Paul Wise wrote...
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Christoph Biedl wrote:
>
> > In 5.18, upstream decided to discourage usage of smart matches and
> > given..when after these have existed since 5.10 (or: more than six
> > years) by marking them as experimental, and did this in a very harsh
> >
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:06:10AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Thorsten Glaser writes:
• no /etc/init.d/$foo (to tabcomplete, no less!) any more
I've been telling people to stop using this for years. You should stop
Doesn’t matter in mixed environments. Suse SLES11 has the service command
a
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Hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 14.05.2014, 11:39 +0200 schrieb Johannes Schauer:
> - shell scripts connecting the tools for meaningful operations
> - analyzing cross bootstrap phase
> - analyzing native bootstrap phase
> - create a transition order
cool. Can this also be used in a relative
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:39:41PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 14.05.2014, 11:39 +0200 schrieb Johannes Schauer:
> > - shell scripts connecting the tools for meaningful operations
> > - analyzing cross bootstrap phase
> > - analyzing native bootstrap phase
> >
Hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 14.05.2014, 14:15 +0300 schrieb Niko Tyni:
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:39:41PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 14.05.2014, 11:39 +0200 schrieb Johannes Schauer:
> > > - shell scripts connecting the tools for meaningful operations
> > > - analyzing cr
Steve McIntyre writes ("Re: Guile language support in make"):
> Russ Allbery wrote:
> >I think building two separate binaries makes more sense than adding Guile
> >support by default for all the reasons you stated. We do similar things
> >with Emacs, which has a -nox version to avoid pulling in to
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: Guile language support in make"):
> Well, I was thinking of build profiles for that.
(Lesson for me: read the whole thread first.)
> I know I can't do that until Jess is released and dpkg 1.17.2 is
> in stable.
Is it acceptable to put off providing
On Wed, 2014-05-14 at 13:20:32 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> (It's a shame that the dpkg developers didn't adopt my suggestion of
> [ ] for build-profiles, because that would have been
> backward-compatible with old tools.)
One of the reasons [0] it was not adopted was precisely because it is
not ba
Hi,
Quoting Joachim Breitner (2014-05-14 12:39:41)
> cool. Can this also be used in a relative ad-hoc manner to replace the
> simple script at
> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-haskell/tools.git;a=blob;f=order-sources.pl
> which does
>
> Usage: $0 ...
>
> Each a
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 04:31:28PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2014, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>
> > My opinion is that many users are migrating away from Debian because we
> > are unable to make decisions on important technical topics and leave
> > them with 3 different setups, n
Hi,
Quoting Niko Tyni (2014-05-14 13:15:59)
> Heh. FWIW we've been using
> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-perl/scripts.git;a=blob;f=perl-5.10-transition/find-rebuild-order
>
> for transition ordering when preparing Perl transitions. That one uses
> the system apt cache. I wonder if the P
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 01:16:05PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
>Steve McIntyre writes ("Re: Guile language support in make"):
>> Russ Allbery wrote:
>> >I think building two separate binaries makes more sense than adding Guile
>> >support by default for all the reasons you stated. We do similar thin
On 8 May 2014 19:16, Frank Bauer wrote:
> Unfortunately, the userspace tools (nftables) are still missing even in
> sid/experimental.
Just to let you know: nftables is now on Debian [0].
Comments are welcome :)
[0] http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nftables.html
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Hello List,
for one of the Debian package that I maintained, bibtool to name it, it appears
that
the added option -pie (aka --pic-executable) caused some issue: #747519
While the upstream source is not subject to the reported bug, adding the
hardening
options renders the upstream source subject
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 02:48:12PM +, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:00:55AM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> > On 29/04/14 23:22, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> > If there is any more you can tell me about this DNS zone, it would be
> > nice to document it better at https://wiki
Hi,
Russ Allbery:
> > How difficult would it be, for the sake of compatibility if nothing
> > else, to teach su not to create a new PAM session when it doesn't
> > already run within one?
