I really dislike is to > see epithets like "bullshit" or "own agenda" in a technical > discussion. > +1 -- Arnaud Vandyck http://about.m

/usr/lib to /lib symlinks (absolute?)

2014-07-17 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, As I read in debian policy: 10.5 Symbolic links In general, symbolic links within a top-level directory should be relative, and symbolic links pointing from one top-level directory to or into another should be absolute. (A top-level directory is a sub-directory of the root directory /.)

Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Guillem Jover wrote: >Exactly. I don't have any intention to change the current dpkg-source >default behavior in that regard. ACK. But people who touch packages without d/s/format can just write "1.0\n" into it, to retain existing behaviour without the warning. Still, changing the default is bad

Bug#755070: ITP: golang-mreiferson-httpclient -- a Go HTTP client with timeouts

2014-07-17 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jelmer Vernooij * Package name: golang-mreiferson-httpclient Version : 0.0 Upstream Author : Matt Reiferson * URL : https://github.com/mreiferson/go-httpclient * License : MIT Programming Lang: Go Description : a

Bug#755072: ITP: iosnoop -- trace disk I/O with details including latency

2014-07-17 Thread Sebastien Delafond
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastien Delafond * Package name: iosnoop Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Copyright (c) 2014 Brendan Gregg * URL : https://github.com/brendangregg/perf-tools/blob/master/iosnoop * License : GPL Programming Lang: bas

Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Russ Allbery wrote: >Steven Chamberlain writes: >> * first-forked process does not use the PRNG yet, but forks again Actually, it does: it calls RAND_poll(), which libressl made into a nop. >control. There has been some talk of implementing PID randomization >precisely to make this attack har

Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ben Hutchings wrote: >Since Linux 2.6.29, you get 128 random bits at each execve(), which you >can access like this: getauxval() is only in (e)glibc, not in dietlibc or klibc, though. Also, glibc already uses all 128 bits in some other place. bye, //mirabilos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debia

Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> What are the reasons behind are you going for required and not standard? > >A Priority: required package (init) isn't allowed to depend on something >with Priority: standard per policy. Among even minbase, there are a *lot* of violations of this particular rule of Policy

Override disparity checks (Was: Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system)

2014-07-17 Thread Luca Falavigna
Hi! 2014-07-17 15:27 GMT+02:00 Thorsten Glaser : >>A Priority: required package (init) isn't allowed to depend on something >>with Priority: standard per policy. > > Among even minbase, there are a *lot* of violations of this > particular rule of Policy. There is also nothing in place > checking t

Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-17 Thread Christian Hofstaedtler
* Vincent Lefevre [140717 04:02]: > On 2014-07-17 03:21:28 +0200, Christian Hofstaedtler wrote: > > * Arno Töll [140713 13:25]: > > > * Ignore the problem, and refer to the manpage of aptitude without > > > proper fix etc. which clearly says "THIS OPTION CAN CAUSE DATA LOSS! DO > > > NOT USE IT U

Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-17 Thread Arno Töll
On 17.07.2014 15:38, Christian Hofstaedtler wrote: > My understanding was that the new apache binaries would install new > config files, and it would then work? (With the correct > replaces/breaks/...) Yes. However, Apache has a notable number of configuration files (not conffiles), namely symlink

Re: Override disparity checks (Was: Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system)

2014-07-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Luca Falavigna wrote: >> Among even minbase, there are a *lot* of violations of this >> particular rule of Policy. There is also nothing in place >> checking them. > >Actually, there are two tools to check this: > * [4]https://ftp-master.debian.org/override-disparity.gz Ah, that's new... before

Re: Override disparity checks (Was: Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system)

2014-07-17 Thread Luca Falavigna
2014-07-17 16:31 GMT+02:00 Thorsten Glaser : >> * https://ftp-master.debian.org/override-disparity.gz > > This is not shown in the PTS, though. If we could get it to show > up there, and maybe DDPO, that could help. Indeed, it's in yaml format, so I guess it should be easy to integrate it in PTS

Re: Override disparity checks

2014-07-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Luca Falavigna wrote: >IMO, these should be handled on a case-by-case basis. Agreed. >Looking more at it, it seems there are a lot of packages requiring >dependencies which are extra: There is a bug in the file, IMHO, though: mediawiki: dependency: php5-mysqlnd: extra The situation is:

Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 13:11 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > >Since Linux 2.6.29, you get 128 random bits at each execve(), which you > >can access like this: > > getauxval() is only in (e)glibc, not in dietlibc or klibc, though. True, and it was only added in glibc 2.16.

Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-17 Thread Joey Hess
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > On kfreebsd, init would then depend on an optional package as we don't > > support arch-specific priorities. That is (IIRC) a policy violation, but > > do any practical problems arise from this? > > It would be useful to have a comment from one of the debootstrap > maint

Re: Override disparity checks (Was: Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system)

2014-07-17 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 04:53:26PM +0200, Luca Falavigna wrote: > Looking at the policy again, I think extra is (mis)used quite too > often. Part of the problem could be that dh_make at least at one point (maybe still does) put "extra" as defalt Priority in its templates and it might've gotten cop

Re: Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-17 Thread Bálint Réczey
2014-07-17 2:20 GMT+02:00 brian m. carlson : > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:43:17PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: >> Some sites (I mean, deployments) like to use a caching proxy, especially >> if many machines use the same resource, and/or bandwidth is scarce. Or >> even just one machine accessin

Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 17 iul 14, 03:17:35, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2014-07-16 14:28:00 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:36:32AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > I do that too. I haven't seen any official documentation saying that > > > this is a bad thing to do. > > > > apti

Unsafe --purge-unused at dist-upgrade (Was: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell)

2014-07-17 Thread Ondřej Surý
Could we please decouple the --purge-unused thread with the "Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell" thread? It's getting confusing and I am only interested about Apache2 and not about aptitude. Thanks, O. On Thu, Jul 17, 2014, at 23:32, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 17 iul 14, 03:17:35, Vincent

Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-17 Thread Arno Töll
Hi, On 14.07.2014 14:05, Josselin Mouette wrote: > How about creating a new apache2-config package just to move these > configuration files? for the record: from an informal request the Release Team does not seem to be comfortable with anything like that. Therefore, I suspect if anything, I nee

Bug#755122: ITP: abduco -- abduco provides session management, allowing programs to be run independently from their controlling terminals

2014-07-17 Thread Evan Hanson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Evan Hanson * Package name: abduco Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Marc Andre Tanner * URL : http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/abduco/ * License : ISC Programming Lang: C Description : abduco provides session ma

Bug#755128: ITP: libbusiness-edifact-interchange-perl -- module to parse Edifact messages for book ordering

2014-07-17 Thread Chris Cormack
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Chris Cormack * Package name: libbusiness-edifact-interchange-perl Version : 0.07 Upstream Author : Colin Campbell, * URL : https://metacpan.org/pod/Business::Edifact::Interchange * License : (GPL, Artistic) Programmin

Bug#755129: ITP: libany-uri-escape-perl -- Load URI::Escape::XS preferentially over URI::Escape

2014-07-17 Thread Robin Sheat
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Robin Sheat * Package name: libany-uri-escape-perl Version : 0.01 Upstream Author : Fred Moyer * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Any-URI-Escape * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lang: Perl Description

Work-needing packages report for Jul 18, 2014

2014-07-17 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 583 (new: 1) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 133 (new: 1) Total number of packages request

Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/17/2014 02:29 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Thomas Goirand > >> On 07/15/2014 09:42 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: >>> I am not a big fan of the 3.0 (quilt) format because it imposes a patch >>> system. >>> In particular, this format does not make much sense when managing the source >>> packa

Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/17/2014 06:40 PM, Harald Dunkel wrote: > On 07/16/14 17:56, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> >> BTW, it feels weird that the package build-depends on debhelper when it >> really is using CDBS. The debian/copyright is also quite wrong, as it >> doesn't include the copyright notice for the GPL v2 (and

Re: NMUing generally

2014-07-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/17/2014 05:47 AM, Wookey wrote: > Mostly. I've done a pile recently (40+) (largely autoconf-update bugs) > and only had one instance of outright hostility It is my experience as well that, almost everyone is nice and accept NMU, but there's always a few instances of moronic reactions. I try

Bug#755135: ITP: python-keystonemiddleware -- Middleware for OpenStack Identity (Keystone)

2014-07-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-keystonemiddleware Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : OpenStack Development Mailing List * URL : https://github.com/openstack/keystonemiddleware * License : Apache-2.0 Programming

Where to upload official OpenStack Debian images?

2014-07-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, I've been maintaining "official" OpenStack Debian images within the HP cloud for about 6 months now. Though I've been requested a few times already where these could be downloaded. The thing is, due to the very nature of OpenStack, which is completely free software, it doesn't make much sense

Re: Override disparity checks (Was: Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system)

2014-07-17 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 09:10:24PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > > Looking at the policy again, I think extra is (mis)used quite too > > often. > > Part of the problem could be that dh_make at least at one point (maybe > still does) put "extra" as defalt Priority in its templates and it > might've