>
> You don't want to do that in general since that defeats the primary
> purpose of su: creating a new sessi
Hi,
Thorsten Glaser:
> • no /etc/init.d/$foo (to tabcomplete, no less!) any more
>
Why you think these are going away? They're not, not any time soon;
and you can still use them when you're running systemd (assuming that you
include the LSB functions, like init.d/skeleton has been advising you fo
Hi,
Thorsten Glaser:
> OK. But who says this is to stay? The systemd developers are
> hostile towards legacy stuff in a really intricate way. Take
> not jornal here but something else as example: they support
> running both ntpd and their own thing, to sweeten the deal
> now, but plan on dropping
Hi,
Thorsten Glaser:
> There’s not really a line between them, you know. (But it was
> nice to have a published list of those people who maybe could
> accidentally be hit by a tactical small-bus…)
>
I hereby apologize to the list at large for replying to your earlier emails.
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On Wed, May 14 2014, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> I know I can't do that until Jess is released and dpkg 1.17.2 is
>> in stable.
>
> Is it acceptable to put off providing a guile-enabled make.deb until
> jessie+1 ?
Talking to various people I was convinced I was overthinking
this, an
* Matthias Urlichs , 2014-05-14, 17:30:
In fact, rescuing a system becomes way easier even without learning any
magic tools. For example, when bootup breaks you get dropped into a
rescue shell, same as before. The difference with systemd is that as
soon as you manage to mount that recalcitrant
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On 05/14/2014 12:07 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Matthias Urlichs , 2014-05-14, 17:30:
>
>> In fact, rescuing a system becomes way easier even without learning
>> any magic tools. For example, when bootup breaks you get dropped
>> into a rescue shell,
Matthias Urlichs writes:
> I see two cases here.
> * I'm a logged-in user and use su to run … whatever.
> In this case, whether it creates a new session or not doesn't matter
> (because there already is one), so one more cannot add more blockage to
> hibernation et al. than there already i
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:33:58AM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote:
> Second, there's a regression in the handling of in-memory file handle.
> Broke my code when giving it a first try on jessie. And I am still
> *very* upset why #747363 should be anything below RC.
I find arguments about bug severit
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 04:12:09PM +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> for one of the Debian package that I maintained, bibtool to name it, it
> appears that
> the added option -pie (aka --pic-executable) caused some issue: #747519
>
> While the upstream source is not subject to the re
Am 14.05.2014 18:30, schrieb The Wanderer:
> On 05/14/2014 12:07 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
>
>> * Matthias Urlichs , 2014-05-14, 17:30:
>
>>> In fact, rescuing a system becomes way easier even without learning
>>> any magic tools. For example, when bootup breaks you get dropped
>>> into a rescue shel
Don Armstrong writes:
> The right solution for these (and other bugs which happen when source
> packages are renamed) is for the bugs to follow the new source package
> name.
>
> Eventually this is the way it will work in the BTS, but doing so
> requires me to complete the postgresql migration wo
Rob Browning writes:
> I agree (as far as emacsXY and guile-X.Y are concerned). Anyone should
> feel free to reassign them to emacs24 (or guile-2.0 respectively).
>
> Otherwise, I'll plan to do it.
And I hope it goes without saying, but I'm always happy to have help
dealing with the bugs -- eve
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Hello Andrey,
thanks for your reply.
On 14/05/14 19:51, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 04:12:09PM +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
>> Hello List,
>>
>> for one of the Debian package that I maintained, bibtool to name
>> it, it appear
On 14/05/14 15:25, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> In consultation with the mirror team, I will be dropping the mirror.debian.net
> zone, today.
Oh, that's unfortunate. And odd to remove the service on such short
notice, unless I'm really the only person using it.
It may have been preferable to replace
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
wrote:
>
> Just to let you know: nftables is now on Debian [0].
Great news!
Now I will let this and the fixed kernel 3.14 migrate to jessie and
start playing...
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On Tue, 13 May 2014 20:08:18 +0100, "Adam D. Barratt"
wrote:
>adam@wheezy:~$ service
|[6/505]mh@swivel:~/transfer$ service
|.directorykarte4.png
|fotovoltaik.png lageplan.png
|karte1.pngpdns-backend-mysql_3.1-4.log
|karte2.png
Hi,
On Wednesday 14 May 2014 19:39:52 Steven Chamberlain wrote:
[...]
> Perhaps even http.debian.net, if Raphael wouldn't mind setting up the
> (many) necessary wildcard virtual host to make it work.
I don't think there are many users of $cc.$arch.mirror.debian.net, but if
anyone fancies adding
On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:28:27 +0200, Vincent Bernat
wrote:
> ? 13 mai 2014 15:01 +0200, Marc Haber :
>>>Thank you so much for volunteering to contribute to GNOME packaging and
>>>to make it work on configurations nobody will actually ever use.
>>>
>>>We are eagerly waiting for your patches.
>>
>>
On 14/05/14 22:24, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> I don't think there are many users of $cc.$arch.mirror.debian.net, [...]
I don't think anyone can really know this currently?
> but if
> anyone fancies adding the DNS entries, http.d.n should now be accepting
> anything with *.mirror.debian.net, and
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:39:39PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> On 14/05/14 22:24, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> > I don't think there are many users of $cc.$arch.mirror.debian.net, [...]
>
> I don't think anyone can really know this currently?
I looked at the logs on ns1.debian.org through ns4
On 14/05/14 23:00, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> I looked at the logs on ns1.debian.org through ns4.debian.org for the last
> week. Not a single request that wasn't for SOA or RRSIG or DNSKEY, all from
> debian machines.
>
> Some may have gone to easydns' name servers, I suppose, but the debian
> namese
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:32:07PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> On 14/05/14 23:00, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> > I looked at the logs on ns1.debian.org through ns4.debian.org for the last
> > week. Not a single request that wasn't for SOA or RRSIG or DNSKEY, all from
> > debian machines.
> >
> >
On 13/05/14 20:30, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> In data martedì 13 maggio 2014 19:42:32, David Goodenough ha scritto:
>> > service foo works across Linux distributions, with or without
>> > systemd, and does the right thing.
>>
>> The big shame with service is that tab completion does not work proper
On 14/05/14 23:34, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
>> In the last week at least 13 of my own servers/VMs at two sites (each
>> site has a caching DNS resolver), my desktop and also my laptop from
>> offsite have been querying this zone, every day. I debootstrapped a new
>> chroot using this zone only two da
Roger Lynn writes:
> On 13/05/14 20:30, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
>> In data martedì 13 maggio 2014 19:42:32, David Goodenough ha scritto:
service foo works across Linux distributions, with or without
systemd, and does the right thing.
>>> The big shame with service is that tab completio
+++ Manoj Srivastava [2014-05-10 23:00 -0700]:
>
> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>
> On Sun, May 11 2014, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
> > Thinking about the poor people trying to bootstrap things, I'm tempted
> > to suggest doing this as two separate source packages. Make is *so*
> > far down the
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Wookey wrote:
> I'm not quite sure who actually controls these things
That would be the stable release team, the processes for uploads to
stable are documented here:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#upload-stable
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The debian-port arm64 rebootstrap is progressing nicely, and we just
passed 4200 source packages built, with another few hundred
pending. There are now 2 buildds running.
In the course of that 344 have failed to build, (see
http://buildd.debian-ports.org/status/architecture.php?a=arm64&suite=sid
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Roger Lynn writes:
>> On 13/05/14 20:30, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
>>> In data martedì 13 maggio 2014 19:42:32, David Goodenough ha scritto:
>
> service foo works across Linux distributions, with or without
> systemd, and does the right
Jordan Metzmeier writes:
> It's not loaded from /etc/profile by default (which would probably
> throw errors with other shells since all login shells source
> /etc/profile).
It is for me, via:
if [ -d /etc/profile.d ]; then
for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do
if [ -r $i ]; then
. $i
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